No I mean what's wrong with your apparent delight upon finding out that someone you disagree with contracted this?
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No I mean what's wrong with your apparent delight upon finding out that someone you disagree with contracted this?
xrnzaaas
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Now he'll have a chance to participate in the herd immunity initiative.BBC News - Coronavirus: Prime Minister Boris Johnson tests positive
Coronavirus: Prime Minister Boris Johnson tests positive
The health secretary also has the virus, England's chief medical officer has symptoms, and the number of UK deaths jumps to 759.www.bbc.co.uk
Well shit
Hold up.
You accused me of taking figures from, and I will quote you here so there is no misunderstanding, "some conservative twitter clown".
So are you going to take it back or are you just going to try and power through?
TriSuit666
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Three or four when you consider there is also a running outbreak of Bird Flu too.
nush
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Cabin fever no doubt.
DunDunDunpachi
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I'd be citing a quarter of this thread lol
"as bad as Spanish flu"
"people dropping like flies"
"worst pandemic of our modern age"
etc.
You misunderstand my intentions: I hope people snap out of their stupor and proceed to live a more fulfilling life based on truth. I'm not seeking meaningless "haha gotcha" points.
Current measurements are inaccurate. We aren't testing enough people to get an accurate read on total infected, and our tests aren't exactly reliable. The issue of false positives and false negatives cannot be understated. It's really that simple. Using inaccurate numbers as the foundation for fearmongering is hysteria. I refuse to play the corporate media's game.
I wager the number of infected is already in the tens of millions worldwide. Thankfully we are catching the worst cases and sending them to hospitals.
I'm not suggesting people act flippantly, and there appears to be no threat of people being dragged from their homes and forced to interact with society. By all means, isolate and hole up. I'm doing the same because my employer offers work from home.
Greta howdareyou.gif essentially.Yup. I've basically been using that site almost exclusively when looking into this.
Yet when I talk about one of the figures they include in their data suddenly I'm getting my info from "conservatives on twitter" because people don't want to discuss that stat.
betrayal openly admits that they think this is the biggest global crisis in decades but gets put on blast for pointing out that the death toll will not be as high as the panic merchants are predicting.
That's what it basically comes down to.
The alarming part is the strain we're putting on medical services in the midst of the panic. Thankfully many businesses and orgs are doing the smart thing by shifting production lines to provide supplies (like ventilators and freshly-built medical facilities) to actually address the perceived threat instead of hunkering down and screaming at anyone who doesn't parrot the Official Reports™
Johns Hopkins surgeon, advisor to Obama and Trump.
-Mortality rate probably slightly below 1% based on Diamond Princess outcomes
-About half of the people who can get on a ventilator will survive
-Estimates 700k ventilators will be needed at peak of the outbreak in US. US has 100k-130k ventilators
-Peak is 3-4 weeks away
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Mihos
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I have seen your perks, they suck. And saying they suck is bannable, so probably have never been exposed to that fact. Unless you call fun exploring the identity politics in a sudoku game.
Even your screen name is depressing.
llien
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No, I assumed you got the idiotic "see, we are better than Germany, smaller number of death per million of population" idea from a conservative clown on twitter.
I've never disputed figures.
Statistics, inherently, is open to idiotic interpretations.
VertigoOA
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This is how our "friends" at Resetera are reacting to the news.
Unfortunately the trannies at Era have compromised immune systems... ya know... cuz HIV... and diabetes.
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hariseldon
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This is how our "friends" at Resetera are reacting to the news.
The tolerant left. Honestly, for me, I'm completely done with them.
Erm. The US has a higher number of death per million.
I stated that in my post.
My point was that a single death per million seems to be the difference between everyone freaking out and everyone saying things are going relatively OK.
My point was that the number of confirmed cases is a poor metric for making any kind of judgement here.
Would be easier for you to just apologize and move on, I think.
As I also said before you need to calm down and not fly off the handle every time you see a viewpoint that doesn't completely align with yours.
nush
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This is how our "friends" at Resetera are reacting to the news.
Shugga the cunt is on a roll.
Yes. The biggest challenge seems to be that healthcare services are not equipped to deal with a once a century outbreak on top of everything else that's going on.
Perhaps understandably as it seems like it would be impossible to always be on "high alert" for something that may only happen every few decades.
I can imagine there would be tons of complaining if Trump had spent the last 4 years stockpiling 100s of thousands of ventilators just incase some killer virus emerges from China. Scaremongering, conspiracy theory, racist etc.
Many people did warn that something like this could happen and that most of the world would be unprepared.
They were right.
crowbrow
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They are mostly the same people that are warning us about the environment. And they are right too. And many many people are laughing at them... at least now. It's always the same shit, people laugh or attack the ones that know what the hell they're talking about and then when shit hits the fan those same people are whining about no one doing anything. Humanity is its own worst enemy.
womfalcs3
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Two thirds of the reported COVID19 cases are concentrated in just 5 countries: US, China, Italy, Spain, and Germany.
coronavirus.jhu.edu
COVID-19 Map - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)
coronavirus.jhu.edu
GamingKaiju
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Same here. Glad I distanced myself from those assholes. You only have to look in this thread and see those leftists glee with excitement at him being positive.
Hope he gets well soon not a great time for changing leaders.
betrayal
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These numbers are very likely. For the USA, 3-4 weeks are quite reasonable until we see peaking numbers. If you take into account the size and many differently affected regions, some areas will already decrease with their numbers, while others will still increase.
It seems that he has already taken the age into account when talking about the death rate, because the average age of the sick on the Diamond Princess was 62 with a CFR of ~1,5%. If old people are especially protected and isolated, the death rate can drop to below 0.5%, maybe even to 0.1%, for the rest of the people.
anthraticus
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Maybe. It's probably human nature to some extent and maybe it can't be changed.
Like we are wired to live mostly in the "now" and so it's natural to think "we'll cross that bridge when we come to it".
We're all gonna die someday.
Kadayi
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Some people like me? Maybe read my posts in future before showing your ass Flu Bro. The only stuff I've been posting is the daily UK figures. You on the other hand, have been acting like a jumped-up cunt asking anyone and everyone to 'Source', whilst at the same time providing nothing of your own, save derisive scepticism. Looking at the overall data the German numbers do seem incongruous compared to the rest. We're ultimately talking about big numbers, so the idea that somehow collectively Germany as a nation is so markedly different naturally raises questions as to how they are perhaps measuring these things versus everyone else.
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Jooxed
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I am still surprised the DMV area is as low as it is being so close to NYC and in between Dulles and Reagan. Our highest county being Fairfax county currently. DC was spraying the streets last night.
betrayal
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I don't even know where to start disproving you. It's just too much, so I'll save myself the time and don't even start.
Scopa
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How does it work there anyway? If you present yourself to a hospital with severe coronavirus symptoms, do they immediately start taking care of you or do they wait for your insurance to clear first?
McHuj
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An emergency room will never turn people away even if they don't have insurance
ricardo_sousa11
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I swear some people in this thread will argue the earth is flat.
I hope you're right, and everyone else is wrong, because if this thing goes the way its going, there wont be USA by the end of it. This is a war you will lose because of the american arrogance, but then again, its a much needed reality check. #savetheeconomy
I hope you're right, and everyone else is wrong, because if this thing goes the way its going, there wont be USA by the end of it. This is a war you will lose because of the american arrogance, but then again, its a much needed reality check. #savetheeconomy
Jooxed
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They usually don't even ask for your insurance until later after you have been seen. At least in my experience, they usually just want to get you in and treated.
And if you don't have insurance they can get you setup on whatever indigent or state insurance there is right there.
ricardo_sousa11
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They will treat you, then you will have a huge debt to pay afterwards, but they will treat you. In this case, theres a few bills floating around the internet already, the treatment cost is between 20-35k$.
However, when the hospitals get overloaded, and you have someone with an insurance and someonee without an insurance fighting for a ventilator, I highly doubt they will give it to the person without.
Smaller than Atom
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What a childish thing to say. You're scum dude. I'm sure she's just dying to have a chance with you.
You're fucking scum. How does shit like this get by the mods?
Because this isn't Era and our mods aren't Nazis.
Barnabot
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tImE tO FigHt tHe aMeRican iMpERiALIsm?
tImE tO FigHt tHe aMeRican iMpERiALIsm
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you'll never know the answer Scopa. There's a propagada to be pushed. There's no better time to do that than during a global pandemic.
tImE tO FigHt tHe aMeRican iMpERiALIsm
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you'll never know the answer Scopa. There's a propagada to be pushed. There's no better time to do that than during a global pandemic.
Smaller than Atom
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Who cares if its era. It's still childish, disrespectful and demeaning. Shes trying to save lives. Show some fucking respect.
You're scum too.
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hariseldon
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The downside is that if you don't have insurance, or your insurance finds a way to weasel out of paying, you get stuck with a whacking great bill and likely bankruptcy.
What do you mean by this "there won't be USA by the end of it"?
That the nation will break up into individual countries because of how different areas dealt with this?
You surely don't mean that everyone in the nation will die?
You can't essentially call people flat earthers while at the same time promoting your "there won't even be a USA" crackpot theory at the same time.
MOST of the USA seems to be currently implementing some kind of social distancing procedures right now?
This, in turn, will slow the spread of the virus.
This will not only save lives in the short term but will allow for preparation to deal with future outbreaks and/or peaks that will save lives in the long term.
So where is the "there won't be a USA by the end of it" coming from?
Who are the "some people" you are talking about?
VertigoOA
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Isnt corona treatment pretty much bill free? I have insurance myself but I doubt people are going to be paying for 20-day ICU treatment.
Schattenjäger
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she's pretty sexy for an older women
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hariseldon
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So let me get this right - you're claiming the moral high ground while calling someone scum for complimenting a woman on her appearance. Got it.
Smaller than Atom
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betrayal
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