Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check

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Update on my parents Covid-19:

They said they still haven't recovered. While the pain isn't as bad as before, they say it still hurts when they cough and it makes them slightly dizzy.

Next Monday, they're apparently going to get retested but the expression on their face tells me the virus isn't gone yet.

Technically, my two week quarantine is also over but I haven't actually received a call on what I'm suppose to do. My workplace was suppose to call me but I haven't actually heard from them since last week.

I wont rush it but tommorow I might ask what they want me to do or if I should wait for them. The worst of my flu symptoms are gone but I'm still in a household where two people have the virus and it looks like it's going to be longer than two weeks before it's gone.

I have a colleague at the care facility where I work who's been sick for 2 months. If you're out for 3 or even 4 weeks that will be incredible.

It sounds like things are going your way though - comparatively. Keep us posted.
 
I thought this was worth sharing about the Marik protocol. Dr. Marik is known for his infection protocol, and has release an update with Covid in mind.

The prophylaxis part is interesting as it is just standard supplements.

From document:
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Prophylaxis While there is very limited data (and none specific for COVID-19), the following "cocktail" may have a role in the prevention/mitigation of COVID-19 disease. While there is no high level evidence that this cocktail is effective; it is cheap, safe and widely available.

■ Vitamin C 500 mg BID and Quercetin 250-500 mg BID
■ Zinc 75-100 mg/day (acetate, gluconate or picolinate). Zinc lozenges are preferred. After 1-2 months, reduce the dose to 30-50 mg/day.
■ Melatonin (slow release): Begin with 0.3mg and increase as tolerated to 1-2 mg at night
■ Vitamin D3 1000-4000 u/day (optimal dose unknown).
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Protocol Summary:
https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_pub...nal_medicine/Marik-Covid-Protocol-Summary.pdf

More detailed Protocol:
https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_pub...cine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf

Linked from:
https://www.evms.edu/covid-19/medical_information_resources/
 
I have a colleague at the care facility where I work who's been sick for 2 months. If you're out for 3 or even 4 weeks that will be incredible.

It sounds like things are going your way though - comparatively. Keep us posted.
I notice my parents get food delivered to the house. Not sure if it's by a friend or a government worker, but that was the first sign I knew they haven't recovered yet or ready to leave the house.

What's very strange though is that they still look the exact same as they did two weeks ago. There's no visible symptoms, they just cough and explain to me they are in constant pain.

So I wont really know when they're normal until they get another test and it come back negative.
 
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So I'm on dating apps and I match with a shit ton of health care workers ranging from admin, nurse, nurse practioners, and docs. Why I match with them? Yes, I'm awesome

Anyway, they all seem stressed out whether working in the ICU, covid-19 unit, and other locations in hospitals. One girl had two people die last night.

They have good spirits, but the more you talk to them they are stressed af
 
I thought this was worth sharing about the Marik protocol. Dr. Marik is known for his infection protocol, and has release an update with Covid in mind.

The prophylaxis part is interesting as it is just standard supplements.

From document:
===
Prophylaxis While there is very limited data (and none specific for COVID-19), the following "cocktail" may have a role in the prevention/mitigation of COVID-19 disease. While there is no high level evidence that this cocktail is effective; it is cheap, safe and widely available.

■ Vitamin C 500 mg BID and Quercetin 250-500 mg BID
■ Zinc 75-100 mg/day (acetate, gluconate or picolinate). Zinc lozenges are preferred. After 1-2 months, reduce the dose to 30-50 mg/day.
■ Melatonin (slow release): Begin with 0.3mg and increase as tolerated to 1-2 mg at night
■ Vitamin D3 1000-4000 u/day (optimal dose unknown).
===

Protocol Summary:
https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_pub...nal_medicine/Marik-Covid-Protocol-Summary.pdf

More detailed Protocol:
https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_pub...cine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf

Linked from:
https://www.evms.edu/covid-19/medical_information_resources/


South Korean study and its at NIH.

Basically gave HCQ to almost 200 patients and care workers as PEP and no one got the Corona chan.

They cant conclude it worked since there was no control group but in an LTCH where they had contact with someone with the virus thats pretty amazing they didnt have an outbreak.
 
Holy Crap! Something just occurred to me George RR Martin is overweight and elderly... if he gets the Wuhan flu China is dead to me or deader to me than it already is.
 
Side eyeing it and convinent timing. But saying HCQ lowers death rate


Not peer reviewed yet and would like to see if there is any patient bias but strong p value . And medrxiv as far as i know a repubtable site ?
 


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Protesting for less restrictions while not social distancing is a special kind of stupid.
 


Bill was dead on with this

He's acting like we're staying inside forever. Lockdowns aren't to completely stop the virus and make sure nobody gets infected. It's necessary because the virus is so infectious that the healthcare system can easily be overwhelmed if not slowed down. I'm fine with a looser lockdown, but this entire story about germs always being everywhere doesn't really have much to do with anything.
 
He's acting like we're staying inside forever. Lockdowns aren't to completely stop the virus and make sure nobody gets infected. It's necessary because the virus is so infectious that the healthcare system can easily be overwhelmed if not slowed down. I'm fine with a looser lockdown, but this entire story about germs always being everywhere doesn't really have much to do with anything.

Not overwhelming hospitals was the original excuse, but in CA the hospitals are empty and laying off the staff yet Newsom is keeping the lockdown going indefinitely.
 
So apparently there is a leaked 15 page five eyes document that contends the virus almost certainly leaked from the lab. Although there is some disagreement between countries. Australia is resisting but we have a vested interest due to our huge trade with china and and we even funded research at the lab. I'm really concerned western countries will sweep this under the rug and go with the wet market story because it's more politically convenient.

I have not been able to find a copy of the document yet,. Very keen to read it.
 

Right, it would have skyrocketed without lockdowns. After this year and if we here in The Netherlands we could be looking at Spanish Flu numbers and this is with our lock down in place. 40K.

Imagine without ...

Now imagine 3rd world countries...

Come on people , nobody likes to tank their economy.
 
Right, it would have skyrocketed without lockdowns. After this year and if we here in The Netherlands we could be looking at Spanish Flu numbers and this is with our lock down in place. 40K.

Imagine without ...

Now imagine 3rd world countries...

Come on people , nobody likes to tank their economy.

The point is the CDC is saying US deaths are at 37,000 while the media is blasting a 65,000 number.
 
The point is the CDC is saying US deaths are at 37,000 while the media is blasting a 65,000 number.
Number are manipulated everywhere ... it's bad , so what? NY is a total mess.

I bet for the us it's now closer to 80k with all the retirement homes and what not ..

It's all for not creating a panic , but basically 2020 and 2021 are down the drain.
 
You're right, we should shut the world down indefinitely until Malaria and all forms of Influenza are cured, also.
We have a medicine for those and are widely understood and researched deceases ... ?? So what's your point?

What do you think why world governments are reacting like the way they do?

Good thing that most countries listen to scientists.
 
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The point is the CDC is saying US deaths are at 37,000 while the media is blasting a 65,000 number.

So what?

My Cali friends are out N about.

you are a weak dude who complains about everything rather than enjoy life.

continue posting your spam and complain like a bitch
 
He's acting like we're staying inside forever. Lockdowns aren't to completely stop the virus and make sure nobody gets infected. It's necessary because the virus is so infectious that the healthcare system can easily be overwhelmed if not slowed down. I'm fine with a looser lockdown, but this entire story about germs always being everywhere doesn't really have much to do with anything.
He's talking about these OCD fears people have developed during this and he's basically saying that in future you can go back to living a normal life and don't need to be paranoid about all germs because of this incident.
 
So the US yesterday had the second most new infections ever - and they lift restrictions in several states. It's like they want to kill people. From that point (assuming the US numbers will go down now, which they won't) the Italian death numbers went from 8.165 to 28.719 today (and they will end up closer to 40.000 when it's all over). Now translate that to the US numbers. 3.6 x the current deaths in one and a half months. That's upwards of 230.000 US deaths. And that number would be assuming that the US had the same restrictions as Italy for the next one and a half months. That's the best case scenario right now. Holy shit.

Realistically it's going to be much higher. Can't believe there are actually morons demonstrating for less restrictions, they should demonstrate for more restrictions.
 
So the US yesterday had the second most new infections ever - and they lift restrictions in several states. It's like they want to kill people. From that point (assuming the US numbers will go down now, which they won't) the Italian death numbers went from 8.165 to 28.719 today (and they will end up closer to 40.000 when it's all over). Now translate that to the US numbers. 3.6 x the current deaths in one and a half months. That's upwards of 230.000 US deaths. And that number would be assuming that the US had the same restrictions as Italy for the next one and a half months. That's the best case scenario right now. Holy shit.

Realistically it's going to be much higher. Can't believe there are actually morons demonstrating for less restrictions, they should demonstrate for more restrictions.

CDC just listed the US deaths as half of what's being reported. The site breaks it down too. Instead of listing EVERYTHING as COVID.
 


This is aftet georgia just started opening things up. Not promising, though not sure it's a direct correlation since I'm not sure a day or two is long enough to get really sick, I think usually it takes longer. But still, it's concerning nonetheless. They are one of the "guinea pig" states where other states will use as a test study on opening.
 
Number are manipulated everywhere ... it's bad , so what?

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It's all for not creating a panic , but basically 2020 and 2021 are down the drain.

Those revised CDC numbers are a big deal if you're interested in facts and clarity. They might still be scary to you, that's fine, but they do paint a different picture than the one that's been sold to us by the media.

Also, what makes you think 2021 is already "down the drain"? That's a really pessimistic view considering how everything is currently playing out.

Some media outlets suggested Florida was going to be "uber Italy" (source: BI, LA Times), but it's doing relatively well considering all the spring break concerns and the number of older residents.

The more clarity I have about this virus and the way it's being handled the more I move towards the conspiracy theories. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, my dad had a long list of issues that made him a prime target in a long term care facility. He survived the virus just fine, but now he risks falling days behind on his dialysis treatment and phone calls aren't going through to find out why. In other words, mismanagement at the facility/hospital is a bigger risk to his life than this virus.

So the US yesterday had the second most new infections ever - and they lift restrictions in several states.

Applying national numbers to the state and municipal levels is silly. Why keep areas with very few cases closed because NYC is still on fire? Quebec's the hardest hit province in Canada and it's treating its largest city differently from other, less affected areas - as it should be.
 
So the US yesterday had the second most new infections ever - and they lift restrictions in several states. It's like they want to kill people. From that point (assuming the US numbers will go down now, which they won't) the Italian death numbers went from 8.165 to 28.719 today (and they will end up closer to 40.000 when it's all over). Now translate that to the US numbers. 3.6 x the current deaths in one and a half months. That's upwards of 230.000 US deaths. And that number would be assuming that the US had the same restrictions as Italy for the next one and a half months. That's the best case scenario right now. Holy shit.

Realistically it's going to be much higher. Can't believe there are actually morons demonstrating for less restrictions, they should demonstrate for more restrictions.

What are you talking about with that Italian death numbers jump claim?
 


This is aftet georgia just started opening things up. Not promising, though not sure it's a direct correlation since I'm not sure a day or two is long enough to get really sick, I think usually it takes longer. But still, it's concerning nonetheless. They are one of the "guinea pig" states where other states will use as a test study on opening.


There's a 14 day incubation period.
 
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