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[Aquamarine]

It's 21 years preventive detention, he'll never get out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_Norway

Polygon needs to make that clear, because the article implies that he's only sentenced for 21 years (then he's free).

 

[adj_noun]

Hangman's not THAT bad, if a little rudimentary.

 

[pretty done]

I can't believe he tried to say he used Modern Warfare 2 to "train".

Reading Wikipedia articles on military tactics would be better training.

 

[UnrealEck]

The guy sported the Justicar title on his WoW character.
Pure evil I tells ya.

 

[GhostTrick]

Oh... so a want a PS3 ?

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Give that sick bastard Xbox One and TR: Definitive Edition.

 

[Yankee Ruin X]

I sentence him to Flappy Bird!!!!

 

[Cizeta-Moroder]

Inb4 MS sees a chance for good PR and sends him XB1 with Ryse.
I kid

 

[Baconsaurus Rex]

They should get him a WiiU

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Get him a Gamecube.

Why would you reward this man

Give him a Virtual Boy.

 

[fantomena]

No death sentence to him. Will be the easy way out.

All the parties, even the conservatives and liberals in Norway are against death penalty because it's pre-historic.

 

[adj_noun]

I sentence him to Flappy Bird!!!!

Only rich people can afford to be punished by Flappy Bird now.

 

[Krappadizzle]

Inb4 MS sees a chance for good PR and sends him XB1 with Ryse.
I kid

I don't even understand your joke. How were you trying to be witty?

 

[Amir0x]

Not sure how much of a "human rights" activist one can be when he murdered like 70 people (if I recall). I know this story is a bit sensationalized, but it turns my stomach just to hear him making any sort of accusations about 'injustice'. Give him nothing. Sounds like a hotel stay compared to the US prison system.

Is giving someone nothing really the standard we want for prisons? I know the emotional desire in humans is for some level of revenge, but what does it accomplish? The victims are dead. In practice, the family members of the victim wanting a deeper sort of revenge should not be considered in the way we treat prisoners. And such a system only works if we commit to helping even the worst offenders, not just those with crimes that don't send chills up ones spine.

A very illuminating movie called "Longford" is a true story about a member of the cabinet on the UK who was a supporter of prisoners and rehabilitation, and he destroyed his reputation defending a female who was a convicted child murderer and rapist, arguably the most infamous crime in the UK at the time. It's quite interesting to approach the idea of forgiveness even for the darkest amongst us, and why simply making ones like that suffer is not really gaining anyone anything.

 

[Piggus]

Oh you poor thing... Murder 77 people and still have access to luxuries that many free people can't even own/afford.

Is giving someone nothing really the standard we want for prisons? I know the emotional desire in humans is for some level of revenge, but what does it accomplish? The victims are dead. In practice, the family members of the victim wanting a deeper sort of revenge should not be considered in the way we treat prisoners. And such a system only works if we commit to helping even the worst offenders, not just those with crimes that don't send chills up ones spine.

A very illuminating movie called "Longford" is a true story about a member of the cabinet on the UK who was a supporter of prisoners and rehabilitation, and he destroyed his reputation defending a female who was a convicted child murderer and rapist, arguably the most infamous crime in the UK at the time. It's quite interesting to approach the idea of forgiveness even for the darkest amongst us, and why simply making ones like that suffer is not really gaining anyone anything.

What kind of example does it set when you can end the lives of dozens of young people and still live a relatively comfortable life of your own?

 

[Bricky]

Well, claiming you 'trained' yourself to murder real people with Modern Warfare 2 isn't exactly going to help your cause. If I didn't know much about the medium I'd only give kids games to someone like him too.

Wait, let me take that back, I wouldn't give ANY games to him. People like Breivik don't deserve our nice EU-West prisons and their good living conditions.

 

[Ethranes]

PS3 has no games

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Norwegian prisons sure sound like the pits. I mean, golly, you only get a PS2? Does he also only get two scoops of ice cream for dessert instead of three like the guys over in C Block get?

 

[fantomena]

Is giving someone nothing really the standard we want for prisons? I know the emotional desire in humans is for some level of revenge, but what does it accomplish? The victims are dead. In practice, the family members of the victim wanting a deeper sort of revenge should not be considered in the way we treat prisoners. And such a system only works if we commit to helping even the worst offenders, not just those with crimes that don't send chills up ones spine.

A very illuminating movie called "Longford" is a true story about a member of the cabinet on the UK who was a supporter of prisoners and rehabilitation, and he destroyed his reputation defending a female who was a convicted child murderer and rapist, arguably the most infamous crime in the UK at the time. It's quite interesting to approach the idea of forgiveness even for the darkest amongst us, and why simply making ones like that suffer is not really gaining anyone anything.

The prison systems goal we have here in Norway is to rehabilitate, not punish.

 

[blame space]

good comedy jokes everyone

 

[Captain Tuttle]

Now there's an entitled gamer

 

[eso76]

Breivik calls himself a human rights activist.

trolling = Level 99

 

[Hyperactivity]

A mandatory continuous 8 hours of Virtual Boy games every day it is

 

[Amir0x]

The prison systems goal we have here in Norway is to rehabilitate, not punish.

Oh I know (and I support it). I was specifically responding to this idea of his:

it turns my stomach just to hear him making any sort of accusations about 'injustice'. Give him nothing. Sounds like a hotel stay compared to the US prison system.

It seems to me this is not productive to approach prison in that way imo. Thankfully as you suggest, Norway does not.

 

[kutthoat5150]

give him an offline steam account with only bad rats in the library

 

[Dr.Acula]

It says two things that this guy in Scandinavia who killed 77 people is being treated better than an North American who is found with an ounce of pot.

There should be a prisoner exchange program, for real. Canadians would love to serve out a stint in Norway for minor non-violent crimes. As a Canadian, we can make a nice, PlayStationless cell available for Breivik tomorrow. Shivving dependent on if our inmates get the PS4.

 

[Kurtofan]

Rayman Revolution is quality.

 

[Zomba13]

Guy is a gigantic fucking cunt and doesn't deserve shit.

Though, I guess I'd be ok with forcing Bubsy 3D or Superman 64 on him. Like, 24/7. He can't do anything but 'play' those.

He thought killing all those people was a good thing. He thinks of himself as a 'human rights activist' guy is a fucking sick deluded cunt who acts like a baby.

 

[Ghazi]

He wants to be rewarded for behaving in jail for killing people?

ok.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

I don't even understand your joke. How were you trying to be witty?

I think it's a joke about slaughtering people. Very poor taste.

Anyway if the guy is really that pissed just buy more PS2 titles, there's like 3000+ of them. He doesn't need a new system.

 

[lordchompy]

Norwegian prisons sure sound like the pits. I mean, golly, you only get a PS2? Does he also only get two scoops of ice cream for dessert instead of three like the guys over in C Block get?

Over in T block they like to play two scoops, one cup.

 

[Piggus]

The prison systems goal we have here in Norway is to rehabilitate, not punish.

Brevik will never be released from prison so I don't know how that's rehabilitation. With this specific case your system is contradicting itself.

 

[DryvBy]

WiiU it is.

 

[oneils]

To play devil's advocate: as ridiculous as this sounds to an American, if other inmates are getting a wider selection of games and the ability to socialize, shouldn't he at least get some of his wishes? Otherwise the whole system of less-than-punitive measures for prisoners in Norway comes into question and it really does become a civil rights issue.

But Rayman Revolution of all games? Yeesh.

Well, he is in isolation probably for his own protection. Who would socialise with him in prison? He massacred dozens of teenagers.

Also, I don't think access to a wider selection of games is considered a human right. In most countries, he would have a few books and that is it.

 

[ViciousDS]

That is what he actually deserves. Fuck that guy.

Can't unsee cell from dbz!


Also only 21 years? WTF!

 

[lordchompy]

WiiU it is.

 

[Lucreto]

It's mind boggling he is complaining when you see how comfortable his cell is. It looks like my room in college.

He should be sent America's toughest prisons documentary to show how good he had it.

 

[SeventhSon]

Send in Rorschach with a delivery of Tiger handhelds...

Or give his cellmates game.coms and copies of Batman and Robin.

 

[kmax]

"You are killing me with videogamez and other luxuries. This is hell!"

Have you guys seen norwegian prisons btw? The place is like a 4 star hotel.

 

[Tripon]

Yeah, I'm baffled by that too.

"Oh, he killed 77 people in a brutal rampage, but let's not let him rot in prison forever...that's too harsh! He should be free after 21 years!"

What the hell.

Only 21 years?

Don't believe 21 years is a set prison sentence, he'll get evaluated at the end of 21 years to see if he is refit to enter society. It's more accurate to say he got life, with a possibility of parole in 21 years.

 

[Saya Brea]

Give him a copy of Persona 4. By the time he beats it he will have gone from mass murderer to Gentle Scholar.

 

[Dr.Acula]

IS Breivik in genpop or is he isolated for his protection? Are violent offenders placed in higher security prisons? Are prison assaults common?

I only ask because in NA Breivik would have to be segregated completely, because other prisoners would absolutely want to kill him.

 

[fantomena]

Brevik will never be released from prison so I don't know how that's rehabilitation. With this specific case your system is contradicting itself.

Of course he won't, but I have no intention to kill him. I would gladly pay taxes which let's the state get money to pay for his prison time. Im a supporter for medium to high taxes.

And Im even one of the people he want to kill (Im a member of AUF, the Labour partys youth organization).

 

[Spring-Loaded]

I'd watch a stream of him being forced to play terrible games

 

[KojiKnight]

I sentence him to life in N-Gage hell!

 

[Amir0x]

What kind of example does it set when you can end the lives of dozens of young people and still live a relatively comfortable life of your own?

I don't know what the standard for 'relatively comfortable' is, but the point is that extreme harsh penalties are not actual deterrents to criminals who commit crimes of this magnitude (look how little good the death penalty does, statistics prove), and since that seems to be one of the only actual real-world reasons people seem to want to continue to do these things (outside of pure revenge), I'm not sure it's sound.

This guy is probably never going to get out of prison. But what would it say about a system that itself commits to cruelty against prisoners because they can't think of a good way to rehabilitate? Studies have been done on the astonishingly negative impact that long-term confinement in prison can have on ones mental state, to say nothing of solitary confinement. It destroys the human condition over the long term, no matter how frequently you can play Rayman Revolutions.

The issue then is to try to create an environment that minimizes the dehumanizing aspects as much as possible, while still providing society with a way to be safe from criminals. To that end, it doesn't matter how "comfortable" the prisoner is relatively speaking, because as long as society is safe from them, the most important goal is being met. After that it's about ensuring that in the event the prisoner is released, they can acclimate back into society... something that's incredibly difficult if the stigma follows them in job hunts, if they've been abused by a prison system that isolated them to such a degree they can no longer function in the real world. Prisoners need to be educated, guided as much as possible, provided with conditions that do the best as possible to fight the degrading mental effects of prison, and rehabilitation needs to be the central purpose. Because it directly relates to the health of society at large.

But let's be serious, even with conveniences like watching TV and playing videogames, it's not a hotel. Prisons are usually regimented, people have to go to bed at certain times, there's no real freedom. And the loss of freedom is in of itself the punishment.

 

[seabass0]

What he deserves:

You MONSTER!!

 

[JBourne]

give him an offline steam account with only bad rats in the library

ATTICA! ATTICA!

 

[koji kabuto]

I would like to see him forced to play flappy bird every day.

 

[Lijik]

To be fair, Rayman Revolution has forced tutorials out the ass for stuff the other versions of the game assumed you could figure out on your own. He's not wrong in his assessment of who the game is aimed at.