Mass murderer Breivik threatened hunger strike over Rayman Revolution
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exactly. wtf.
Well the way the system is set up it's still possible, albeit highly unlikely, that he won't spend the rest of his life in prison. I also don't think that a prison system allowing for a scenario of lifetime imprisonment necessarily contradicts a goal of rehabilitation over punishment.
The military uses games to train as well. It's obviously not comprehensive training, but it probably can amount to something.
Flight sims, surgery simulations, driving simulations do the same thing.
Cizeta-Moroder
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Microsoft and their record of PR mistakes.
But yeah, it was bad, sorry.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
You know, I really hope he actually suffers as much as he makes it sound like.
I amemded my post as you were typing that. I don't think you can apply one set of standards to all people in the criminal justice system, nor can you indulge in the practice of an individual punishment for every crime in the world as that would paralyze our civic and legal systems. However, in the rarest instances, where someone has committed mass murder or criminality on this scale, special circumstances should be deeply considered.
My mother - rest her soul - was PGT for the Canadian government and she saw and protected some of the most broken human beings imaginable from subhuman abuse over the years. When you see what she had seen, you do occasionally encounter what can only be deemed as "evil". I'm not a religious man, and neither was she a woman of a particular faith, but the contaimemt and treatment we have for these individuals is inadequate. I don't know what the solution is. Should we have the right to vengence? Should we put down a rabid human as we do a dog? Is it not equally as unfair to the victims of his family to allow this person to remain in comforts while they have nothing but despair? I've seen Longford and that's a journey that many, many people aren't wise or brave enough to take. Nor should they be asked to if hate is all they have and the sum of what they want to cling to. Hate is a valid and understandable response to tragedy and we can not simply tell someone not to give into it.
Scott Moffit: "The Wii U even helps criminal rehabilitation programs! "
GamingIsDead
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Give him a original gba with all the games and remove all the lamps from his cell.
Easy way out? Who cares about him or his feelings? People like him simply should be removed from existence and forgotten quickly. The fact he can still make headlines and be known for his 'accomplishments' gives him satisfaction i'm sure and likely to produce copy cats.
Easy way out? Who cares about him or his feelings? People like him simply should be removed from existence and forgotten quickly. The fact he can still make headlines and be known for his 'accomplishments' gives him satisfaction i'm sure and likely to produce copy cats.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I'll have you know that Norway is still a civilised country.
I care if killing him is the easy way out. Let him rot in jail.
Been asked and answered many many times.
Basically 21 years is the maximum sentence on the books, but prison time can be extended indefinitely in the case of a dangerous offender. Canada has similar things, where people are allowed parole after 20 odd years or so, but our serial killers and other dangerous individuals just get denied at parole forever.
I didn't say anything about killing him. I just think it's disgusting that he gets to live so comfortably after he denied ANY life to so many people. You already determined he's not crazy so what exactly are you rehabilitating? You're not doing jack shit to make him "better" and even if you did he would never be set free anyway. You're letting this asshole live out his life and play PS2 games while 77 families will never see a loved one ever again. It's pathetic. I respect your prison system I know it works well but the stubbornness displayed by Norwegians in order to protect the "purity" of their prison system is mind boggling.
When my daughter starts whining I take her video games away.
If you've got the nerve to blame your killing spree on video games then you should be disqualified from ever playing them again. They should take that crap away and give him some kiddie books instead. Like some box car children or bearnstein bears.
If you've got the nerve to blame your killing spree on video games then you should be disqualified from ever playing them again. They should take that crap away and give him some kiddie books instead. Like some box car children or bearnstein bears.
The Horror the horror
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Fushichou187
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What, oh what to get the guy that has tried to kill everything?
Mr. Poolman
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dark_prinny
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I´ll like to play some fucking real life Mortal Kombat with that scum in his cell. What a waste of space.
Kageshinzo
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Get him a fucking Polystation.
I think his psychiatric evaluation only raised more questions, because IIRC he didn't follow any previous model for reckless behavior or mass killings and he was called a "special case" i.e. by all standards he is not insane.
Mr Fahrenheit
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I agree on that, but I think you and I have different definitions of "rotting" because it seems like he's living a nicer life than a large sum of the planet's population.
Shtof
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I guess it's the reason he gets only "kiddie games".
So what would you do?
That prison cell is much more in line with what I thought he would get. Not the club fed that was posted earlier.
For comparison, this is the cell of one of Canada's most notorious serial killers, Paul Bernardo.
this would be best solution.
You can't rehabilitate a sociopath, his brain is wired not to care. Its like telling a dog it should be a bird, utterly useless even if one day you trick it through drugs or psychotherapy into leaping off a building.
In his case, and in my second less passionate response to Amirox, I speak on the value of individual assessments of punishment for exceptional crimes.
GamingIsDead
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Being able to live a full life with life's simple pleasures is the easy way out. It sounds like he will even get better then that.
For those who haven't seen him. I recommend this Michael Moore video about the prison system in Norway. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01mTKDaKa6Q
Before he got caught by the police on the island, he wanted to take suicide. If we kill him, he may get what he wanted.
Killing him will change out democracy, and that's excactly a part of what he wanted to accomplish.
Before he got caught by the police on the island, he wanted to take suicide. If we kill him, he may get what he wanted.
Killing him will change out democracy, and that's excactly a part of what he wanted to accomplish.
Clarkus Darkus
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He ......killed........77........people.
Just think on that for a moment, The man shouldn't be breathing himself let alone trying to justify his rights.
Just think on that for a moment, The man shouldn't be breathing himself let alone trying to justify his rights.
lordchompy
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If other humans have the right, it becomes a human rights issue, at least in Norway. Just because he ended the lives of 77 humans doesn't revoke his human rights.
Solitary confinement is certainly justifiable because of the gravity of the crime and the potential of the convicted influencing other inmates, but it must still be executed humanely.
If Norway wants to remain steadfast about its policies regarding humane treatment and rehabilitation of inmates it must not allow vindictiveness to crack the very core of these ideals. With that said, because this deals with entertainment, which is not a human necessity, this seems to be more of a civil rights issue than a human rights one.
Breivik receiving the games and treatment he is describing is certainly justifiable if his psychiatrist feels they are what's needed, but if this treatment is coming from angry COs trying to eke out a small measure of revenge, then it is a civil rights issue.
Dreamwriter
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Maybe the other inmates have lighter crimes than mass-killing kids at camp.
not give him a public voice to the point where I, a guy in the US, manages to see several news stories a year about something stupid he is complaining about.
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No one cares, Breivik. Just rot away in your isolation.
Jeez people make it sounds like he's sleeping at the Ritz hotel, I mean it's not an American torture dungeon but still, that's no palace.
Not that I sympathize with this guy in the least.
Michael Moore is part of the problem. Do we really want our prisons to be like Norway's?
Let him rot. We have to be better than the people who murder, taxpayer money or not.
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