Massive PSP battery life breakdown at IGN

seanoff said:
jesus some of u will jump on anything. These are the absolute minimums

who the fuck plays with the volume on max (don't try it near me without headphones or u'll be getting an ass kicking) and from what i've seen of the screen playing at max brightness is just showing off.

Uh-huh, uh-huh.
seanoff said:
seriously grow up.
:lol
 
"How am i supposed to entertain myself on a flight from NZ to Europe with a portable that has a battery that only lasts 1/5 of the flight time?!!"

With extra batteries! :)

What happens when the DS/GBA SP runs out of batteries? At least if you have the coin for it, you can hawl 2-3 extra batteries with you and be sorted for the entire flight (how i laugh, that was my plan for my 12 hour Italy trip, but Alitalia's not very cool NO ELECTRONIC DEVICES policy put a bullet in that idea).

Just as an update, i'm still getting 5 hours + per battery - maybe i gots teh majik PSP, kind of a "reverse Gamespot" phenomenon?

Infact, in Italy i played with medium sound via headphones and lowest brightness and was well past 7 hours total play time when the first one gave up the ghost.
 
DCharlie said:
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Just as an update, i'm still getting 5 hours + per battery - maybe i gots teh majik PSP, kind of a "reverse Gamespot" phenomenon?
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According to IGN's report It depends on which game you're playing. You get 5 hours playing games that are 3D intensive?
 
I think you should be able to get 4-5 hours if you're willing to turn the screen brightness down to medium and play with headphones on. The lowest brightness setting is still brighter than the DS.

The full screen brightness is great for movies or showing off for friends, but its ridiculously bright, I don't think you need it set that high all the time if you're battery concious or going on longer trips.

Sony will introduce higher capacity batteries down the line anyway, so no, I don't think it will neccessarily effect what kinds of games are on the system. If the system sells well, especailly with the lucrative older demographic, devs will be scrambling to make games on it.

There should be an 8-12 hour battery out within the year, if a third party doesn't beat Sony to the punch.
 
"According to IGN's report It depends on which game you're playing. You get 5 hours playing games that are 3D intensive?"

yes, i get 5 hours playing Ridge.

I believe JackFrost is getting the same too.
 
Belfast said:
Geezus, for you people going on long flights, even on a plane I'm sure you'd get bored of playing a game for more than a couple hours. Besides, they should have other ways to entertain you on flights like that. Go get a magazine, a book, take a nap, or something else. If you're ONLY playing videogames for a 5-10+ hour flight, I'd personally find that excessive.

did you miss the discussion? Have you ever been stuck in an airport waiting lounge? If the psp's battery life is that short and it is - it'd make it hard to get onto the plane and still have juice left for games.

That said... DCharlie said he got about 7 hours (which is good and which is why we need IGN to do a everyone will use setting test).

I also think that asking to buy another battery for play on the go is a tad ridiculous. Its not like when you buy a ipod/mobile, that you'd have to buy ANOTHER battery to make play/use viable. I think its pretty bad (and then there's the issue of charging them both). It'd become like an actual task you have to do to be able to play PSP.

Can some state how much batteries cost? I don't mind buying more if they're like less than $20 USD. Sony should so make a charger/cradle. Won't cost them much to make and WILL sell.
 
The current replacement/extra battery costs about $40. Third party ones will probably be even less.

I think that's reasonable considering for $240 then, the level of technology you're getting and a 8-12 hour battery life on top of that.
 
Way to miss completely what I was saying.

Your point was that there was no reason to talk about the specific effects in RIDGE. I gave you reason why there was reason to talk about the specific effects. These are not just industry buzz words - they are advanced effects being processed by a machine. Discounting this (in a test designed to measure this, no less) is like discounting "streaming technology" and use of a "Dual Sided DVD" when talking about the revolutions of GTA because "games is games to me."

As for your other 'point' about bias, that ever saying that PSP looks hot and pumps out big polys that it's just IGN tonguing Sony's ass for an under-the-table payoff check, or that IGN does not say in every single article that everything on the DS is wonderful and nourishing and blessed from the womb of Nintendo, ... nobody will ever make you happy but yourself. Buck up, see the world in a whole new light.
 
soundwave05 said:
The current replacement/extra battery costs about $40. Third party ones will probably be even less.

I think that's reasonable considering for $240 then, the level of technology you're getting and a 8-12 hour battery life on top of that.


That is pretty cheap considering what Sony chargers for the Lithium Ion camcorder batteries...!
 
Catchpenny said:
Headphones are "real-world" usage?

They are for me. I do a lot of my gaming on the move - on public transport, mostly - and using the speakers for that is antisocial as well as hard to hear. I play my GBA with headphones wherever possible, too, because the sound quality is just so much better that way. It annoys me that I can't charge and use headphones at the same time.

I'd imagine just about anyone who uses their handhelds on public transport uses headphones too.
 
soundwave05 said:
The current replacement/extra battery costs about $40. Third party ones will probably be even less.

I think that's reasonable considering for $240 then, the level of technology you're getting and a 8-12 hour battery life on top of that.


$40 bucks? Ouch that's like the price of a new game? :( Does your $240 includ the Mem stick? If it does.. and PSP + 2 battery + Mem stick = :)
 
You name me one other product on the market that lets you play arcade-level Ridge Racers/Dark Stalkers etc., rip video clips to take on the road, plays MP3, has WiFi built in, a gorgeous widescreen LCD display, and a high-end glossy black/metal chrome casing and can give you 8-12 hours of battery juice (with that second battery) for $250 and we can talk.

That's a ridiculous value.
 
DCharlie said:
Just as an update, i'm still getting 5 hours + per battery - maybe i gots teh majik PSP, kind of a "reverse Gamespot" phenomenon?
Kutaragi sent his ninjas to make sure you got a special PSP. He figured having you do a 180 on Sony hardware after the PSX was better than any traditional advertising he could buy

"DC! He likes it!" ;)
 
sign me up for more hot buttery Kutaragi lovin! ;)

The difference one bit of good hardware makes.

*strokes PSP*

i've not been smitten by a bit of hardware like this in a long time.
 
goomba said:
Wow thats an awesome feature i wasnt aware of. Does DS do likewise?

DS has a sleep feature. I'm not actually sure if it would go into sleep automatically if I let it go... I never tested that before.

iyox said:
Way to miss completely what I was saying. It's fairly easy to produce counter-arguments when you completely avoid what the person was saying in the first place. Honestly I don't give a shit about the bump-mapping, the framerate or any other superfluous terms to describe clock consuming endeavors.

The fact that they went out of their way to describe in a pretty lengthy and unneeded way the industry buzz-words of why Ridge Racer is such a strain on the PSP is my argument.

This is the PSP side of the site. I care about those fancy buzzwords, how about that? I needed to read that in this article. So their goes your argument! What they did was appropriate - they described the reasons, in detail, about why they chose Ridge Racers for the test. When I read my articles I don't like it to be, as someone said earlier in this thread, "The Reader's Digest version." I want it to be as in-depth as possible so I am as informed as possible. Please note that you don't have to read a God-Damned thing at IGN so if it offends your poor sensitive mind then all you have to do is avoid IGN. Because they're so biased against DS! I mean! So biased that they even lied about battery life, am I right? Not like their honest Gamespot cousins, that's for sure!

Seriously. Hop off the conspiracy train. CHOO CHOOOO!

iyox said:
It augments IGN's position that PSP is the better system. Whether or not you feel the same as they do is immaterial, because as soon as you come to this realization the article is immediately biased. It's not any sort of distorted logic that leads me to this conclusion. IGN has stated they prefer the PSP and it shows in every facet of their dubious jorunalism.

First of all, IGN is not a "borg" site. They are allowed to formulate opinions about systems and they are allowed to favour them. In truthful fact, they would be doing a disservice to their readership if they DIDN'T voice their opinion on the various products to cover. It doesn't matter if some dumb freakin' Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft fanboys bring out the pitchforks because of something they said. Those types of people, you included, need to take a little time aside to mature a bit. IGN, or any other gaming site, is not here to cater to your touchy sensibilities. They can prefer anything and they can write that they prefer something. And this is without me even systematically breaking down why you're so wrong about the IGN bias, which I have done before.

So, what would IGN have to do to NOT be considered biased? Would they have to say they prefer DS? Would they have to not say anything at all?

I wouldn't want them to not say anything at all, that's for sure. That's not good journalism. Part of good journalism is stepping up to the mound and covering something they feel the "public" needs to know despite possible outlash.

Now, mind you, I don't like IGN at all, mostly because the quality of their writing is equivalent to tic-infested crack monkeys. But I do find this whole conspiracy theory most N fans have at this point to be rather hilarious.
 
You won't lose your save because right before your PSP battery dies it goes into sleep mode. It'll then be perfectly alright until you plug it into an outlet and resume your game.

Um, actually, I've let my battery die a few times, and most times when I start it back up, it starts at the opening bonger, not in-game sleep mode. It did once come out of sleep when I plugged the AC in, but I plugged it in seconds after it died, so that may have been a fluke.
 
My burning question:

WIll it charge while you are playing, if it's plugged it?

My minidisc would not. Just curious.

Seems to. It will play on the charger, at least - I don't know if it's also changing while it's powered (never thought to check after a dead battery how much an hour of play will raise the battery life to...)
 
also think that asking to buy another battery for play on the go is a tad ridiculous. Its not like when you buy a ipod/mobile, that you'd have to buy ANOTHER battery to make play/use viable. I think its pretty bad (and then there's the issue of charging them both). It'd become like an actual task you have to do to be able to play PSP.

FFS.

You are not buying another battery to make play *viable* - you can already play it just fine as is.

You may need to buy another battery to make play last 10+ hours, if your circumstances require that occasionally. What do you do when you want your 3rd gen ipod to last 10+ hours? Thats right, nothing.
 
Here's my issue--

I may be out and away from home all day, playing here and there. That could eat up the time.

Also, I go camping where anyting but overnight charging is not viable. I may want to play long stretches during the day. Even overnight charging is inconvenient in this setting.

Last-- I'd rather not have another item to have to charge and keep charged every night. I already have my phone/pda, and my jukebox. GBA SP is nice in this regard-- it hardly ever needs charging.

That all said-- it's not a dealkiller, but it sure is annoying.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
Here's my issue--

I may be out and away from home all day, playing here and there. That could eat up the time.

Also, I go camping where anyting but overnight charging is not viable. I may want to play long stretches during the day. Even overnight charging is inconvenient in this setting.

Last-- I'd rather not have another item to have to charge and keep charged every night. I already have my phone/pda, and my jukebox. GBA SP is nice in this regard-- it hardly ever needs charging.

That all said-- it's not a dealkiller, but it sure is annoying.

Sure its annoying, but not as annoying as trying to take a PS2 or Xbox out with you. GBASP *is* nice. I think if you have a desire for handheld gaming, you need a GBASP. But now, IMO, you also need a PSP.
 
Some fo you guys are really dense. It's a torture test. In other words, the worst case scenario at least until GT4 or something significantly more powerful than RR comes along. And even then, the numbers should still weight in around 4 hours at the low end.

I don't know what the complaints are for. Sony stated 4-6 hours on the middle brightness setting. If you can handle that, get the PSP. Otherwise, it's not gonna change for years, so get over it already. With wifi the numbers will be lower, but you'll know that if you have a laptop too. But then, Sony didn't give wifi numbers for that reason. I'd guess 3 hours on average for wifi support. But really, how often will you need more than 3 hours at a time to play wireless games with someone? I can understand online gaming, since you can be chilling somewhere all day/night playing, but then you plug into a power outlet. But sitting around next to someone for 3 hours at a time is enough. Find something else to do, or cross the PSP off the list, b/c it probably won't give much more than that.

The only thing I can see with battery life is people who commute a lot, but do nothing on their commute. People who fly a lot would probably love the option of playing wireless matches on long flights. Or people going on road trips might want to do the same to play with someone in another car. But that's the exception, not the rule. It won't happen enough to make a difference, and if it does, then you're SOL. PEACE.
 
Well I see a lot of people downplaying the battery issue by arguing differential uses, and things like putting the PSP down to take a crap etc.

But if we were to apply a 'power conservation' playstyle to the GBA, DS and other handhelds, you would probably see similar extensions in battery life.

It's not really a fair comparison, at least the one that is implicitly being made. I think battery life is a problem for the PSP and all the hidden costs associated with the PSP will be a problem in the long term.

For the record, I do not own a NDS, nor do I want one at the moment. I'm holding off on the PSP.

A sensible, non-flaming, non-fanboy post and one made by a Junior Member at that! Bravo Wuster!
 
Odnetnin said:

Google the 1GB Sandisk Memory Stick Duo Pro, they go for about $150.

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Odnetnin said:
Its actually $76.50 :) Pretty Good I guess. I was hoping to find a 1gig stick...
Details :P

Few of things about that...

1) Froogled for 5 min and found same model for $270
http://www.digitalfotoclub.com/sc/from-froogle.asp?id=964595661&rf=froogle&dfdate=12_20_2004

2) Sony branded MemSticks are always the most expensive. Find Sandisk or Lexar if you can for cheaper prices and no compromise on quality.

3) MS Pro Duo high speed is a brand new model. There's basically three speeds of MemStick - standard, Pro and now High Speed. Pro Duos should be cheaper, though they only seem to go up to 512 meg right now...not sure if they're going to go higher without tacking on that "High Speed" standard.

Edit - Defensor found the 1 gig Pro Duos!
 
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