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Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World - An Appreciation Thread

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Argyle

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The Sound.

DEAR GOD the fucking SOUND.

It still hasn't been surpassed.

I'd love to hear the sound mixing with Dolby Atmos.

If you have an Atmos-capable system I can assure you it sounds amazing upconverted using Dolby Surround. I only rewatched the opening scene but it was pretty amazing...
 
Strangely i just watched this for the first time last night. Aside from some pacing issues and what I consider to be cheap attempts at ratcheting up the drama, it was a pretty good movie. I really liked the supporting cast.
 

Loxley

Member
One of my favorite nautical films of all time. I also highly recommend The Bounty (1984) based on Mutiny on the Bounty:

IqxuZ3o.jpg


Starring:

Anthony Hopkins
Mel Gibson
Liam Neeson
Daniel Day Lewis
Sir Laurence Olivier

Probably the greatest male cast ever assembled. Insanely high production values and historical detail. The replica of HMS Bounty was built from scratch for $4 million.

Soundtrack by Vangelis.

Interesting, I've never even heard of this before. That cast alone is enough to peak my interest though, I'll definitely check it out.
 

Loxley

Member
Amazing film, they don't make movies like this anymore.

Need more awesome ship movies.

It is a pretty big bummer that we really don't get very films like this. I'm pretty sure part of it is that shooting in and around water is a logistical pain in the ass, so most studios/directors would prefer to just not bother with it.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
I do like how Paul Bettany ended up playing Charles Darwin in a film, after depicting a character who was Darwin in all but name in Master and Commander.
 

DJ_Lae

Member
Here's my guilty admission - I have the Blu-ray sitting right beside me but I have yet to watch it.

Picked it up a couple of months back for $5, been meaning to see it for ages.
 

Gorey

Member
Great OP. I read the books as a younger man and saw this in the theater when it was released. Glorious. Someday, an enterprising animator is going to do great things with the naval side of the Napoleonic era. Trafalgar, for gods sake
 
The Sound.

DEAR GOD the fucking SOUND.

It still hasn't been surpassed.

I'd love to hear the sound mixing with Dolby Atmos.

The sound mix on this is truly amazing. I only have the collector's edition DVD, and the DTS mix on it is still one of my go to show off discs.

I heard that the blu ray is not as good for sound, even if it is lossless. That I guess they toned it down some or something. I am not sure. But the DTS mix on the DVD is nuts.
 

Loxley

Member
I really hoped we'd see a second film :(

Me too man :( A few years back Crowe tweeted out, "If you want a Master and Commander sequel I suggest you e-mail Tom Rothman at Fox and let him know your thoughts".

Then again that won't do much good now since Rothman isn't at Fox anymore.
 

gdt

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I think I've only seen piece of this. Been hearing how great it is for years.

Not on Netflix or HBO Now though.
 
I also want to chime in at how annoyed I was at the end of this film. When Aubrey and Maturin are in the cabin talking and Jack realizes that the French captain is still alive, I was getting pumped for a final chase and showdown. Then they show the shot of the HMS Surprise starting to chase the Acheron, I was expecting the film to keep on trucking.

But then the credits started.

It was like a giant cock tease. I had no clue that over two hours had flown by and we were at the end. It felt so short because I was so engrossed, and I wanted more. MORE!

It is a sign of how good of a job they did with the film that they ended it with a cliffhanger like that and it left me wanting more.

I think I've only seen piece of this. Been hearing how great it is for years.

Not on Netflix or HBO Now though.

You can find it on DVD or Blu for less than $10 usually. Frequently around $5 or so. Just buy it. Thank the OP later.
 
I have yet to read the Hornblower series, but I've heard great things about it.

Making this thread also reminded me that I still have yet to read The Pursuit of Victory: The Life and Achievement of Horatio Nelson. I need to get on that.

You should check out the books about Lord Cochrane ... the main inspiration behind both Jack Aubrey and Horatio Hornblower ... and whose actual life outstrips the fictional exploits of either :)

Some the kindle editions are free or very inexpensive

Amazing life detailed in his wiki entry
 

-griffy-

Banned
One of my favorite films. The DVD extras are amazing, but I wish the Blu-Ray had a better video transfer.


This movie is essentially one of the last of the old school epics, where it was a movie that was big because it was a big production, with intensive location shooting and actual extras and giant props, etc., instead of relying on CGI for scale.
 

Loxley

Member
One of my favorite films. The DVD extras are amazing, but I wish the Blu-Ray had a better video transfer.


This movie is essentially one of the last of the old school epics, where it was a movie that was big because it was a big production, with intensive location shooting and actual extras and giant props, etc., instead of relying on CGI for scale.

Without a doubt. I sort of mark the end of the classic Hollywood historical epic revival with Kingdom of Heaven in 2005 (beginning ten years prior in 1995 with Braveheart).
 

Moongazer

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Great film. Wish we had more films and tv series which could depict the naval battles of that time period especially with the technology we have available now.

The Hornblower tv series which has been mentioned in this thread is also worth a watch along with the books which inspired it. Had of chance a few years ago to visit the replica ship that was used during the filming of that series which was pretty awesome as well.
 
Great movie. Tear-jerker, exciting, immersive. I just bought the Blu-ray for $7 from Amazon. Shame to hear about the less-than-stellar audio and transfer issues. The movie deserves the Criterion treatment.

Crowe and Bettany have great chemistry. They'd make a good cinematic duo like Redford and Newman, Pryor and Wilder.
 

Big-E

Member
Truly a masterpiece and I really think my favorite film. I have a hard time thinking of a movie I enjoy more than this one. The relationship between Aubrey and Maturin is great. I would love for them to make a new one, but I would think they would screw it up now as I feel movies have gotten worse since and they would add stupid shit to it.
 

foxtrot3d

Banned
I also highly recommend The Bounty (1984) based on Mutiny on the Bounty:

IqxuZ3o.jpg


Starring:

Anthony Hopkins
Mel Gibson
Liam Neeson
Daniel Day Lewis
Sir Laurence Olivier

Probably the greatest male cast ever assembled. Insanely high production values and historical detail. The replica of HMS Bounty was built from scratch for $4 million.

Soundtrack by Vangelis.

Well, I just finished watching this since it was on Netflix and I have to say I didn't really like it. Despite the stellar cast none of those actors get to really stand out and their characters aren't really well developed. I mean Daniel Day Lewis is just kinda there he doesn't really do much along with the rest of the supporting cast.

SPOILERS!

The movie seems to be mainly between Hopkins and Gibsons characters, but I also found the relationship lacking. Like, we're supposed to believe that Bligh and Fletcher were friends previously but besides a quick opening scene telling us they are friends this is never really shown. Also, after reading the wikipedia page I have to agree with Gibson's assessment:

Mel Gibson said:
"I think the main problem with that film was that it tried to be a fresh look at the dynamic of the mutiny situation, but didn't go far enough. In the old version, Captain Bligh was the bad guy and Fletcher Christian was the good guy. But really Fletcher Christian was a social climber and an opportunist. They should have made him the bad guy, which indeed he was. He ended up setting all these people adrift to die, without any real justification. Maybe he'd gone island crazy. They should have painted it that way. But they wanted to exonerate Captain Bligh while still having the dynamic where the guy was mutinying for the good of the crew. It didn't quite work."

I though the movie weirdly attempted too much of the time to make Cpt. Bligh seem like the villain when a majority of his actions were completely justified and competent. In fact, I think the biggest mistake I saw was that he was too lax. How the hell do you just allow your crew to go full native for how many weeks screwing all the women and enjoying the island life? Geez, what did you expect would happen?

All that said, it was mediocre for me. Also, I just now read that Vangelis did the soundtrack which is funny because while watching it I kept thinking man this soundtrack sounds like some Vangelis Blade Runner shit.
 
This is the type of movie that I get to love more the more I watch it. It really is a great, complete package. I should probably watch it again soon, I haven't in quite a while!
 
Loved this film when it came out, amazing atmosphere and soundtrack, and one of the best endings ever.

I really need to get it on Blu-ray.
 

The Cowboy

Member
Fantastic movie with one of the best surround sound tracks ever, this was one of the 1st movies that i watched after i got my 5.1 system last year and dear god does it make it sound like your on a boat and in the middle of a battle during the battle scenes.
 
Aye T'is a good movie!

I watched it like six months ago for the first time after a recommendation from a friends and thoroughly enjoyed it!
 

RedSwirl

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Saw this for the first time maybe a couple years back when it was on HBO. Ignored it back when it first came out because like most people I thought Early Modern Era warfare = boring. I was kinda shocked to see this dude was basically Picard but on the ocean.

You gotta work really hard to make that entire period of history/warfare look interesting to average consumers. Stuck between the swords and armor of the middle ages and the automatic firearms of today, the Early Modern period just isn't as immediately attractive in media (unless it's pirates).
 

Kill3r7

Member
Fantastic movie with one of the best surround sound tracks ever, this was one of the 1st movies that i watched after i got my 5.1 system last year and dear god does it make it sound like your on a boat and in the middle of a battle during the battle scenes.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
 

jett

D-Member
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One of my favorite speeches in cinema, and my favorite scene from the movie. It's a perfect parallel to Aubrey's own story of Lord Nelson, how the right words from the right man can make you swell up in love for your country and duty and feel your heart glow.
 

Bernbaum

Member
Got free tickets to a screening when it came out. Went into the film ready to hate it (for reasons I can't really remember) and walked out thoroughly impressed.
 

highrider

Banned
Love the film. Also nice to see mention of The Bounty as well, another classic. Master and Commander is unparalleled in bringing a great tall ship battle to life for me.
 

SpotAnime

Member
Great, great film. One of my favorites.

Also had chime in and say what a fantastic film this is. Will set some time aside this week to give it a rewatch,the sound work is phenomenal.

Truly a great underrated film. Even when it was released, at the height of Crowe's career,it didn't get much attention. I caught it on home video based on word of mouth and was amazed. Especially how
the main antagonist isn't a human, but a menacing, stalking ship
.

Thanks OP for bringing attention to this masterpiece.
 
One of my favorite nautical films of all time. I also highly recommend The Bounty (1984) based on Mutiny on the Bounty:

IqxuZ3o.jpg


Starring:

Anthony Hopkins
Mel Gibson
Liam Neeson
Daniel Day Lewis
Sir Laurence Olivier

Probably the greatest male cast ever assembled. Insanely high production values and historical detail. The replica of HMS Bounty was built from scratch for $4 million.

Soundtrack by Vangelis.

The theme is god tier Vangelis.
 
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