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[Daffy Duck]

Lol

 

[Moze]

Indeed, but fortunately the Conservative voters outnumbered them.

Spoiler

I didn't vote Conservative.

What is wrong with Labour?

 

[iMax]

I never said that, but here is no denying that the media abuses the fact that a vast majority of people who vote are idiots who have no idea what they are doing.

That's mighty presumptuous of you. And the same works both ways. How are you so sure that you're not one of those idiots who have no idea what they are doing?

 

[Dougald]

RBS and Lloyds up an average of 6% each. Good, good!

Lloyds at 87? Bah, I sold mine last month when I had to preserve capital

Not sure why they're that high, Osbourne will flog them at the lowest possible value

 

[Tenebrous]

3.5m votes for UKIP, one seat.
1.5m votes for SNP, fifty-six seats.

It does need to change, but thankfully, it's only UKIP.

 

[Cindres]

"Democracy is flawed because my party didn't win"

That's all I can read it as, if Labour had won it the tables would be flipped and democracy would be working.

 

[Meteorain]

Right so I've been told by a friend that the my choice on who I would want as Prime Minister with a view of who would represent us on an international scale is stupid; "And that affects you how? Are you going to the meetings". Apparently any monkey could be sent in to EU talks to get us some deals.

I found myself struggling a little outside of basic mediation trade deal points to say as to why who represents the UK does matter. Anyone willing to educate me?

 

[Moze]

That's mighty presumptuous of you. And the same works both ways. How are you so sure that you're not one of those idiots who have no idea what they are doing?

Are you asking me if i have been influenced to vote for Labour by the media? Are you aware of your surroundings? Where is the Labour support outside of maybe the guardian?

 

[hal9001]

Wow. I did not think in a million years that the Cons would have won a all out majority. Incredible. U.K is screwed.

 

[iMax]

"Democracy is flawed because my party didn't win"

Amazing.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Sturgeon seems to be killing it on BBC News right now, saying that a referendum won't happen until AT LEAST 2016. Even in spite of the stupid questions being asked~

She looks so tired. They all must be knackered.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

SNP have done what the Tories couldn't. Made English politics seem interesting and united people under the Tory party.

 

[Hasney]

Other than 'one party for life' voters, and arguably those voters that will tend towards the left/right based on age (I would expect Neogaf to have more younger voters and therefore skew more towards the left naturally) - I think there are three things that happened:

1) Ed Milliband is a bad leader and didn't do nearly enough to get a groundswell of support. They didn't even have any decent policies until this year. They need a big shakeup. Wonder if big brother will come back now?

2) The SNP got a massive boost from the referendum. I hope they don't use this as some kind of mandate to push for another independence push. This also clearly fucked up labour/LD disproportionately compared to the Tories.

3) the economy is kind of ok, maybe. Still work to do. And simply put people will, and always have, trust the Tories with the economy more than the other parties. If things were stronger, people may have felt more comfortable voting Labour.





Also, lol at people paying quite so much attention to opinion polls leading up to the election. Was it 2005 that the polls got it so dramatically wrong? Can't remember but they've been entirely wrong before.

1) Yup, and I mentioned earlier that I can't see it changing with the current crop of Labour party members, but I was given a few names, some of which I'll need to look into harder, so the race for the Labour leadership might end up being tastier than I expected.

2) I think independence will come up again this term if we vote ourselves out of the EU and I would agree that it should. It's a whole different question if the UK is out of the EU and I think if it did happen again, Scotland would become independent if we were out.

3) Tories are lucky the recession came about early on so they could pin it on Labour, when really it was a tag team fuckery and George Osbourne got that hot tag to make it worse. They did exactly what early 2000's Labour did and borrowed their way out of it, so if they stop that and add cuts again, I could see another recession happening this term. It is a balancing act though and it can be avoided even with cuts, but that's what's going to make or break them this term.

 

[brokenbeans]

 

[Vitanimus]

welp, tory won my local seat. looking forward to seeing my local A&E finally close down!

 

[Lashley]

Justify them? They're about to double them. But it's ok because multi-millionaire Dave Cameron had a disabled son who died.

Yep, I feel really bad for another with a disability.

 

[Myggen]

England has turned into far right country imo. This is the beginning of the end. The Tory support in this thread is disgusting. it makes no sense.

The Tories aren't "far right".

 

[travisbickle]

"Democracy is flawed because my party didn't win"

Media propoganda and low turnout percentages are universal negative aspects of democratic voting.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Lol

ssshhh only dreams now.

 

[iMax]

Are you asking me if i have been influenced to vote for Labour by the media? Are you aware of your surroundings? Where is the Labour support outside of maybe the guardian?

Well there's a fuckton of it in here, apparently. I'm asking you why you think this is such a big conspiracy and can't accept that maybe it's just people voting for the policies they agree with.

People who become so invested in their own bias lose their ability to reflect on it. I've seen a lot of that today. I'm not a party member and I vote purely on the policies of my parliamentary candidate after I have considered them deeply.

 

[Masquerader]

She looks so tired. They all must be knackered.

Yup. Pretty sure Cameron and Miliband would be going to bed now for the nigh-- Lol, 9:01AM, and they've got busy schedules, so... Coffee~

 

[Hasney]

BBC:

Want to know what Lily Allen, Katie Hopkins and other celebrities think of the night's results?

No

 

[PJV3]

Are you asking me if i have been influenced to vote for Labour by the media? Are you aware of your surroundings? Where is the Labour support outside of maybe the guardian?

You have to live in the alternative reality where the Left runs everything and didn't die in the late 80's. Oh and Christmas is being banned along with sport.

 

[tomtom94]

So, to summarise:

Our best chance of getting electoral reform for some time is gone.
The disgusting tactics of the tabloid press have been vindicated.
Labour are not going to be able to form a decent opposition.
The party whose manifesto was rated the least realistic by the IFS, who want to find £12bn of welfare cuts that they won't detail, and who have overseen one of the worst cost of living crises in history, have a majority.

Yup, excuse me while I go celebrate!

 

[Juicy Bob]

It's a shame that the secret ballot system means we can't see how the party vote spread varies among demographics.

I'd love to see where the youth vote went.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

"Conservatives won't get the most seats."

Conservatives get the most seats.

"Conservatives won't be able to form a coalition."

Exit poll shows a deal very likely.

"Yeah, um, well, they haven't won because they won't get a majority."

Conservative majority now expected.

"Erm.. er... Conservatives will do a rubbish job."


Labour, hilarious all night long. So much for credit where credit is due, gracious defeat and congratulations. Awful reaction from them.


I'm sorry, should we all have voted for your favourites?

hahaha sogood.gif

 

[Tak3n]

So

Press starting to say the SNP argument played by the tories worked, and this shift to the tories is British voters saying to Scotland, you will not have a say in how we run our country...

Battle line drawns hey.... Cameron is going to go in hard at parliament claming this is a mandate for massive change

 

[SuperEpicMan]

This is kind of a mess tbh, 95% of people are voting based off advertising and aren't really making an informed decision. I spoke to someone yesterday who was voting for who they thought was the current PM, but for some reason mixed labour and conservatives up and voted Labour lol.

We need a benevolent dictator lol

 

[Miles Quaritch]

10+million of us

A highly depressing number.

I feel it might be time to seek out pastures new after this election, I just don't see myself aligning with the direction the country is going in.

Deep and devastating welfare cuts, a further selling off of already precious social housing, an isolationist approach to the the world. It's a sad day.

On the contrary I think its the Labour government that really fucked this country over.

Oh get it off with this bollocks. They did significantly less damage than the Tory/Lib Dem coalition and that's nothing compared to what's to come.

Maybe you don't understand?

Seems I don't. I believed we were a caring and fair country, not a country where we slam the poorest and demand they bear the burden for all of society's ills.

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

On my phone now so hard to check, but am I right in thinking the tories can no longer get a majority?

Looks like at best they'd be one short? Is that even with the speaker?

 

[Statue of Limitation]

Your welcome to anytime lol

If only if any of us were in a position to afford to after the last four years

 

[jimbobsmells]

That's all I can read it as, if Labour had won it the tables would be flipped and democracy would be working.

I would hope it's more in reference to something like this:

3.5m votes for UKIP, one seat.
1.5m votes for SNP, fifty-six seats.
.

 

[anonymous_abc]

On my phone now so hard to check, but am I right in thinking the tories can no longer get a majority?

Looks like at best they'd be one short? Is that even with the speaker?

They are on course for a majority.

 

[dalin80]

England has turned into far right country imo. This is the beginning of the end. The Tory support in this thread is disgusting. it makes no sense.

Over 50% of votes have been for more 'liberal' parties and even the tories are more centralist on the grand scheme of things.

The conservatives have been in power or a coalition thereof about a dozen times in the past century, the beginning of the end must have been going for some time now and considering we have just come out of the previous tory government without much fuss such terms seem a touch... dramatic.

Tory support? In this thread??? There isn't a LOL meme picture big enough.

 

[Hasney]

Well there's a fuckton of it in here, apparently. I'm asking you why you think this is such a big conspiracy and can't accept that maybe it's just people voting for the policies they agree with.

I don't agree with that part actually. People aren't engaged enough to even know what the policies are past the buzzwords. Don't get me wrong, with that I'm not saying Tories spun their way to victory as nothings changed in that respect. Tony's Labour didn't magically give the uninformed voter the engagement required to vote seriously on any policy.

The B roll footage the stations have of asking people questions as to who they're voting for, then why and them having no idea whatsoever is always cringe worthy

 

[iMax]

Seems I don't. I believed we were a caring and fair country, not a country where we slam the poorest and demand they bear the burden for all of society's ills.

I guess not.

 

[WadiumArcadium]

RBS and Lloyds up an average of 6% each. Good, good!

Obviously I'm very happy with this result, but it's sad to see the death of the Lib Dems. Make no mistake - they're absolutely *done*. There's no coming back from here IMO. They simply aren't a national force and we are at a stage where there are credible alternatives in almost every direction from the Tories, so long as Labour don't elect some Foot-esque loon.

Cameron has sealed his position in Tory lore today, but if the union collapses under his watch it'll disappear in an instant. If he can use this (probable) majority to quell that fear, even if just for a generation, he'll go down in history in a good way.

Balls gone = the British voting public are wise.

Thanks all for making this thread great and being good sports! 5 more years! 5 more years!

I think I'm going to be sick.

 

[Slowdive]

On my phone now so hard to check, but am I right in thinking the tories can no longer get a majority?

Looks like at best they'd be one short? Is that even with the speaker?

Looks like it'sgoing to be a majority.

 

[Dr Dogg]

Well with 20 constituencies to declare and only 11 more needed for a majority that looks like a pretty done deal to me.

Still Thanet South might give me a chuckle this morning.

BBC:

No

I don't think that was a question as they're going to tell you anyway

 

[Tak3n]

John Pinar

Heard tories are discussing bringing DUP in just to shore up vote...


Queens Speech

English Votes for English Law being put first

 

[Protome]

So

Press starting to say the SNP argument played by the tories worked, and this shift to the tories is British voters saying to Scotland, you will not have a say in how we run our country...

Battle line drawns hey.... Cameron is going to go in hard at parliament claming this is a mandate for massive change

The smartest thing he could do on the Scotland front would be devolve significant things and push it through as quickly as possible. Seems less likely now that he has a majority without Scotland's input though, if it was a Minority it was pretty likely because it would bypass SNP blocking any votes.

 

[bomma_man]

My condolences. If the same thing happens in the aus GE next year it will kill me.


PS five year parliamentary terms are insanity, especially with a defacto unicameral legislature and weak division of power (unless you're in Scotland).

 

[Jackpot]

Things we can look forward to:

-Repeal of the Human Rights act

-A huge waste of money and share prices falling from the EU referendum

-Age gates on every website

-BBC funding cut again

-Disabled and most vulnerable getting their support cut further whilst companies dodge their tax bills that are an order of magnitude larger than the money saved from the cuts

 

[Vitanimus]

as a 21 year old, a huge majority of my social circle voted labour and I like to think most people my age aren't entirely disconnected with the real world to do the same

I find it amazing that people on my twitter and Facebook have had to literally beg people to not vote tory. it speaks volumes.

 

[kmag]

So, to summarise:

Our best chance of getting electoral reform for some time is gone.
The disgusting tactics of the tabloid press have been vindicated.
Labour are not going to be able to form a decent opposition.
The party whose manifesto was rated the least realistic by the IFS, who want to find £12bn of welfare cuts that they won't detail, and who have overseen one of the worst cost of living crises in history, have a majority.

Yup, excuse me while I go celebrate!

Don't worry the Tories won't do much from their manifesto, they have the get out jail card that Dave isn't going to stand at the next election

 

[mrklaw]

I never said that, but here is no denying that the media abuses the fact that a vast majority of people who vote are idiots who have no idea what they are doing.

Because they didn't vote for the person you wanted them to?

While I'm no fan of the conservatives, Labour did nothing to provide a credible alternative IMO. They spent 4 of the last 5 years doing nothing, and then only the last 12 months attempting to get something resembling a manifesto together. I don't trust them to be able to run the country yet either.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

Yep, I feel really bad for another with a disability.

Thats what breaks my heart. Having actually seen what the cuts have done to people I know the dread they must be feeling right now. This country has really let down the most vulnerable and it looks to continue.

 

[iMax]

I don't agree with that part actually. People aren't engaged enough to even know what the policies are past the buzzwords. Don't get me wrong, with that I'm not saying Tories spun their way to victory as nothings changed in that respect. Tony's Labour didn't magically give the uninformed voter the engagement required to vote seriously on any policy.

The B roll footage the stations have of asking people questions as to who they're voting for, then why and them having no idea whatsoever is always cringe worthy

No, of course, there's a degree of this. I'm just speaking for myself here. But with the arguable diminishing of organised media, this is getting mitigated to an extent.

But the larger problem is that a bunch of people just don't really care enough. That's the real issue.

 

[tomtom94]

John Pinar

Heard tories are discussing bringing DUP in just to shore up vote...

That's disgusting, they have no legitimacy in Parliament, people in England didn't vote for them, etc.

 

[PJV3]

Things we can look forward to:

-Repeal of the Human Rights act

-A huge waste of money and share prices falling from the EU referendum

-Age gates on every website

-BBC funding cut again

-Disabled and most vulnerable getting their support cut further whilst companies dodge their tax bills that are an order of magnitude larger than the money saved from the cuts

Strike ballot law

or have they dropped that disgusting idea?