Caleranatior
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Con hold with +2.7% majority. Unsurprising, but at least our MP is not terrible.
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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!
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Con hold with +2.7% majority. Unsurprising, but at least our MP is not terrible.
Because bananas aren't bent any more and Muslims have banned Christmas.
Back off Brussels!
Clegg held on? Even though his party was decimated? What is this sorcery?
I don't think it is fair to label people idiots for feeling a certain way, I for one want to leave Europe because my local council refuses to improve any infrastructure to cope (they blame the cuts on why they cant)
that does not make me a idiot, if anything it makes me more caring as why should I want my local area to disappear in chaos (some would argue it already is)
you are saying I am a idiot because immigration makes a net benefit, but you find one area where the local council has taken that money to improve infrastructure?
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Conservative tactical voting. The Conservative vote in his constituency was down something like 14%.
Mangoverboard
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Britain won't leave the EU. Business won't let that happen. A quick referendum will shut up those Tory hardliners and it'll be easier to stop Scotland leaving the Union then too.
Mr. Luchador
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OK, with that in mind I can't help but feel there will be strong vote against leaving the EU. I hope, anyway. I'm a fan.
anonymous_abc
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Tories went out for him in droves.
Charles Brandon
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Scotland: big swing to SNP in every seat
England & Wales: Lib dems getting turned over everywhere. Very marginal swing to Conservative from Labour.
31GhostsIV
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For today's study, I recommend reading about the 80's under Thatcher.
Cheat Code
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Here's to the UK becoming Mad Max in the next five years.
RedSparrows
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But the vulnerable are NOT being protected. You've heard of ATOS, right? Of increasingly punitive sanctions on JSA et al? All in the hope of winkling out a tiny minority of frauds? Of the bedroom tax? Of cuts to legal aid? These are people who need help and are getting less and less of it. Why are they burdened with it, rather than a small rise in taxes on the top? 'Class war' they scream, when anyone suggests that.
Baleoce
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Hereford and South Herefordshire: Jesse Norman (Tory) dominated as expected (he did bribe a crowd with jammy dodgers after all) UKIP came 2nd quite worryingly, and Lib Dems got wiped out, which is unusual for here because it's usually them and the tories fighting if out for the win. But it's pretty indicative of how most people feel about them right now, so not too surprising.
If I was a single interest voter, sure. I'm not though. I looked at the overall packages and found all of them substantially lacking.
Turnout at 72% with a Labour gain with an 8.8% majority but the real story was the Greens finishing second getting a 23% increase with the Lib Dem's dropping 29.2% over the 2010 election. Then again a quarter of the registered electorate being students and that whole tuition fees fiasco is probably a big reason why.
Well you say that but the polls in the final couple of days had Conservative and Labour pegged at 34% a piece and when you look at the voter share Conservatives at 36% and Labour at 30% is within the margin of error. Similarly with UKIP, Lib Dem and SNP percentages but there are very few constituency polls to give a closer look at voter intention in certain areas and more importantly on a seat by seat basis.
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AHA-Lambda
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This is why FPTP isn't fair :/
RedSparrows
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Sorry, to clarify: you don't like the EU because the local council can't afford to improve things because of central government cuts?
GrizzleBoy
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Pledges no raise in student fees.
Gets elected.
Almost immediately TRIPLES student fees. To the tune of almost ten fucking grand a year for tuition......
Also becomes known as the guy who will cut almost every benefit.
NHS is messed up. (had a baby last month, service was terribad).
Wins next election by a landslide.
Only conclusion I can think of is that young Britons are complete idiots. Theres no way they voted.
Meanwhile, thousands upon thousands wasted their votes on the rebadged bnp party for only a single seat........
Oh boy.
Gets elected.
Almost immediately TRIPLES student fees. To the tune of almost ten fucking grand a year for tuition......
Also becomes known as the guy who will cut almost every benefit.
NHS is messed up. (had a baby last month, service was terribad).
Wins next election by a landslide.
Only conclusion I can think of is that young Britons are complete idiots. Theres no way they voted.
Meanwhile, thousands upon thousands wasted their votes on the rebadged bnp party for only a single seat........
Oh boy.
Baleoce
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I'm willing to bet the smaller party would think twice.
This isn't about single interests. This is about putting the most vulnerable people first then looking at everybody else. Poor disabled people literally have no way out. They should always be put first.
Napoleonthechimp
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Charnwood:
Edward Argar (Conservative) 28,384
Sean Kelly-Walsh (Labour) 11,453
Lynton Yates (UKIP) 8,330
Robert Sansome (Liberal Democrats) 3,605
Cathy Duffy (BNP) 489
So the same as it has always been.
I think the point is that the meagre savings to be made from cutting abuse of the welfare system are dwarfed, absolutely dwarfed by the huge gains to be made by stopping the rich and corporations from cheating us all out of the tax they owe.
But we both know which of those gets the most attention.
in essence yes, I would fully expect that the local council is talking shit, but our local schools have a 30% EAL
Hospital was on national news for effectively shutting because they could not cope....
doctors in under a week? forget it...
Local council admits there is a problem but are unable to react due to funding
CyclopsRock
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The toys! They are out of the pram!
The Conservatives have spent more time in government than any other party, and this is the most liberal, centrist, sensible version that's ever existed. The UK will not turn into mad max.
The Conservatives have spent more time in government than any other party, and this is the most liberal, centrist, sensible version that's ever existed. The UK will not turn into mad max.
Mr. Luchador
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Those are you ideologies though, they fit with your beliefs and interests. I'm not saying they're right or wrong, but not everyone will share that feeling. Some people will believe differently (for many reasons) and look for the things that matter most to them. There's really no 'right' or 'wrong' as long as your vote is informed and thought through.
We might not agree with it, and strongly oppose certain things, however you've got to believe that as a Human Race we can self regulate to ensure now extremists gain control. I might have contradicted myself at some point. I'm thinking about Bischoff Spread.
Charles Brandon
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yup. Low turn-outs and tory gains in England suggest the blue rinsers did their thing whilst the unemployed youth couldn't be bothered to get out of bed. And you wonder why the tories cut benefits and shore up pensions.
I'm from Sunderland (the original classic Labour stronghold) and I emigrated to Austria last year after years of working to be able to ditch the UK for good. As someone from the North (and in particular the Northeast) I've always felt that I belong to the forgotten people of the country, the corner that is always overlooked and nobody cares about.
This election just solidifies my belief that I got out at the right time. It breaks my heart to think of family and friends at home who need to brace themselves for five more years of suffering at the hands of a government completely bereft of morals, ethics or empathy.
Of course, in a couple years I'll have to worry about the possible effects of Brexit and the removal of my status as an EU citizen. I have a job, a girlfriend and a life here in Vienna. But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
A dark day for the country.
This election just solidifies my belief that I got out at the right time. It breaks my heart to think of family and friends at home who need to brace themselves for five more years of suffering at the hands of a government completely bereft of morals, ethics or empathy.
Of course, in a couple years I'll have to worry about the possible effects of Brexit and the removal of my status as an EU citizen. I have a job, a girlfriend and a life here in Vienna. But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
A dark day for the country.
RedSparrows
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Sorry, I must have missed something: I presume you're talking about immigration, given that's the only possible link...? (and non-EU migration too, that yet-to-be-played card?)
HazySaiyan
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Labour hold as expected, bigger majority than last time too, although UKIP seemed to have taken a few Tory votes.
LibDem can rest easy knowing they weren't dead last. That honour goes to TUSC.
I'm in Huddersfield BTW.
Solid Labour. Stayed solid Labour (slight increase, probably from the Lib Dems). Surprisingly high UKIP vote for a central London constituency, driven by anti-Polish sentiment I suspect.
Depressing.
PJV3
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Watch CBeebies, it's a happy place where UKIP don't exist, they will never take the night garden.
Dr Zhivago
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Sheffield Central: massive Labour victory (was marginal with LD).
Lib Dems held on in my home town of Southport. Interestingly, Tory vote was actually down there.
I'm sure you mean well, but you say one thing whilst simultaneously argue for another.
Arguing for a lower welfare bill is targeting the poor in your budget.
I my self would rather have a second look at the corporate welfare state.
CyclopsRock
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I laughed out loud.
Yea I don't see any connection here which is why I am confused.
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The wanker I voted for lost and got replaced by an even bigger wanker.
Psycho_Mantis
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Echo chambers where it is trivial to shut out views that don't agree with your own.
Charles Brandon
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the scottish fish mafia got exactly what they wanted. A clear mandate from the scots but no obligation to actually do anything. Going into coalition would have been a nightmare for them as compromises and broken promises take the shine off their tartan halos. Not they just get to sit there, shouting that their country isn't represented, that scotland is ignored. They don't have to make any hard choices. All grist to their mill.
This time in five years we could be out of Europe and out of the union.
This time in five years we could be out of Europe and out of the union.
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