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May Wrasslin |OT| Vince McMahon doesn't give 5 million f**ks what you think.
- Thread starter funkystudent
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A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Yeah sure.
Here is what's in the WWE '13 Revolution/reveal video:
- CM Punk appears to be the cover boy
- New CM Punk Entrance...looks very legit
- New CM Punk model?
- CM Punk wearing the MITB attire
- CM Punk Entrance attire (White Best in the World Shirt)
- Chris Jericho Confirmed
- Jericho wearing his Elimination Chamber attire
- Attitude Era Undertaker Confirmed (Mid 1997 attire)
- Stone Cold Steve Austin confirmed
- Mankind Confirmed (White top, Brown tights)
- Sheamus Confirmed (Summer 2011 attire)
- Big Show Confirmed (wearing Army singlet)
- Mark Henry confirmed (Black and Red attire)
- New RAW/SmackDown! Sidetrons confirmed
- CM Punk Does the elbow drop from the top of the turnbuckle through the announce table
- Chris Jericho does a Lionsault from the ring apron through the Announce Table
- Big Show and Mark Henry break the SmackDown! ring (similar to Vengeance of this year)
- Austin and Mankind are fighting in what appears to be an old-school arena.
- Austin and Mankind break a steal guard rail and fight in the crowd
via pwinsider
- CM Punk appears to be the cover boy
- New CM Punk Entrance...looks very legit
- New CM Punk model?
- CM Punk wearing the MITB attire
- CM Punk Entrance attire (White Best in the World Shirt)
- Chris Jericho Confirmed
- Jericho wearing his Elimination Chamber attire
- Attitude Era Undertaker Confirmed (Mid 1997 attire)
- Stone Cold Steve Austin confirmed
- Mankind Confirmed (White top, Brown tights)
- Sheamus Confirmed (Summer 2011 attire)
- Big Show Confirmed (wearing Army singlet)
- Mark Henry confirmed (Black and Red attire)
- New RAW/SmackDown! Sidetrons confirmed
- CM Punk Does the elbow drop from the top of the turnbuckle through the announce table
- Chris Jericho does a Lionsault from the ring apron through the Announce Table
- Big Show and Mark Henry break the SmackDown! ring (similar to Vengeance of this year)
- Austin and Mankind are fighting in what appears to be an old-school arena.
- Austin and Mankind break a steal guard rail and fight in the crowd
via pwinsider
BoboBrazil
Member
They are doing an attitude era gimmick with this game. Alot of the attitude era guys like New Age Outlaws, Xpac, etc are going to be in the game.
Meltzer and Alvarez have actually conducted alot of audio interviews with former WWE creative team members that cover the same type of stuff, but go into even greater detail on what it's like to work in the WWE and with Vince, HHH, Stephanie, etc.
I remember one former writer revealing that one of Vince's favorite movies is Wild Hogs, of all things.
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Deleted member 47027
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Wouldn't be surprised since it appears WWE All Stars 2 is nowhere. :|
Wild Hogs isn't major.
Interesting read there, RBH.
Not surprised there. They've been trying to pull that for about the last couple of months now. Making him more and more Cena-esque.
And no Kane fire powers? Yeah, that's gotta suck.
Not surprised there. They've been trying to pull that for about the last couple of months now. Making him more and more Cena-esque.
And no Kane fire powers? Yeah, that's gotta suck.
Are you saying that everyone has seen Wild Hogs?
It sounds like a god damn south park style of writing where everyone is scrambling on a week by week basis, but, in addition, they're also attempting to have some kind of a long term plan, and have a head guy that changes his mind way too far into development, sabotaging what little they've come up with.
It's a horrible, horrible process that makes stories inconsistent and without direction on a week by week basis, and the PPVs/feud blowoffs completely uneventful.
They need to gut their entire process of having 3-5 different departments and an overlord in Vince who throws out anything he wants at any time, and just consolidate their writing into one department and a head booker. Stop writing scripts and start writing outlines instead, and leave it up to the booker and talent to flesh things out and give life to the stories.
Saying Daniel Bryan should celebrate every win like it's the greatest of his life? That's exactly how these "scripts" should be. Outlines on directions to take characters in, but the actual implementation of these ideas depends on the talent themselves.
That's how wrestling used to be. And that's how the matches usually are handled, as well. That type of "planned, but unscripted, and not fake" dynamic is what makes wrestling appealing, both to fans and to the wrestlers themselves.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Steph wanted to fuck you, bro.
Also, Ziggler getting reprimanded for improvising his promos twice is disheartening to read.
The only reason Punk is allowed more leeway now is because he delivered what probably was the greatest single promo of all time in wrestling, a promo that everyone knew could have been a turning point for the business to a new era that embraced worked storylines, blurring the line between what was backstage stuff and what was just "for TV"
Too bad instead of changing things, or being remembered in the same vein as Austin's KotR speech, it'll be just another great, well known, but ultimately meaningless (in the grand scheme of things) promo, like DX impersonating the nation.
yeah
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Deleted member 47027
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And to think, without the curtain call for the Kliq, Austin would never have won KOTR. I think that's a hell of a punishment for Vince to dish out, to take Trips out of the PPV entirely when he was slated to win it. He works in mysterious ways.
I can understand the WWE's logic in trying to position someone like Sheamus as the babyface to ultimately take over Cena's spot, but I just don't believe that Sheamus is the guy for that role.
Sheamus can certainly be a fixture in the main event picture in the years to come and he's improved quite a bit compared to when he first started, but as the top guy? I don't know about that.
Sheamus can certainly be a fixture in the main event picture in the years to come and he's improved quite a bit compared to when he first started, but as the top guy? I don't know about that.
UberTag
Member
None of those revelations should come up as anything new. Pretty much reads as word-for-word retreads of the exact same observations the parade of Formerly Creative talent ran through back when Dave Lagana was running a weekly podcast and not booking TNA/Ring Ka King (not coincidentally, these shows are now the best written and most watched weekly television wrestling broadcasts respectively).
Vince is and always has been the poison of his own product.
Vince is and always has been the poison of his own product.
He's probably the only guy they have that pulls in little kids (I'm talking their youngest demo) like Cena does. When I went to Smackdown after Mania, I actually saw several little kids dressed up as Sheamus, complete with their hair dyed red and spiked....and these aren't teenagers or pre-teens I'm talking about here.
Like I said, I miss his website. It was fantastic.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Touche.
what do you get for working out with Kane?
Professor Beef
Banned
I, as a native-american/mexican man, can clearly identify with Sheamus.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Tombstoned ;(
Nocturnowl
Member
The main flaw I see with the Sheamus scheme is that they are trying to force him into being the top guy when all previous top guys seemed to reach that status almost organically, Sheamus hasn't given us much to go with to be the top face that everyone wants to see, he's just a standard face being slotted in the top position.
BoboBrazil
Member
Who else is there? The only problem is they are trying to fit him into a character he isn't with the stupid irish folklore comedy shit. If they let him be himself as a top face he would be much better off. Also I think fucking over Daniel Bryan really hurt Sheamus. He's taking heat from the fans for it even though it isn't his fault.
I think his unique looks is what makes Sheamus big with kids. He looks like something out of a cartoon actually.
Oh, no. Damn it Kane! Retire already so I don't have to keep watching this crap!
Officerrob
Banned
Sheamus almost never gets any reaction during his promos though, that's a huge drawback
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Dinner at Cracker Barrel. A fair exchange!
Look at that kid wrap his arm around Kane, with no fear! Brave ass kid, man.
BoboBrazil
Member
He doesn't get a reaction because he's reading a horrible script full of stupid ass irish folklore jokes. Who would enjoy this shit? Did WWE forget you can be a top face without telling corny ass jokes? Not everyone has to be a Cena style face.
That's definitely true. Over the past 6 or so months, you can tell that the live crowds have been reacting to him more (excluding the after effects of WM28, which was no fault of his own) and he's connecting with a wider demographic (ie. kids) compared to before.
The promos that he's been cutting as a babyface have just been so brutal though. They really need to get away from the phony Irish folklore stuff and just try to let him be like he was as a heel. None of it sounds natural at all.
Agreed.
At the end of the day, I don't know if I can see Sheamus as THE guy, but at the same time, there's absolutely nothing wrong with him not being able to reach that point. Being one of the top guys in the company is nothing to sneeze at either, and I feel that Sheamus can achieve that at the very least.
Without the curtain call, Austin 3:16 isn't born.
The whole kliq thing probably influenced the conceptualization of the Outsiders/NWO, as well. Guys with a ton of sway and power and raw talent invading.
Without the screwjob, Mr McMahon isn't formed.
It's amazing how much of wrestling seems to have revolved around the actions of HBK and his pals.
Officerrob
Banned
It also doesn't help that his entire character revolves around his skin being pale
Don't be ridiculous. It revolves around him being Irish.
Professor Beef
Banned
But without Sheamus' irish stories, how else would I learn about Ireland? I'm not quite man enough to go to Ireland University.
cr_blah_blah
Member
Kane should come out and start putting Kane masks on little kids at ringside to make up for Big Show going heel and Rey not being around. Then he can evolve that to put his voice box thing and having them say suck it.
BoboBrazil
Member
Anyone want to call Sunny?
Mr. Enigma
Member
What are you getting at?
BoboBrazil
Member
If I provide the phone number, do you want to call her?
The whole show should just revolve around Kane. Kane should just randomly come out, grab a mic, and tell the crowd how his weekend was. Then, all the wrestlers and commentators should discuss it, and no matter what happens, Cole should just say, "I wonder what Kane has to say about that?" The main event should just be Kane sitting in the ring, reading a newspaper. Going by ratings data, that would draw huge.
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