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McDonald's plans to add Kiosks over the next two years

https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...better-sales-over-face-face-orders/681196002/
McDonald's plans to add touch-screen ordering kiosks to thousands of stores nationwide to supplement in-store employees, transforming America's largest fast-food chain.

Customers often buy more when ordering on a screen than when standing in front a worker at the counter because they tend to linger longer, the company found.“What we are finding is when people dwell more, they tend to select more," McDonald's CEO Steve Easterbrook told CNBC Monday. "So there is a little bit of an average check boost that comes with it.”

McDonald's will add kiosks to 1,000 stores every quarter — roughly 10 stores per day — over the next two years, Easterbrook told the network. And the U.S. is late to the game: Kiosks are already fully installed at stores in English-speaking markets such as the United Kingdom and Canada. France was the first country to introduce the self-serve machines.


But it's possible McDonald's will run into consumer resistance. A poll conducted by MSN found that 78% of customers are less likely to go into a restaurant that has a self-service kiosk. Even if it has the kiosks, most McDonald's restaurants still lets customers order at the counter.

Easterbrook hopes to have self-serve kiosks in all U.S. locations by 2020.

I had a glimpse of the McDonalds near my house today and saw the kiosk inside as they were renovating the whole place for like almost 2 or 3 weeks. I welcome this as I use the kiosks at target every single time.
 

jdforge

Banned
Yeah I’m a fan of the kiosks but since going keto McD’s isn’t really an option for me, unfortunately.

You’ve got to wonder though how long it’ll be before we have fully automated McD restaurants.
 

diablos991

Can’t stump the diablos
They need to fix their user interface.

I welcome the automation though. We absolutely don’t need to pay people to be fast food cashiers with today’s technology.
 

Gandara

Member
I just use the app to order everything as well as use their deals. They had kiosks at our Wendy's first but they seem to be down 1/2 the time. They added kiosks to McD last month. I just like to know if I'm getting over charged or if the extras are free or an additional cost. Still, you'll feel rushed when a line behind the kiosks form.
 
They need to fix their user interface.

I welcome the automation though. We absolutely don’t need to pay people to be fast food cashiers with today’s technology.

Ugh, you're in it for the quality of life improvements. "Don't need to pay", that doesn't benefit you, even if it gives you an ego boost.

And before you try to say prices, did you know that Mc Donalds could be significantly cheaper if they didn't allow credit card purchases too?
 
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They need to fix their user interface.

I welcome the automation though. We absolutely don’t need to pay people to be fast food cashiers with today’s technology.

I fear automation because a McDonald's job is really good for a lot of kids while they study, teaches them great values and gives them a bit of pocket money.
 

Moneal

Member
I fear automation because a McDonald's job is really good for a lot of kids while they study, teaches them great values and gives them a bit of pocket money.

That is the problem with the whole minimum wage increase issue. No one wants to pay highschoolers $15/hr flip burgers or take orders. The higher the minimum wage goes the worse it is for teens to get their first job. This is one area I think we should move toward the system Australia uses with a sliding scale based on age. While their national minimum wage is over $18/hr a 16 year old would get paid $10/hr for a minimum wage job. I am pretty sure its percentage based on the age, so at 16 its like 50% and goes up each year until 21 where it reaches 100%, and the pay of the full time minimum for the job.
 
That is the problem with the whole minimum wage increase issue. No one wants to pay highschoolers $15/hr flip burgers or take orders. The higher the minimum wage goes the worse it is for teens to get their first job. This is one area I think we should move toward the system Australia uses with a sliding scale based on age. While their national minimum wage is over $18/hr a 16 year old would get paid $10/hr for a minimum wage job. I am pretty sure its percentage based on the age, so at 16 its like 50% and goes up each year until 21 where it reaches 100%, and the pay of the full time minimum for the job.

This is fine.
 

black_13

Banned
This was gonna happen one way or the other and the minimum wage didn't effect this. Not like they are gonna reduce prices because you use the kiosk. Any company as big as Mcdonald's would want to increase profit every year. Even if minimum wage was $10/hour, they would still would have implemented such a system to save a significant amount of money.
I don't mind the kiosks though since less change I'll get a wrong order.
 

Dark Star

Member
automation is pretty cool but it's not really that needed.
service is already pretty fast at McDonalds

also, people actually need those jobs
mcdonalds/fast food cashier is a "first job" for many people who later manage in retail.
it's either a stepping stone for kids in highschool, or an actual job for someone who has kids to feed and needs 2-3 part time jobs.
 
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Dunki

Member
Honestly I like it. Only problem here is that you only can pay with a card most people do not have so they make their order on the Kiosk and then pay at a normal cashier. Also new at a certain amount I think over 5 euro they bring your order to the table. Which is kinda nice
 
That is the problem with the whole minimum wage increase issue. No one wants to pay highschoolers $15/hr flip burgers or take orders. The higher the minimum wage goes the worse it is for teens to get their first job. This is one area I think we should move toward the system Australia uses with a sliding scale based on age. While their national minimum wage is over $18/hr a 16 year old would get paid $10/hr for a minimum wage job. I am pretty sure its percentage based on the age, so at 16 its like 50% and goes up each year until 21 where it reaches 100%, and the pay of the full time minimum for the job.

Yes I live in Australia it's a good system. McDonalds and fast food jobs here are seen as a great way for kids to get to grips with what employers expect of them in the work force.
 
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Greedings

Member
Is this really a sign of the minimum wage issue?
Something tells me automation would be happening regardless of minimum wage.
 
The "Fight for $15" went as expected

Yep.

automation is pretty cool but it's not really that needed.
service is already pretty fast at McDonalds

also, people actually need those jobs
mcdonalds/fast food cashier is a "first job" for many people who later manage in retail.
it's either a stepping stone for kids in highschool, or an actual job for someone who has kids to feed and needs 2-3 part time jobs.

Also yep. No judgement of those who do, but I personally never use self-serve options whenever I can avoid it. It's putting people out of a job.
 
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TarNaru33

Banned
The "Fight for $15" went as expected

This isn't due to the "Fight for $15", this is due to automation becoming cheaper. This was always going to happen even if we decreased minimum wage. I swear some people just don't put on their thinking cap before posting.


Is this really a sign of the minimum wage issue?
Something tells me automation would be happening regardless of minimum wage.

Nope, it is not a sign of minimum wage being the issue, this is just a technology making certain jobs outdated/inefficient to have workers working it issue.
 
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bucyou

Member
This isn't due to the "Fight for $15", this is due to automation becoming cheaper. This was always going to happen even if we decreased minimum wage. I swear some people just don't put on their thinking cap before posting.




Nope, it is not a sign of minimum wage being the issue, this is just a technology making certain jobs outdated/inefficient to have workers working it issue.

Sure it was always going to happen, but you dont need a "thinking cap" to realize it was expedited due to the demands of the low skill worker. Leave your snark for the other place.
 

TarNaru33

Banned
Sure it was always going to happen, but you dont need a "thinking cap" to realize it was expedited due to the demands of the low skill worker. Leave your snark for the other place.

Expedited, based on what? lol

The technology became available, they find out it works well (where it doesn't negatively impact service), so they are switching to it. Has nothing to do with the demands being placed. Companies are going to turn to automation the moment the feel they can afford it and benefit from it, in general it has a hefty initial price tag and for certain industries require a bit of study to see what the effects will be.

Your post read as snark to those fighting for high living wages, so I responded in kind.
 

Sp3eD

0G M3mbeR
I went to one near me recently that had them and it was awful. Took like 5 minutes to successfully order 3 meals because the UI was just confusing. I’d rather just go to the counter tbh

To top it off it let me order lunch 15 minutes before it started so they had to come out and tell me I had to wait. Apparently that’s a “glitch”
 

Grinchy

Banned
automation is pretty cool but it's not really that needed.
service is already pretty fast at McDonalds

also, people actually need those jobs
mcdonalds/fast food cashier is a "first job" for many people who later manage in retail.
it's either a stepping stone for kids in highschool, or an actual job for someone who has kids to feed and needs 2-3 part time jobs.
If you had ever eaten at my location, you'd much rather have a robot making the food correctly than someone who hates you purposely doing a shitty job.
 
If you had ever eaten at my location, you'd much rather have a robot making the food correctly than someone who hates you purposely doing a shitty job.
yeah, I always worried if some dude spat in my burger. Though we are nowhere close to having robots flipping burgers just yet
 

Dunki

Member
yeah, I always worried if some dude spat in my burger. Though we are nowhere close to having robots flipping burgers just yet
Excuse me



I once saw a even more impressive video from a Japanese company but I forgot where I have seen it...
 
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BANGS

Banned
My local burger king has the kiosk. It's a double edged sword. On one hand, I prefer to enter my order myself properly rather than some minimum wage toolbag entering it wrong cause he's high on crack or whatever. But on the other hand, you get a bunch of idiots who don't understand how the kiosk works holding up the line in front of you. Then the say out loud "stupid kiosk i hate this thing" because they don't understand how to push their finger against the giant picture of a hamburger. And to make it worse, there's still a counter they can use if their extra chromosome is preventing them from handling the complicated task of pushing 3 buttons on a touch screen, but they don't go to the counter...

Dear god I hate the general public...

If robots prep all the food, does that mean I can finally eat Chik-fil-a on Sunday?
Not if robot Jesus has anything to say about it...
 
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manfestival

Member
I had a conversation with a few McDonalds operators that ran over 30 stores total. It was right after their major conference and they said on average people would spend a dollar more per transaction on kiosk vs regular store. I honestly prefer the kiosk option as there are usually no lines for them and I know I can get my order in before the 5 people standing in line. A win win overall for me. Also had some very interesting questions and answers from these operators(I do uber in my spare time so I often will come across very interesting individuals that will often come to town for conventions and etc since this area is literally vacation/convention heaven).
 
Interesting fact, in Norway there's no McDonalds above 64 degrees longitude N. But I'm pretty sure we have the world's most northern Burger King at 69 degrees longitude N. (In Tromsø, I've eaten there lots of times)
Anyways, on topic, kiosks are definitely a good idea for a lot of consumers as well, especially in Norway where we hate wasting time on social contact in stores. That said I can understand how it might impact teenagers looking to get a bit of work experience and earn some extra cash. That said, I'm more worried about low-education people (especially low-skill immigrants/asylum seekers) in regards to this problem. For most teenagers, I'm pretty sure there's many avenues still in Norway.
 

Petrae

Member
Kiosks are more efficient, cheaper, and don’t have the attitude/personality problems that humans have. It’s a win for management and for the consumer.
 

cryptoadam

Banned
That is the problem with the whole minimum wage increase issue. No one wants to pay highschoolers $15/hr flip burgers or take orders. The higher the minimum wage goes the worse it is for teens to get their first job. This is one area I think we should move toward the system Australia uses with a sliding scale based on age. While their national minimum wage is over $18/hr a 16 year old would get paid $10/hr for a minimum wage job. I am pretty sure its percentage based on the age, so at 16 its like 50% and goes up each year until 21 where it reaches 100%, and the pay of the full time minimum for the job.

Thats a very interesting take on things. Is there a lot of abuse of the system though? With business hiring younger people then they should to keep costs down?
 

rokkerkory

Member
That's kind of a silly thing to say. If you don't support McDonald's before this then of course they're gonna cut corners...

Ain't silly to me, they are moving further away from me supporting them in anyway. This just added to it.
 

VAL0R

Banned
Not if robot Jesus has anything to say about it...

I think so. I assume their view is to allow their human employees time off to rest and/or observe the Lord's Day on Sunday. Nobody cares about machines laboring on the Sabbath.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Automation is always good thing. Better service and creates more jobs. Everybody wins.

I'm not sure how a piece of tech whose entire purpose is to help cut costs associated with human workers is going to generate more jobs. It may create some more service jobs for those with the skills to repair and maintain said kiosks but its not like McDonald's is going to hire back everyone that the kiosks displace out of the goodness of their hearts.
 
You do know that if you use the atm rather than going to the bank then you're a virtue signalling hypocrite.
i don't think they are compatible. For the most part you an atm is used to deposit/withdraw cash, check your balance. While someone going into a bank might need to take a loan, get a mortgage, set up an account. Though I am not rokketary so i am not sure if he meant he doesn't like kiosks as it would replace the cashier.
 
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MoFuzz

Member
You do know that if you use the atm rather than going to the bank then you're a virtue signalling hypocrite.
Anecdotally, I can definitely say that using the ATM at the bank is faster than getting in what is sometimes a 20+ minute lineup for a teller.

Here in Canada, these machines have been in place at McD's for months now, and I can tell you with near certainty that the difference in speed is negligible. In fact, if we want to really get spicy, the people who order from an employee actually get out of the ordering line and get their food/drink faster in a lot of cases. This is admittedly a pretty low level experiment that I'm running here, but as someone who goes there a few times a week, this is definitely something that I pay attention to, regularly.

I guess my takeaway is that I'm not convinced that these self-serve kiosks (at McDonald's anyways) are actually any faster.
 
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Using coupons doesn't feel the same when they don't take your coupon away at the end.

Other than that, this looks like the new standard in making fast food even more efficient.
 
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