So if you can't pronounce something it must be bad for you? So silly. Well I'm a chemist and I can pronounce those words, so it's ok for me to eat it?
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McDonald's senior director of culinary innovation sees nothing unhealthy on menu
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So if you can't pronounce something it must be bad for you? So silly. Well I'm a chemist and I can pronounce those words, so it's ok for me to eat it?
MatthewB92
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Ever scene I went back to work in April I have had 2 mcdoubles and a medium fry 5 days a week for launch. Sometimes 6 times a week. Though I walk to and from work everyday which is about 3 or some miles all together and I'm fine. Not saying they are health because they aren't but people need to understand it's just easier to take 3 minutes to get mcdonalds then it is to go to a store, buy the stuff you need to make, and go back and make it. Lazy? Sure but who cares? It's up to me.
When it comes to eating healthy and exercising being blunt is pretty much all you can do in my expierence, because everyone always tip toes around these things and people don't break their routines.
ClassyPenguin
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That just makes you an asshole.
How about just offering advice without being all snobby about it.
Well, yeah. The other 87 meals of the week? I can probably guess: Taco Bell, KFC, Wendy's, Burger King, Chik-fil-a, Arby's, Pizza Hut, Papa John's, Dominoes, Chinese takeout, mac & cheese, TV dinners... It's a pervasive fast food culture that's the problem, and there's a lesson in that for the nation's work culture and economy as well.
Then nobody will take it seriously and take a look at themselves and how they eat.
I'm about to PM Sean for food tips for making quick lunches and breakfast because he seems pretty confident in what he's doing.
I have more hours in the day to do this and felt like I couldn't, so I want to know what I'm doing wrong.
ClassyPenguin
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home cooked meals can also be unhealthy, not just fast food.
I did offer advice and more bullshit gets thrown back.
Definitely mang, I'd help a CAG anytime
You're right, they can. What's your point?
ClassyPenguin
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Education is better than scapegoating.
Eating healthy takes a little more effort and with everybody and their mother offering conflicting diet fads, it can get a little overwhelming.
Eating healthy takes a little more effort and with everybody and their mother offering conflicting diet fads, it can get a little overwhelming.
Fads? I base my diet off of peer reviewed journal articles.
True too. The kids that got a plain baloney or PB&J sandwich every single day for lunch, how can it be healthy for them? Those kinds of eating habits that get formed at home early on in people's life should be a concern for parents.
sankt-Antonio
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Best thing to happen to me and my gf is the new thai fast food place that just opened up near us, they only use ingredients from a bio-farm (Herrmannsdorfer).
Best kind of fast food is high quality fast food. I don't even think about cooking after work anymore...
Best kind of fast food is high quality fast food. I don't even think about cooking after work anymore...
As a scientist this made me chuckle.
Ok?
I very much doubt you have much experience in Travelodges (ie. the only place my work will pay for) in England. No microwaves or fridges, for a fucking start.
Keep on with the pointless ideas.
radioheadrule83
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I'm inclined to agree with the guy, there's nothing inherently wrong with anything on the menu, as long as people know what they're eating and have an otherwise balanced diet. It's not McDonalds' fault if people gorge themselves on their food, is it?
I also suspect a lot of obesity comes from high sugar, high carb diets. People have too much soda and cheap snacks.
I also suspect a lot of obesity comes from high sugar, high carb diets. People have too much soda and cheap snacks.
MeBecomingI
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I suggest everyone watch the documentary Fat Head. Awesome film that really challenges a lot of the myths about fast food and Super Size Me. If not, read up on the film.
I think fast food is grossly misrepresented. I think a lot of people like to simply link the industry with obesity and the promotion of unhealthy food because they need to put blame on anyone but themselves and as a result, the fast food industry becomes the enemy. That isn't to say fast food is completely healthy, but you can get by just fine eating fast food if you just control your eating habits and not sit on your ass 24/7.
I think fast food is grossly misrepresented. I think a lot of people like to simply link the industry with obesity and the promotion of unhealthy food because they need to put blame on anyone but themselves and as a result, the fast food industry becomes the enemy. That isn't to say fast food is completely healthy, but you can get by just fine eating fast food if you just control your eating habits and not sit on your ass 24/7.
Then pay the premium to stay at a better hotel. Your health is worth it.
I'd wager they'd have no issue with you paying the difference?
If you actually care about your health, you find a way.
You can get protein powder without all the nasties in it though.
Why the hell would I, when I have bills to pay and a kid to support?
Gah. Accomodation with a fridge and a microwave isn't exactly common. I can't say I've ever heard of one, and it's bound to be pricey.
Because you have a kid, and you'd like to be healthy enough to stick around for them for a long time?
Hotels with a fridge is rare over there? Sorry, in the USA even Econolodge, the bare minimum in chains, offers that much. That's nuts to me.
Devolution
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I like the "it's only unhealthy if you eat it too much" stuff in here. What.
There's a certain amount of truth to it. Most things are ok in moderation. Healthy isn't based on any one thing you do, it's the net effect of all the things you do. McDonald's occasionally when the rest of your diet is healthy, isn't going to make you unhealthy.
I think the biggest barrier to my eating healthy is that I just know so little about food and cooking that it's hard to find a place to start. My dad was the main cook when I was a kid and he didn't want to put up with my whining so he just made some sort of pasta all the time. Now, it's hard for me to know what to eat, especially since I haven't built up an association with the foods most people like. I'm slowly getting better, but it's hard when I don't know a damn thing about how to cook and how to shop appropriately for ingredients and things. Laziness is a big factor in this stuff, I know, but it's hard to ask for help in this case, especially when I haven't a clue what I would like.
And I'm not saying people shouldn't get any of the blame, but god damn if those food companies don't design their meals to activate the reward system in your brain more effectively than traditional food. You don't have to be happy with their choices, but don't reinforce the negative way they probably already feel about themselves.
And Fat Head is a terrible documentary.
And I'm not saying people shouldn't get any of the blame, but god damn if those food companies don't design their meals to activate the reward system in your brain more effectively than traditional food. You don't have to be happy with their choices, but don't reinforce the negative way they probably already feel about themselves.
And Fat Head is a terrible documentary.
Just start experimenting. If you go into the weight loss thread people will help.
High protein and vegetable meals are a great way to start eating healthy.
Devolution
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I'd say it's always unhealthy but you can do healthy stuff to counter balance it.
Well, another barrier is that I have Crohn's disease and am not supposed to eat too much rough foods like raw fruits and vegetables.
Ouch dude, try and get them to change over to Premier Inns. Not much more, but certainly worth it IMO.
Hotel rooms in the US must be so much bigger than in Europe, why the fuck would you need a microwave :lol.
be a true american. get both
It's pretty true. The worst thing you can do to your body is flood it with excess energy. Overeating pretty much anything (with carbs and/or fat) will lead to a whole host of negative physiological effects: insulin resistance, inflammation, hypercholesterolemia, hypertriglyceridemia, etc.
Take pringles: glucose and fat and some other shit that doesn't matter. They're shitty nutritionally and have virtually no protein, but eating a small stack of pringles is probably just fine for your body. It can easily deal with the glucose and fat in a small quantity. The problem? Some people tend to be prone to overconsuming highly processed foods. Some don't. If you can't control your appetite when eating poor quality foods, then it's best to avoid them. If you can, then eating small quantities of poor quality foods is probably not going to cause any harm.
The one caveat: AVOID PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED VEGETABLE OILS AT ALL COSTS
Shouta
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You see, that's where this entire argument kind of butts heads. Eating healthy and eating healthy while enjoying it are completely different things. That's the real challenge in eating healthy.
You can eat healthy in a short amount of time, skinless chicken breast and steamed veggies don't really take much time. A simple salad with a few things on top, etc. However, it's nowhere near delicious as something that takes time to cook.
I mean, if you are eating simply because you need the energy to keep going, then it suffices. If you enjoy the flavors of food, the variety of dishes, and the vast number cooking styles, then eating healthy is difficult. That's why the folks trumpeting healthy eating as simple and fast can be irksome, a lot people that say that often go on about very uninteresting meals.
Infinite_Daremo
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No. Just no.
Devolution
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I've never had a problem eating healthy and still eating good tasting food.
The argument is a busy schedule doesn't give you an excuse to eat like shit, not that all meals have to be prepped quickly.
Zoe
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In 5 minutes?
Shouta
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If you have time, certainly. For busier people who can't though, it can be difficult. For the cooking impaired, it can be quite challenging too.
Devolution
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How many people really run on 5 minutes when they could stop posting on a forum or playing a game and just eat a damn meal. If they don't have 5 minutes that day, the time they do have could be spent making a larger meal that they can make leftovers out of.
You can still eat pretty healthy with just a microwave at your disposal as long as you are heating up meats, rice, veggies and not frozen dinners.
Extra Sauce
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How do you cook a healthy meal in 5 minutes? Give me examples of what those meals are.
I'm not trying to get you, I genuinely want to know because I hate sacrificing my free time to cook yet I love to eat healthy.
Devolution
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Cook for two. Have leftovers.
Easily the biggest hump for me when learning to make healthy and delicious meals was the fact I had no idea what the fuck I was doing in the kitchen. It took me months and many failures to actually be able to make some delicious food easily. Once I got the hang of using spices and testing out what works with what, life became easy. But for awhile it was a disaster...
ClassyPenguin
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if you live in a dorm, yes. If not just use a pan.
Devolution
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I was cooking before I left home but my mom sent me a nice book.
Link.
It's got a lot of nice info, introductory type recipes and it's easy to follow.
Yeah, I normally just put stuff in oven then microwave some veg or rice.
HappyBivouac
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Ate McDonalds twice a week on average last summer, lost 35 pounds in 2.5 months on that diet and stayed fit just from being semi active. Most of my exercise was teaching 7 hours of summer English classes to Chinese elementary school students and keeping them engaged.
indigo-cyclops
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Maybe I'm remembering wrong but in Super Size Me didn't he work out? If you have to eat fast food on occasion, maybe a few times a month, that's probably fine if you are conscious of what you're getting, but it's not healthy food. It's not quality food. The misrepresentation is companies claiming they are healthy.
Um more like if it's got such a complicated or strange name it's probably a chemical of some kind therefore not meant to be in your body.
Fun fact: Everything is made out of chemicals, and just because organic nomenclature can be long and convoluted doesn't make it somehow worse for you.
I'd much rather eat some (2R,3S,4R,5R)-2,3,4,5,6-Pentahydroxyhexanal then arsenic trioxide, even though it's harder to say!
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