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Media Create Sales 10/8 - 10/14 2007
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
- Start date
Really?cbjars said:
This week Top 30:
Wii - 5
PS3 - 1
360 - 1
Last Week:
Wii - 5
PS3 - 1
360 - 0
2 Weeks ago:
Wii - 6
PS3 - 2
360 - 1
I don't know. The past month has been slow, but this is a traditionally slow period for Japan anyway. Looking at the big picture, the next-gen home console market is positioned quite closely with last gen in terms of hardware at this time. The X360 and XBox were both pretty much irrelevant, the PS3 is tracking quite closely with the Gamecube, and the Wii is tracking quite closely with the PS2. Obviously the swap in positions between Nintendo and Sony is a big change, but the total numbers are matching up quite well at this point.GDJustin said:
The real difference isn't how the home console market is performing, but how much stronger the portable market has become.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
It is, but it also makes for a good cautionary tale about watching for warning signs and heeding your customers' demands, not having the customer suffer yours.GDJustin said:
AdventureRacing
Member
Im not that surprised by Lair, 22K isn't exactly huge sales. Fair enough it made the top ten but that isn't really that impressive. I think this game cops a lot more flak than it deserves.
Phife Dawg
Member
Pretty low week all around. Seeing Lair in the Top 10 is funny but it'll be out of the Top 10 or maybe even the Top 30 next week.
Very interesting and impressive indeed. Too bad all these games never make it to the west.ethelred said:
Dark Ninja
Member
:lol Lair
Moor-Angol
Banned
Cheesemeister said:
get used to see this game in the chart for many, many weeks
BrokenSymmetry
Member
duckroll said:
If you go to pgrnations.com, you can see that there have been 6,892 japanese online players for PGR4. The actual number of sold copies is probably quite a bit higher, and the number is not at all bad, since currently there are 26,399 US players and 33,381 UK players that have played PGR4 online.
titiklabingapat
Member
How representative is TGS of the Japanese gaming market? Didn't Nights have some of the longest lines during the show?
Magicpaint
Member
Are those published by Nintendo?duckroll said:
Magicpaint
Member
Well 
Very true. This is something that baffles me. It seems that Nintendo forgot during the Gamecube era how to market a hardcore game. Now, they have been great at selling non games and the like, but it is as if they are completely uncappable of marketing hardcore games properly, even their stablished franchises. Yes, they sell well, but well, that's expected. Their marketing have been horrendous.
No preview channel for MP3 in Europe, the complete lack of hype building for any title (Batallion wars, for example), their hermetism in everything, the shoehorning of people playing with a "weee" expression on ads like Crossbow trainning or Mario Galaxy... an advertising formula that works for one product doesn't necessarily will work for another different one, but they don't seems to get it. The only hardcore game that they have been able to market properly is Smash Bross, and that probably have more to do with Sakurai handing the whole project.
MrSardonic
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_Alkaline_
Member
Wii is sucking major ass in Japan right now.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
PS2 Dragon Ball Z: Sparking! Meteor comparison...
Code:
/ MediaCreate Famitsu Dengeki
Week 1 204k 161k 204k
Week 2 47k 53k ---
LTD 251k 214k ---twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
... but PGR4 is #25, so it's all good.donny2112 said:
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
These sales are low and boring.
Pureauthor
Member
GDJustin said:
The rise of handhelds cannot be stopped!
charlequin
Banned
Ikael said:
Did they ever know? There's an audience of gamers, weaned on Nintendo consoles but carried into adulthood and beyond on PlayStations, who probably line up pretty closely with what we mean when we say "hardcore" -- I don't think Nintendo has ever, even once, successfully marketed something to this demographic.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
ThirdEye said:
Wii audience is waiting for Super Mario Galaxy. Massively waiting.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
what happens after they're done waiting? are they done playing with the wii?
I must be casual then, because I bought all the consoles. :lolethelred said:
Seriously though, being "hardcore" is not about console preference but about how big of a hobby videogames is for you. To be perfectly honest though I'm not that fond of the term to begin with, I just dislike elitism concerning videogame preference.
Edit: Master of stealth edits indeed.
charlequin
Banned
Jokeropia said:
I really need to remember not to use the word "hardcore" on GAF because people have so many stupid misconceptions about the "hardcore"/"casual" split on here but pretty much, yes. PS2 was such a dominant system in all genres that anyone who didn't own one (or play its games on another system) really can't be considered a "hardcore" gamer at all.
That's all really beside my point, though. In America and Japan the hardcore markets are defined by very different genres, but most of them are currently genres that came into their own on PlayStation hardware. Sony's got a long history of working to successfully market 3d action games, realistic driving simulators, marquee jRPGs, modern sandbox games, etc., both from their internal studios and key 3rd parties; Nintendo has never developed games in many of these genres and hasn't ever had call to push them on the market.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Jokeropia said:
the point is that if there's always gonna be a "big game from Nintendo" on the horizon, and if they're not buying any other games and always waiting for it, that's going to be a detrimental habit to have in your userbase that needs to change.