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Media Create Sales 11/19 - 11/25 2007
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Phife Dawg
Member
Well they were talking about games. Surely you can't compare the situation of SB on Wii and PS2 with the situation of Wii hardware vs PS3 hardware?kay said:
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Famitsu PS2 hardware from weeks of games' launches... though really this isn't nearly as helpful as I'd hoped, due to the wildly varying circumstances and times of year having their own effects.kay said:
Gran Turismo 3, week of 2001-04-22: Unfortunately hard to say, as it's two weeks combined to make 148,320. Doesn't seem much up from the 66Ks and 72K of the previous three weeks.
Hot Shots Golf 3, week of 2001-07-23: 103,263. This is actually down from 156K the previous week, when FFX released.
Hot Shots Golf 4, week of 2003-11-24: 94,328
Gran Turismo 4, week of 2004-12-27: 196,480
That would be good. Since in the last few weeks I've started putting the new Famitsu software info in my database, I've been using your version of the names for most of the new games. Until they're available I temporarily stick in the awful Babelfished results, leading to things like these...donny2112 said:
21. God 2 Metropolitan Police case file software
22. DANJONEKUSUPURORA covenant door
23. ANATAWOYURUSANAI
EDIT: Though I do sort of enjoy "Armored Cavalry Bottoms" more than "Soukou Kihei Votoms".
kisakiproject
Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Nice for Assassin's creed, when does the ps3 one hit japan? Weak for GG and Pangya 2.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I'm very happy for Layton. I wonder if this time it will breat the million mark.
Innotech said:
Publishers sell to retailers, so what sells to the consumer is not an accurate picture of what the publisher has earned from the title. Also, sometimes we don't see titles that sell below the top 30 and guess they don't sell anymore but that isn't entirely true. I'm always surprised by how much a title actually sold compared ot its first week. Some of them do lose moeny ofcourse, or they make money but a waste of time for the development resources. I think a lot of the Trainer DS games have a very low budget though, below the 100k dollars.
Obaid said:
Maybe it's coming out a few weeks later, like Oblivion?
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the 360 version outsold the ps3 one, because that's excatly what happened with Oblivion in Japan (360 owners like Western games, even in Japan confirmed?). Yeah, different release dates and stuff, apples and oranges, etc...
Xisiqomelir
Member
webshark said:
Another refugee? :lol
Welcome to GAF.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
jj984jj said:
Agreed. But I also remember that the DS before Brain Training was somehow similar. Maybe it is just an impression, but the first games that came out on DS outside Nintendogs and Jump Superstars (this last is comparable with Dragon Quest Swords) sold less then expected and many bombed horribly (Yoshi's Touch and Go, Another Code, Pac Pix, Harvest Moon DS, Egg Monster Heroes, Kirby's Canvas Curse, Naruto 3, Bomberman DS, SD Gundam, Pachi-Slot, Naruto RPG 2,.....).
And remember that at first, even Nintendogs and Brain Training sold very slowly, but they sold for years.
I'm not trying to say that Wii is DS or bullshits like that: just noticed some similarities and I wonder if Wii Fit could really be the "Brain Training" of the Wii. Maybe at first it will not sell much (not millions), but its lastability is what really matters at the end.
ComputerNerd
Banned
slaughterking said:
Holy shit. They really are charging for the original, and the expansion, separately. Yet bundling them together. Odd...
ComputerNerd
Banned
kay said:
Not sure how it is in Japan, but here in the US, a $10 difference is quite a bit smaller than a $30-$40 difference.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Mmm, if I'm not mistaken this is Wii 52nd week on the market so.... JoshuaJSlone, can you do a comparison between top10 best selling 3rd party games on PS2, PS3 and Wii for their first year? I saw one at 2ch but I don't really trust charts coming from someone I don't know.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
On the Assasin's Creed matter, the PS3 version will be released on January, the 31th. Yes, the same day as DMC4 and Disgaea 3.
http://www.ubisoft.co.jp/assassinscreed/ps3/index.html
Btw, some might remember similar case with Call of Duty 4 (being scheduled for PS3 and not for X360). Well, not anymore, both versions will be released on 12/27.
I have updated my list with such news:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8379282&postcount=454
11/29 was crazy...but 12/6 looks even better, we should push MC in a NPD way to force them to give us numbers for top30 or something (scratch that, push Famitsu for top50).
http://www.ubisoft.co.jp/assassinscreed/ps3/index.html
Btw, some might remember similar case with Call of Duty 4 (being scheduled for PS3 and not for X360). Well, not anymore, both versions will be released on 12/27.
I have updated my list with such news:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8379282&postcount=454
11/29 was crazy...but 12/6 looks even better, we should push MC in a NPD way to force them to give us numbers for top30 or something (scratch that, push Famitsu for top50).
Phife Dawg
Member
360 is a viable plattform for western style games in Japan.Crusade said:
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I'm not JoshuaJSlone, but I can give you what I've got. I'm actually two weeks short on Wii compared to the other two.
PS2:
1. PS2 Onimusha: Warlords - 756,416 (20010304)
2. PS2 Ridge Racer V - 611,507 (20001231)
3. PS2 Gekikuukan Pro Baseball: The End of the Century 1999 - 482,061 (20001231)
4. PS2 Tekken Tag Tournament - 457,339 (20001231)
5. PS2 Kessen - 363,277 (20001231)
6. PS2 Dead or Alive 2 - 341,363 (20001231)
7. PS2 The Bouncer - 325,217 (20010218)
8. PS2 Kidou Senshi Gundam - 313,695 (20010225)
9. PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 7 - 313,628 (20001231)
10. PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou - 302,101 (20001231)
PS3:
1. PS3 Gundam Musou - 277,582 (20070701)
2. PS3 Shin Sangoku Musou 5 - 176,180 (20071111)
3. PS3 Ridge Racer 7 - 133,991 (20070325)
4. PS3 Gundam: Target in Sight - 131,111 (20070325)
5. PS3 Bladestorm - 103,731 (20070923)
6. PS3 Virtua Fighter 5 - 89,146 (20070701)
7. PS3 Armored Core 4 - 80,813 (20070325)
8. PS3 Ninja Gaiden Sigma - 53,150 (20070624)
9. PS3 Enchanted Arms - 35,790 (20070325)
10. PS3 Need for Speed: Carbon - 34,921 (20070325)
WII:
1. WII Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors - 453,445 (20070826)
2. WII Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo - 157,784 (20070701)
3. WII Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles - 104,960 (20071118)
4. WII Ennichi no Tatsujin - 104,524 (20070701)
5. WII Naruto: Shippuuden Gekitou Ninja Taisen! EX - 97,123 (20070701)
6. WII One Piece: Unlimited Adventure - 95,203 (20070701)
7. WII Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition - 88,367 (20070701)
8. WII Jikkyou Power Pro Baseball Wii - 72,388 (20070805)
9. WII Bleach: Shattered Blade - 68,728 (20070325)
10. WII Aim!! Fishing Master - 66,278 (20070701)
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Famitsu being a week behind MC, the data I've got online only goes through 51 weeks. However, for purposes of a list here I can add in the early Famitsu data; only Umbrella Chronicles should be different.Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Total PS2 software through week 52
Total PS3 software through week 52
Total Wii software through week 51
Comparing PS3/Wii and PS2 by a specific week count will always be a bit wonky. PS3/Wii got a holiday season first by basically launching into it, but PS2 got the first holiday season with a multi-million userbase stocked up. If we redo this comparison 10 weeks down the line, PS3/Wii will have grown a lot more than PS2. Also, some of the PS3/Wii games should be higher now, but we won't know how much they've grown until the yearly top 100/500. BUT, as things stand for now...
PS2 top 10 third party releases through week 52
1. Onimusha (Capcom) 737K
2. Ridge Racer V (Namco) 612K
3. Gekikuukan Pro Baseball: At the End of the Century 1999 (Square) 482K
4. Tekken Tag Tournament (Namco) 457K
5. Kessen (Koei) 363K
6. Dead or Alive 2 (Tecmo) 341K
7. The Bouncer (Square) 325K
8. Mobile Suit Gundam (Bandai) 314K
9. Power Pro Baseball 7 (Konami) 314K
10. Dynasty Warriors 2 (Koei) 302K
Sony software wasn't exactly lighting up the charts. Their highest game was... Fantavision at 17th place, with 173K sold.
PS3 top 10 third party releases through week 52
1. Dynasty Warriors Gundam (Bandai Namco) 278K
2. Ridge Racer 7 (Bandai Namco) 134K
3. Mobile Suit Gundam: Target in Sight (Bandai Namco) 131K
4. Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War (Koei) 104K
5. Virtua Fighter 5 (Sega) 89K
6. Armored Core 4 (From Software) 81K
7. Ninja Gaiden Sigma (Tecmo) 53K
8. Enchanted Arms (From Software) 36K
9. Need for Speed: Carbon (Electronic Arts) 35K
10. Pro Baseball Spirits 4 (Konami) 34K
Wii top 10 third party releases through week 52
1. Dragon Quest Swords (Square Enix) 453K
2. Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (Bandai Namco) 158K
3. Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (Capcom) 134K
4. Ennichi no Tatsujin (Bandai Namco) 105K
5. Naruto Shippuuden: Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX (Tomy) 97K
6. One Piece: Unlimited Adventure (Bandai Namco) 95K
7. Resident Evil 4: Wii edition (Capcom) 88K
8. Power Pro Baseball Wii (Konami) 72K
9. Bleach: Shattered Blade (Sega) 69K
10. Fishing Master (Hudson) 66K
BONUS
DS top 10 third party releases through week 52
1. Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop (Bandai) 402K
2. Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 (Tomy) 174K
3. Naruto RPG 2: Chidori vs Rasengan (Tomy) 90K
4. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (Capcom) 82K
5. Pac-Pix (Namco) 75K
6. SD Gundam G Generation DS (Bandai) 73K
7. Egg Monster Hero (Square Enix) 72K
8. Power Pocket Koushien (Konami) 66K
9. Harvest Moon DS (Marvelous Interactive) 59K
10. Yu-Gi-Oh! Nightmare Troubadour (Konami) 58K
PSP top 10 third party releases through week 52
1. Dynasty Warriors (Koei) 231K
2. Ridge Racers (Namco) 228K
3. World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 (Konami) 182K
4. Tales of Eternia (Namco) 155K
5. Nou Ryoku Trainer Portable (Sega) 149K
6. Monster Hunter Freedom (Capcom) 118K
7. Metal Gear Acid (Konami) 82K
8. Mahjong Kakutou Club (Konami) 74K
9. Gundam Battle Tactics (Bandai) 63K
10. Kotoba no Puzzle Mojipittan Daijiten (Namco) 62K
Moor-Angol
Banned
I want to see the lines for Wii Fit !!!!!
no lines ?????
booooooo, nintendo is dooooomed!!!!!
no lines ?????
booooooo, nintendo is dooooomed!!!!!
Pureauthor
Member
Phife Dawg said:
Define 'viable'.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Thanks donny, Joshua! My poor 3rd parties, only DQS would have been on the PS2 top10 
Definitely there was something weird with the 2ch chart, like Onimusha at >1m or including Resistance and Motorstorm. If someone still wants to see it go here:
http://ex23.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1196412379/
and look for TAG or post #140
Definitely there was something weird with the 2ch chart, like Onimusha at >1m or including Resistance and Motorstorm. If someone still wants to see it go here:
http://ex23.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1196412379/
and look for TAG or post #140
Moor-Angol
Banned
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
wow, Power Pro Baseball and RE4Wii are on 130k, Gundam Sensen 0079 over 100k
top100 2007 will be very interesting.... uhm, no, top500 will be interesting cause top100 will be over 150k and more
Re: first day sales...
Awwww, poor Pangya 2.
As someone that enjoyed Pangya 1 quite a bit despite its rather ho-hum quality and strange artstyle I mourn these first-day numbers. 3K is a bit... meh.
I'm guessing it's the curse of the first game (Burn me once, shame on me,...).
On the other hand, there are only so many golf games you can sell to the market in any given timeframe, regardless of quality.
JoshuaJSlone, thanks for the 3rd party comparison. I may not like what I see, but it's awesome to have that comparison.
Awwww, poor Pangya 2.
As someone that enjoyed Pangya 1 quite a bit despite its rather ho-hum quality and strange artstyle I mourn these first-day numbers. 3K is a bit... meh.
I'm guessing it's the curse of the first game (Burn me once, shame on me,...).
On the other hand, there are only so many golf games you can sell to the market in any given timeframe, regardless of quality.
JoshuaJSlone, thanks for the 3rd party comparison. I may not like what I see, but it's awesome to have that comparison.
Just commenting on Wii Naruto first day..didn't the games do much better on GC?
Oh and the numbers for Basara Heroes..wow..I think developers need to get smart and release the Wii game earlier or either not make a Ps2 version.
You are exactly right. If they release them together people will buy the Ps3 version instead of the 360 version. This is exactly what has happened to Basara Heroes on Ps2 and Wii.
Oh and the numbers for Basara Heroes..wow..I think developers need to get smart and release the Wii game earlier or either not make a Ps2 version.
Innotech said:
You are exactly right. If they release them together people will buy the Ps3 version instead of the 360 version. This is exactly what has happened to Basara Heroes on Ps2 and Wii.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Pureauthor said:
It's first day was comparable to the first week for Heavenly Sword and God of War 2?
Different genres, but still, it has half the userbase.
of course, that's not quite fair given that the ps2 was the successor to the ps1, while the wii is the successor to the gamecube. comparing second year sales will be more interesting, as everyone (ie: publishers) have had a bit of time to survey the new landscape.schuelma said:
schuelma said:
i do think occasionally (thankfully) quality games sell better than shite, and the third party wii situation isn't smellin' of roses quite yet.
i also think that it's overly optimistic to think that wii game sales in the first few years are going to match what the ps2 did given the target markets involved, but the first year comparison is bad on several levels.
Even though its true that comparisons could be drawn between wii and ps2 first 52 weeks for 1st party games, it is also disingenious not to draw some parallels with DS. Id even venture to say it may be even more logical to do a wii--->ds 3rd party comparison at this point. If you do that, then the next 12 months would be very telling as to wheter or not wii can mimic the success story that is DS within development houses other than nintendo.
birdchili said:
i do think occasionally (thankfully) quality games sell better than shite, and the third party wii situation isn't smellin' of roses quite yet.
i also think that it's overly optimistic to think that wii game sales in the first few years are going to match what the ps2 did given the target markets involved, but the first year comparison is bad on several levels.
Your right, the Wii didn't have a chance of getting the big third party games initially. The only thing Nintendo could do is innovate and expand there gaming audiance and hope for the best. They succeeded and now they can talk with third parties. Would have been hard to do so if they didn't have the sales to back it up.
http://okatuku.ciao.jp/diary/diary.html - What's Okamoto saying about Wii Fit? Already in stores?
