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[Kurosaki Ichigo]

WKC 1st day - 132k
Rogue Galaxy 1st day - 142k

WKC 1st week - 203k
Rogue Galxy 1st week - 213k

Crisis Core - 470k -> 133k
Dissidia - 504k -> 157k

 

[RJT]

That's a pretty good performance by Biohazard. Should outsell Zero, which makes sense considering how much less REmake sold than Zero back on the GC.

You know, I'm gonna hate Capcom is after all of the Resident Evil tests on Wii they don't release a RE4-2 or a RE5 spinoff taking full advantage of the wiimote...

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Disappointing and bomba are two different things. we`ll see what kind of legs it will have on the DS...

Eh given first day figures...
[NDS] Phantasy Star Zero (Sega) - 63,000 (31%)

With ~200k shipped first day, 63k sold that day and just 86k for the week, it doesn't look that good. Either it picks up or expect to see it on the bargain bins soon.

 

[Mr.Wuggles]

i wonder why PS0 had such a poor opening... it was pretty heavily advertised. maybe the monster hunter-like game community just doesn't belong on the DS.

 

[cvxfreak]

You know, I'm gonna hate Capcom is after all of the Resident Evil tests on Wii they don't release a RE4-2 or a RE5 spinoff taking full advantage of the wiimote...

Next up is Outbreak. After Monster Hunter G (and the great sales of RE0/REmake Wii), I can't exactly doubt the possibility now. I just hope they put File 1 and 2 into one package if they decided to go through with it.

 

[deepbrown]

AND White Knight Chronicles comes out in the lead in CHRISTMAS SALES BATTLE.

1. PS3 White Knight Chronicles: 203,000
2. DS Animal Crossing City folk: 168,000 / 895,000
3. DS Kirby Super Star Ultra - 159,000 | 855,000
4. PSP Dissidia Final Fantasy - 157,000 | 666,000
5. DS Wagamama Fashion - 120,000 | 549,000

Phantasy star zero did 86,000 which is pretty poor compared to PSP first week (342,000) performance.

DS Pokemon Monster Rancher 94,000
DS Rhythm Tengoku Gold - 93,000
Wii Fit - 80,000
Mario Kart Wii - 74,000
DS Momotarou Dentetsu: 20th Anniversary - 58,000 | 122,000
DS Professor Layton and the Last Time Travel - 57,000 | 628,000
Wii Music - 53,000 | 324,000
DS Little Magician's Adventure - 53,000 | 233,000
WII JOYSOUND Karaoke - 52,000 | 115,000
Wii Sports - 52,000
DS Animal Crossing - 34,000


Pikmin - 48,000
Biohazard - 24,000

RIZ-ZOAWED - 2500 (cry)


Hardware -
DS+ 275,000
DSI - 218,000
DSLITE - 57,000
wii - 162,000
PSP -120,000
PS3 - 48,000
XBOX 360 - 13,000

Top Three PS3 Opening weeks

1. Metal Gear solid 4: 476,000
2. Devil May cry 4 212,000
3. White Night Chronicles: 203,000

Week starting 22nd to 29th? And is Christmas a holiday in Japan? When does Media Create release their numbers?

 

[BishopLamont]

Looks like Dissidia is gonna breeze past CC, no?

Also go Girls Mode, I have no idea why but I feel the need to root for that title

Ok with the new Famitsu data, Dissidia on its second week is already beating CC's third week. A million is highly likely here if things go well.

Week starting 22nd to 29th? And is Christmas a holiday in Japan? When does Media Create release their numbers?

Not a public holiday, but it's the shopping season. MC data will come tomorrow.

 

[bttb]

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[cw_sasuke]

Haha@Inazuma 11....keep selling :-D

 

[cvxfreak]

__. [WII] BioHazard (Capcom) - 24,000 / NEW
__. [NDS] BioHazard: Deadly Silence, New Best Price! 2000 (Capcom) - 3,500 / NEW

 

[Magicpaint]

30. [NDS] Gensou Suikoden Tierkreis (Konami) - 27,000 / 90,000

Not sure what Konami expected from this (and it certainly isn't doing nearly as well as mainline titles) but if it can reack 100k (which it should), then that's not a bad showing at all.

And Inazuma Eleven just refuses to die down.

Tales of Heart @ 177k is very disappointing and it seems like it won't be doing muchbetter than the previous DSgames :/

 

[BishopLamont]

Haha@Inazuma 11....keep selling :-D

I'm so happy for IE, for an RPG released 5 months ago, it's shown good legs and has built a respectable LTD for a new IP. More DS love please Level-5.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Not sure what Konami expected from this (and it certainly isn't doing nearly as well as mainline titles) but if it can reack 100k (which it should), then that's not a bad showing at all.

Suikoden V sold under 200K LTD i think - and with legs the DS Spin-off will probably reach 150K, i can`t imagine Konami expecting more than that

I'm so happy for IE, for an RPG released 5 months ago, it's shown good legs and has built a respectable LTD for a new IP. More DS love please Level-5.

Yep, and it`s actually an awesome game too - which helps :-D
Nice 2 see, a new IP like this outselling older ips like tales or suikoden...

 

[t3nmilez]

__. [PS2] Pachitte Chonmage Tatsujin 15: Pachinko Fuyu no Sonata 2 (Hack Berry) - 27,000 / NEW

wtf? Who buys this shit? It's a bloody crime that a pachinko game on the ps2 can still sell this well, these games are so awful!

 

[Mr.Wuggles]

how much did Vesperia sell in Japan total?

i hope Hearts does at least better than the Eternia PSP port, but that doesn't look likely.

 

[Laguna]

Not sure what Konami expected from this (and it certainly isn't doing nearly as well as mainline titles) but if it can reack 100k (which it should), then that's not a bad showing at all.

And Inazuma Eleven just refuses to die down.

Tales of Heart @ 177k is very disappointing and it seems like it won't be doing muchbetter than the previous DSgames :/

Here some numbers for reference

suikoden gaiden 1 - 71k ltd
suikoden gaiden 2 - 41k ltd
suikoden tactics - 64k ltd
suikoden gba - 7k ltd

 

[BishopLamont]

how much did Vesperia sell in Japan total?

i hope Hearts does at least better than the Eternia PSP port, but that doesn't look likely.

Famitsu: 140,342 as of 2008-09-08.

 

[Rpgmonkey]

01. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles (SCE) - 203,000 / NEW

Considering how pretty much every other console RPG has done, pretty impressive (I think?).

04. [PSP] Dissidia Final Fantasy (Square Enix) - 157,000 / 660,000

Still staying pretty strong.

25. [NDS] Tales of Hearts: Anime Movie & CG Movie (Bandai Namco) - 35,000 / 177,000

Already outdid Vesperia at least (not that that was really that hard of a task...). Would be nice if managed to outdo the other two DS games and Symphonia KoR, it deserves that much.

The year long gap that could be between Hearts' release and the release of the Wii Tales might be a good thing really...

 

[DieH@rd]

maybe we will see Dissidia selling 1mil in JAP...

 

[BishopLamont]

Oh ya and remember how everyone called Nintendo crazy (ok slight exaggeration here :lol) for shipping so much Animal Crossing? Well the first shipment is gone now. Time for retailers to order more.

 

[cw_sasuke]

I wonder what will be the first 3rd Party Mio Seller on a Homeconsole this Gen. No 360 Game for sure. On Ps3 FF13 at least. For Wii... hmm...

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Dissidia is a beast
looks like SE have found safe ground developing for the PSP

 

[Stumpokapow]

Considering how pretty much every other console RPG has done, pretty impressive (I think?).

assuming you limit it to console, yes, this would be the second-highest RPG debut this generation.

 

[Minsc]

Nice sales for WKC, but I wonder how does a 200K opening week for a RPG stack up against other RPGs released this year, on both the PS3 alone and all the systems?

Edit: Seems half my question has just been answered.

 

[Paracelsus]

assuming you limit it to console, yes, this would be the second-highest RPG debut this generation.

Second-highest? Which one is the first?

 

[deepbrown]

Nice sales for WKC, but I wonder how does a 200K opening week for a RPG stack up against other RPGs released this year, on both the PS3 alone and all the systems?

Edit: Seems half my question has just been answered.

3 days too...

 

[John Dunbar]

01. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles (SCE) - 203,000 / NEW

Evidence piles up that only first party games sell on the PS3.

 

[RpgN]

01. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles (SCE) - 203,000 / NEW
02. [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) - 168,000 / 895,000
04. [PSP] Dissidia Final Fantasy (Square Enix) - 157,000 / 660,000
05. [NDS] Wagamama Fashion: Girl's Mode (Nintendo) - 120,000 / 549,000
08. [NDS] Phantasy Star Zero (Sega) - 86,000 / NEW

WKC is doing really well on the ps3! Selling so similar to RG with a much smaller userbase is unexpected. Can someone please show me how other Level 5 games performed on the ps2?

AC is selling amazing of course. I'm not sure if this game deserves it (it's more of an expansion), but Nintendo catered to the female audience nicely.

DFF, good showing. It's certainly doing better than CCFFVII. I wonder if it will reach a million? With the amount of replayability SE put in the game, I assume there won't be much used copies in stores.

Wagamama Fashion, is another AC. But it has legs unheard of! It started so slow at first.

PSZ, it's a disappointed with every way you look at it.

 

[Laguna]

Nice sales for WKC, but I wonder how does a 200K opening week for a RPG stack up against other RPGs released this year, on both the PS3 alone and all the systems?

Edit: Seems half my question has just been answered.

DQV, PkmnDiamond, PSP and if you count MH as a RPG also MH2G had a better start this year. The X360 RPGs had all a lower start *surprise*

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Just to show how weak is SCE nowadays...biggest first weeks from SCE titles:
2005 - Rogue Galaxy 213,289
2006 - Minna no Tennis 210,392
2007 - Minna no Golf 5 175,750
2008 - White Knight Chronicles 203,000

This reminds me that I want a new Minna no Tennis. Is SCEJ planning to make games ever again?

 

[Frillen]

Second-highest? Which one is the first?

Dragon Quest Swords.

 

[BishopLamont]

Second-highest? Which one is the first?

Dragon Quest Swords with 300k opening.

Damn you Frillen.

 

[Stumpokapow]

Second-highest? Which one is the first?

the highest-debuting console rpg of the generation is also the highest-debuting console first-person game of the generation

 

[Magicpaint]

01. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles (SCE) - 203,000 / NEW

Evidence piles up that only first party games sell on the PS3.

lulz.

 

[RpgN]

Suikoden is also doing well. A 100k is very possible now

Oh...And Wii Music is still there...Meh

 

[Phife Dawg]

i wonder why PS0 had such a poor opening... it was pretty heavily advertised. maybe the monster hunter-like game community just doesn't belong on the DS.

Maybe the overlap between DS and PSP owners is bigger than everyone thought. Definitely disappointing sales.

Haha@Inazuma 11....keep selling :-D

It really has impressive legs for an RPG.

3 days too...

Games usually get released on Thursdays. Feels like a PAL sales thread :lol .

 

[Frillen]

3 days too...

Actually 4 days. Thursday-Sunday.

Which is the case with 99.9% of Japanese releases.

 

[deepbrown]

Maybe the overlap between DS and PSP owners is bigger than everyone thought. Definitely disappointing sales.


It really has impressive legs for an RPG.


Games usually get released on Thursdays. Feels like a PAL sales thread :lol .

Well..I want to see 7 days sales numbers! >_< I'm British...that'd be why lol

 

[SimpleDesign]

Second-highest? Which one is the first?

So I guess we can all agree RPGs need to be multi-platform as far as Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 are concerned?

Not that this game will ever go multiplatform, but third party titles (Like Valkria Chronicles & Tales of Vesperia) need to be on both in this day and age.

 

[t3nmilez]

WKC is pretty good and impressive how it doubled 1st day numbers. The next few weeks will really show how well it does, though.

If it only stays around 200k, that's about double the big 360 RPGs, give or take. In all honesty, that's kind of disappointing in the grand scheme of things, I think. Considering that PS3 sole development is supposedly more expensive than 360 development, is it worth bothering with? I know that there are many variables at work of quality and whatever here, but WKC was hyped up to hell here and I'm pretty sure all PS3 owners were aware of it. I kind of expected most of the RPG fanatics would have bought it.

Too early to tell, really, if it continues to sell well then that's good for the PS3 and RPGs, but if it remains stagnant, then I don't see much incentive for exclusive PS3 RPG development, especially after the low sales of the other titles and ports. Perhaps this is why Sony isn't really bothering securing RPGs this gen and focusing on other styles of games. Should be interesting to see what happens.

 

[deepbrown]

WKC is pretty good and impressive how it doubled 1st day numbers. The next few weeks will really show how well it does, though.

If it only stays around 200k, that's about double the big 360 RPGs, give or take. In all honesty, that's kind of disappointing in the grand scheme of things, I think. Considering that PS3 sole development is supposedly more expensive than 360 development, is it worth bothering with? I know that there are many variables at work of quality and whatever here, but WKC was hyped up to hell here and I'm pretty sure all PS3 owners were aware of it. I kind of expected most of the RPG fanatics would have bought it.

Too early to tell, really, if it continues to sell well then that's good for the PS3 and RPGs, but if it remains stagnant, then I don't see much incentive for exclusive PS3 RPG development, especially after the low sales of the other titles and ports. Perhaps this is why Sony isn't really bothering securing RPGs this gen and focusing on other styles of games. Should be interesting to see what happens.

Exciting analysis

 

[RpgN]

Exciting analysis

Sarcasm?

 

[BishopLamont]

WKC is pretty good and impressive how it doubled 1st day numbers. The next few weeks will really show how well it does, though.

If it only stays around 200k, that's about double the big 360 RPGs, give or take. In all honesty, that's kind of disappointing in the grand scheme of things, I think. Considering that PS3 sole development is supposedly more expensive than 360 development, is it worth bothering with? I know that there are many variables at work of quality and whatever here, but WKC was hyped up to hell here and I'm pretty sure all PS3 owners were aware of it. I kind of expected most of the RPG fanatics would have bought it.

Too early to tell, really, if it continues to sell well then that's good for the PS3 and RPGs, but if it remains stagnant, then I don't see much incentive for exclusive PS3 RPG development, especially after the low sales of the other titles and ports. Perhaps this is why Sony isn't really bothering securing RPGs this gen and focusing on other styles of games. Should be interesting to see what happens.

You're rounding off a bit too much. :/

 

[Paracelsus]

Thanks for the DQ:S info.

In all honesty, that's kind of disappointing in the grand scheme of things, I think.

You can spin this analysis in all directions, actually. You could also say that if an average Jrpg like WKC managed to outsell all the Jrpgs on X360 in Japan in one single week, then you could also think that maybe (and I repeat: maybe) better and more famous IPs would have done even better.

Furthermore, after two years I wonder how much more expensive is development on PS3 compared to 360.

You're rounding off a bit too much. :/

It doubled all the first weeks, yeah, but not the LTD. It might end up doubling the second best selling Jrpg on 360, Vesperia, but there's no way in hell it's gonna double-outsell Blue Dragon.

 

[SimpleDesign]

Exciting analysis

Excellent rebuttal

 

[Rock_Man]

Famitsu Sales: 12/22 - 12/28
26. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) - 34,000 / 4,852,000

I have no doubt this game will reach 5 million. I wonder if Brain Training 2 has reached that goal by now.

 

[SilverLunar]

Judging by how FSZ preformed compared to PSP I am starting to believe the only reason the psp title preformed extremely well compared to(all) of the PS games is riding on Monster Hunter.

 

[t3nmilez]

You can spin this analysis in all directions, actually. You could also say that if an average Jrpg like WKC managed to outsell all the Jrpgs on X360 in Japan in one single week, then you could also think that maybe (and I repeat: maybe) better and more famous IPs would have done even better.

Furthermore, after two years I wonder how much more expensive is development on PS3 compared to 360.

I guess we'll never know about PS3 development difficulties, but most devs seem to be in agreement that 360 is easier to work with, both Americans and Japanese.

It's very likely that big names will sell on the PS3, I have no doubts that FF13 will have amazing sales. Hell, I knew someone who was a big Tales/RPG fan, but didn't want to buy a 360 just to play Vesperia, but he does have a PS3 (although I like to joke around with him about how he chose the wrong system for RPGs), he bought WKC of course. WKC had really huge marketing here so awareness wasn't the problem.

If only big names sell, then it'll kill innovation, some of the best RPGs in the past have been single entry titles or offshoots. The other question is, how much? Would Vesperia have hit 500k on the PS3? 200K? Would the additional sales make up the (possibly) more expensive and difficult development time? We'll never know, I suppose.

It seems to make more sense to develop these games for the Wii, at least there 200k sales are respectable, and we've seen that it can happen with Symphonia 2 outselling all 360 and PS3 RPGs. Next year should be very interesting, with some original RPG projects coming to the system (although none of them are by big names). I'm sure that if SE made some original projects for the Wii and marketed them, they could be successful. Of course, we won't know for a long time, it seems.

We also need a true multiplatform PS360 RPG release. Will the combined sales be so much higher than a single release to justify multiplatform development, or will it just hover slightly higher than a single release, as many people possibly own both systems? Well, either way, I'm sure multiplatform development must be worth it, provided it isn't so expensive to do.

 

[Captain Smoker]

All-Time Top50

- Wii Sports up from #20 to #19 and passed the original version of Final Fantasy VII.
- Wii Fit should overtake DKC next week.
- Pokémon Platinum moved up 6 ranks from #49 to #43, could reach #39 next week, lol.
- Mario Kart Wii up from #57 to #53, should enter the Top50 in the next two or three weeks.

 

[deepbrown]

Excellent rebuttal

Sarcasm?:lol