Media Create Sales 12/26-01/01 It's Real Bitches

One milestone, which is imho the most amazing, is closing in fast. The DS will have 50% of the PS2 installed base very soon! Publisher will sure look at this carefully.
 
User Tron said:
One milestone, which is imho the most amazing, is closing in fast. The DS will have 50% of the PS2 installed base very soon! Publisher will sure look at this carefully.

PS2 installed base number there doesn't take into account 2001. It's more like 19 million.
 
Good for Nintendo, I suppose, and good for the industry.

It's just a shame that the successful content is stuff I don't enjoy and it is being created for crusty old hardware. Playing a good game is most important to me, but a good game with good visuals is better (for me) than a good game that looks poor.

Animal Forest? Brain Training? Nintendogs?

Not for me.

If that stuff can co-exist with the content I enjoy, I have no problem, but I don't want to see this kind of gaming become the focus of more developers.
 
The PSP is actually doing well. It certainly makes sense as a source of revenue between generations for Sony considering they are planning to post a full-year loss of $80 million.
 
dark10x said:
Good for Nintendo, I suppose, and good for the industry.

It's just a shame that the successful content is stuff I don't enjoy and it is being created for crusty old hardware. Playing a good game is most important to me, but a good game with good visuals is better (for me) than a good game that looks poor.

Animal Forest? Brain Training? Nintendogs?

Not for me.

If that stuff can co-exist with the content I enjoy, I have no problem, but I don't want to see this kind of gaming become the focus of more developers.

It won't.

And on the flip side, I don't want to start paying $10-$20 more for each handheld or console game, and I don't want my portable gaming device to be well over the $200 mark. $150 for a handheld is insane, let alone $250.
 
AniHawk said:
It won't.

And on the flip side, I don't want to start paying $10-$20 more for each handheld or console game, and I don't want my portable gaming device to be well over the $200 mark. $150 for a handheld is insane, let alone $250.

I agree. PSP games in the US are a ripoff, while the $30 I spent on Mario Kart DS was the best $30 I'd spent in a long time.
 
dark10x said:
but a good game with good controls is better (for me) than a good game that controls poor.
Fixed. The touchscreen is tech too, one that no other handheld/console had, so it's not exactly "old tech" through and through.
 
elostyle said:
Fixed. The touchscreen is tech too, one that no other handheld/console had, so it's not exactly "old tech" through and through.

Let's not start this new tech BS argument. Soon someone will bring up PDAs and I will have to murder everyone. AGAIN.
 
AniHawk said:
Let's not start this new tech BS argument. Soon someone will bring up PDAs and I will have to murder everyone. AGAIN.
Well in that case you can always bring up the point that PSP graphics are old as well. It's a stupid discussion and the tech simply doesn't matter as the success shows.

Point is you can just as well say that good games with touch screen support are better than good games like you can say that good games with better graphics are better than just good games. Some think the touchscreen is gimmicky while others think PS2 games on the go is just a novelty.
 
AniHawk said:
And on the flip side, I don't want to start paying $10-$20 more for each handheld or console game, and I don't want my portable gaming device to be well over the $200 mark. $150 for a handheld is insane, let alone $250.

IAWTP

I think tbe PSP is a solid gaming device and has the potential to become an incredible gaming device, but honestly it's horrid at being a portable. It's bloody expensive, and so are the games. I don't want loading times when I'm on the go. The battery life is an issue on trips, but it's fine for portable gaming throughout the day. The biggest issue, however, is the console-style games. I don't want a heavy, time-consuming, action-filled experience on a portable. I want more strategic games that I can play in short bursts as I have opportunity throughout the day.

The DS is an offender here too, mainly because of its design. It's big, bulky, and hard to carry around. The games are, for the most part, designed to be portable, but there are exceptions. Trauma Center on the go? Yeah, right. Mario64?
I can't even play that at home...
 
dark10x said:
Animal Forest? Brain Training? Nintendogs?

Not for me.

If that stuff can co-exist with the content I enjoy, I have no problem, but I don't want to see this kind of gaming become the focus of more developers.

Kinda the same way I feel about the saturation of urban thugz games on consoles.

But damn, those are great numbers. And this was WITH the shortage. I wonder how much it could have gotten if there wasn't any shorteges.
 
dark10x said:
Good for Nintendo, I suppose, and good for the industry.

It's just a shame that the successful content is stuff I don't enjoy and it is being created for crusty old hardware. Playing a good game is most important to me, but a good game with good visuals is better (for me) than a good game that looks poor.

Animal Forest? Brain Training? Nintendogs?

Not for me.

If that stuff can co-exist with the content I enjoy, I have no problem, but I don't want to see this kind of gaming become the focus of more developers.

Despite my love of the DS I know what you mean. Of course, I already went through it already... the saturation of FPSes over the past decade have been really disappointing, when I know some of these devs would be able to make great games in genres I enjoy.

Ah well, thems the breaks. At least I don't have to be overly concerned about keeping up with the PC gaming scene anymore :/
 
Just been going over some old threads and I stumbled across some sales predictions for Christmas 2005. Check these out as there are some really over the top predictions from current and not so current GAF members. There is also some of the infamous ban challenges here as well. :)

Interesting reading. Not meant to embarrass anybody but just goes to show how unpredictable and how far off things can turn out.

Link:
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=31068
 
jayhawker said:
IAWTP

I think tbe PSP is a solid gaming device and has the potential to become an incredible gaming device, but honestly it's horrid at being a portable. It's bloody expensive, and so are the games. I don't want loading times when I'm on the go. The battery life is an issue on trips, but it's fine for portable gaming throughout the day. The biggest issue, however, is the console-style games. I don't want a heavy, time-consuming, action-filled experience on a portable. I want more strategic games that I can play in short bursts as I have opportunity throughout the day.

The DS is an offender here too, mainly because of its design. It's big, bulky, and hard to carry around. The games are, for the most part, designed to be portable, but there are exceptions. Trauma Center on the go? Yeah, right. Mario64?
I can't even play that at home...

Um... I played Trauma Center and Mario 64 all the frickin time on the bus.
 
Lindsay said:
I request Amirox update this chart of his: http://mars.walagata.com/w/amir0x/CHARTOFSUCCESS2.jpg

:)

Also those old threads are great. 56 & 96k were "amazing!" back then haha those people probably woulda never expected/accepted what December would bring!

success7dp.jpg


:)
 
Broshnat said:
What?????

There are some idiots about...

By the end of 2005:

PSP

2.5m Japan
4.0m USA
2.5m PAL

9.0m total

DS
4.0m Japan
7.0m USA
2.5m PAL

13.5m total
The totals are so f'ing close, he is great at predicting! And he was tagged "If the PSP sells more than 10 million by December 2005 you can ban me for a month" ^^. I think there's no reason for banning here but for a new tag instead :): He knew about easter! At the beginning of the year!
 
Farmboy said:
:lol The funny thing is the selfownage continues right up to the last page, with posts dated November, where Broshnat's predictions of 9m PSPs and 13.5 DSs by the end of 2005 were considered 'way off' because neither handheld could ever hope to sell enough units in December. :)
:lol This thread is a comedy goldmine. I never realized that Sony fans were more delusional than Nintendo fans. Good quotes:

I'll bet it outsells the DS 3:1 Christmas 2005, at LEAST.
As many as Sony can produce.
JPN: 5M
US: 10M
EU: 5M
jpn 7.5 million
US 6.8 milion
EU 5.5 million

Defensor said:
UltimateMarioMan said:
Your kidding yourselves if you think the PSP will outsell the DS ever. Sony will be lucky if they can sell 15 million in its lifetime. Which in my book is still a success considering its going against what most casual gamers see as the new Gameboy.
Bookmarked for future reference :)
I'm glad you bookmarked this.
I'm CERTAIN the PSP will sell 10 million worldwide by the end of Dec 2005, if it does are you willing to be banned for a month?
If the PSP sells more than 10 million by December 2005 you can ban me for a month
Good thing that's totally irrelevant now.
 
Broshnat said:
What?????

There are some idiots about...

By the end of 2005:

PSP

2.5m Japan
4.0m USA
2.5m PAL

9.0m total

DS
4.0m Japan
7.0m USA
2.5m PAL

13.5m total


You just wait and see...

Wow, pretty good guess for back in January.
 
I thought everybody expected DS (because Nintendo is the king of handheld .. something like that) to out sell the PSP,






well at least that's what they say now.
 
Just got off the phone with my gf. She said the DS fever is madness. Everywhere she goes (Chiba and Tokyo area) she sees people playing DS. Men with their children. High School kids on the train. And the thing is sold out in every store she checks. Her mom wants one so she might just leave hers over there since the redesign is due at some point. But she kept talking about how she wanted Brain Training 2 and how it looks so much better than the first.
 
Firest0rm said:

Hahaha, I forgot about this chart. Also, it's almost time to exchange "PS2 level success" and "PSOne level success."

Also DS wouldn't be GBA level success yet, the chart is done by units. It still has like 4 years to go for that. Hee, funny being all technical about my joke.
 
Amir0x said:
indeed!

I thought 9,000,000 was a good number, but PSP is at what... 7 million? So 2 million off is pretty bad.
Nah I think it is actually around 9m now, is it not? At least that's what I heard. Then again, might have been quertz noise at the time.
 
Amir0x said:
indeed!

I thought 9,000,000 was a good number, but PSP is at what... 7 million? So 2 million off is pretty bad.
Media Create + NPD (excluding December) is at 5.2 million. I can see PSP worldwide sold numbers at 8.5-9.5 million.

EDIT: Added an extra 500K.
 
elostyle said:
Nah I think it is actually around 9m now, is it not? At least that's what I heard. Then again, might have been quertz noise at the time.

wait if that's true then my prediction wasn't bad :P

I was mainly talking about supply problems around each of the various territory launches, but that didn't even turn out to be true except in Japan.

I think maybe 8,000,000 at best though, 9mil seems high...

Edit: 8.5 mil? What is total for each territory?
 
Amir0x said:
wait if that's true then my prediction wasn't bad :P

I was mainly talking about supply problems around each of the various territory launches, but that didn't even turn out to be true except in Japan.

I think maybe 8,000,000 at best though, 9mil seems high...

Edit: 8.5 mil? What is total for each territory?
Japan is at 2.7 million
US is at 2.5 million without December (add another 1 million or so for December)
EU we don't know but if the DS is at 3.5 million I think 2-2.5 million is a good conservative guess.
That would bring the PSP to 8.2-8.7 million without the smaller territories.
 
Off-topic: what are the total hardware sales for Nintendo consoles? I know GCN is ~20 million and N64 is ~34 but what about NES/SNES? Thanks in advance.
 
Chrono said:
Off-topic: what are the total hardware sales for Nintendo consoles? I know GCN is ~20 million and N64 is ~34 but what about NES/SNES? Thanks in advance.
I saved this from an old thread here on GAF.
61.78 NES
49.02 SNES
 
BANANAS

I'd say some sort of tipping point has occurred, looking at that graph. Was it Animal Crossing that put the system sales into overdrive? Hmmm....

PSP was no slouch in its sales either. Still, not even close though :lol
 
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