Media Create Sales 12/26-01/01 It's Real Bitches
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Kola said:fuck it!
stupid anti-nbots are killing this wonderful photoshop thread. since they started to bash the DS all those funny pics stopped being posted and we've got another lame flame war. shame on you
Just ignore Drinky, MAF, etc... They're idiots. That's all that can be said.
MrSardonic
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Kola said:stupid anti-nbots are killing this wonderful photoshop thread. since they started to bash the DS all those funny pics stopped being posted and we've got another lame flame war. shame on you
Reboot
from: http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtop...nkmessag&sid=c525ec0a91ff96aa1be5cdb26e5a3bed
Everybody on this board knows that if the PSP was generating the gangbusters like sales the NDS is, the trolls for that faction would be celebrating like there is no tomorrow. If the protests were coming from 'platform agnostic' posters, maybe they wouldn't warrant laughs.
As it is, this is tantamount to watching the gradeschool bully trip and break his leg :lol
As it is, this is tantamount to watching the gradeschool bully trip and break his leg :lol
Version 3.0
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MrAngryFace said:
I really like the tone of your post. Funny how you never stop to think where "Brand Loyalty" comes from.
Here's the thing: brand loyalty comes from customer satisfaction. There is no other way to get it.
If a company were to offer a "bad gameplay experience", especially repeatedly as you maintain, they wouldn't have any loyal customers, not unless that loyalty was coming from an outside source (say, a movie or celebrity license).
It's kind of like how if you were to be angry all the time, your friends would abandon you, and you'd be lonely and forced to...I dunno...troll on the internet or something.
Why the hate? Some could argue the PSP library is made of expensive generic games, plagued with serious control issues and loading times. DS library covers all tastes and provides an unparallell interaction through the touchscreen. It's providing next gen controls, new game genres, that boot in few seconds, it's affordable and multiplayer oriented: one single cartridge needed to play most games in LAN? Come on, this reason alone makes DS library more appealing than PSP's one. PSP is a fantastic piece of hardware. But you're just wrong to believe it offers the ultimate portable gaming experience. You are sticking to your 2004 opinion of the DS, when it launched with Mario 64 and a handful of shitty games. We are in 2006 now and the DS has proven itself a fantastic machine.Drinky Crow said:
If you still hate the DS today, well Drinky Crow you have fishy tastes for a so called gamer.
Earthstrike
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I hate how poeple say Nintendo is doing an injustice by expanding the market to "casual" and "non-gamers". EVERYONE was a casual or non-gamer at some point in their life, but yet we were all converted. Likewise nintendo may very well be converting people to gaming and creating and expanding market to include MORE gamers that never played games because of their misconceptions of them.
Once Nintendo's Brain Trainers and Animal Crossers get somewhat bored of their current products they will look for other Nintendo products to buy, and that is when we will see HUGE software sales. This was the year of hardware. Around the middle of next summer, it will become the year of software.
Once Nintendo's Brain Trainers and Animal Crossers get somewhat bored of their current products they will look for other Nintendo products to buy, and that is when we will see HUGE software sales. This was the year of hardware. Around the middle of next summer, it will become the year of software.
MrAngryFace said:
I'll pretty much take the bait here, but oh well.
I can tell you straight out that you and me have different gameplay tastes. I've been swallowing Nintendo games since longer I can count. To this day, I still enjoy it. I'll never believe the fluff that Nintendo has 'lost it' (I seriously hear this) when it comes to creating a good game, because honestly, that's BS. They make good games in all their platforms, even in this generation where I felt their stuff were better during the n64 generation than their GCN generation. Yeah, even in the DS side of things.
I don't care about whether the DS absolutely gives the PSP a stuffing that Nintendo fans won't let Sony fans ever forget... I don't. What I DO care about is continous support from publishers to a system that you think is horseshit, while I think this system has given me nothing but endless fun for the past 13 or so months. I honestly don't know what more I can say... you say Mario Kart is flat out shit, and hey that's your opinion, I won't scream until my face is blue and tell you that you are flat out wrong. I'll just tell you that I don't agree, and I can tell you with a straight face that this Mario Kart is better than the abomination that was Double Dash!!, and this MK for the DS is right up there with the original MK.
Non-games, games, whatever, I enjoy the system. And as for this thread, it's just Nintendo fans giving a laugh on photoshops. Are they pounding their chests because of sales? Oh yeah, even I find it funny, but who cares really? It's all in jest and they're having a good time.
Earthstrike said:
I glanced over the last few pages, but this post really caught my eye. And it is exactly what Nintendo is doing right now, more than Sony and Microsoft combined. As mentioned elsewhere, software and hardwaresales have never been this high in Japan and this outburst could create a whole new era for gaming. The DS is picking up now, and we already see that in the new games that are coming. Though I don't understand how games like Brain Training (which is a simple quiz-game) and Animal Crossing (which has some sort of reward for almost everything you do) can be called non-games.
Yes, they are different than the games we used to play on our home-consoles and handheld-consoles, but aren't crosswordpuzzles games too? No offense to all the people calling Nintendogs, AC and BT non-games, but I believe you are wrong there. Heck, anything can be made into a game, you only have to see it and be willing to go do something with it. Like that game for elderly people that one gamedesigner came up with (I believe it was Keita Takahashi, creator of the Katamari games), that was brilliant in my oppinion and fun to play too (for elderly
) from what I perceived.And isn't that was games is all about? Fun?
I see a lot of potentially great games, and with the DS we have an entire new gameplay mechanic we can mess with. And it seems that these 'non-games' (I really despise this term) are indeed bringing in new people who are open to new forms of entertainment. Screw sales figures, I will never drool over them as most people tend to do around here, as long as there are enough fun games I can play.
AdmiralViscen
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What's all this talk on page 10 and 11 (I'm not up to 12 yet) about DS software not selling well beyond a few non-games? DS had 15 of the top 30 in December.
The notions that "real-games" on the DS are not 1.) doing as well as their predecessors and 2.) not selling systems, are both wrong.
1.) Let's take a comparison between DS software and their GBA counterparts in Japan:
Mario comparison:
GBA 672,819 Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 (Nintendo) (7/11/03) - through Oct 30/05
DS 783,263 Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo) (12/2/04) - through Nov 27/05
Wario comparision:
GBA 461,676 Mawaru Made in Wario (WarioWare: Twisted!) (Nintendo) (10/14/04) - through June 26/05
DS 816,211 Sawaru Made in Wario (WarioWare: Touched!) (Nintendo) (12/2/04) - through Nov 27/05
Both DS version are poised to break a million.
Pokemon spinoffs:
GBA 512,054 Pokemon Fushigi na Dungeon: Aka no Kyuujoutai (Nintendo) (11/17/05) - through Dec 25/05 (Media Create)
DS 572,858 Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Ao no Kyuujotai (Nintendo) (11/17/05) - through Jan 1/06 (Media Create)
We can all agree that those above are "real games"?
Now others have already stated Gyakuten Saiban DS is only a remake and has sold close to the average sales of the franchise (~150k), Mario Kart is selling at a faster rate than Super Circuit or Double Dash, and Slime Mori Mori 2 DS is only slightly off the GBA sales rate. And if you think that Ouedan, the definition of a niche title, had significant sales potential, I don't know what to tell ya. The only real disappointments really, have been the DS version of Mushi King, which did nowhere the numbers the GBA version put up. In general, "real game" DS software have compared favorably to thei GBA predecessors. That shows that they haven't lost the core GBA audience while drawing on a larger casual and untapped audience. People also have to remember, 40% of the installed base has happened within the last month (pretty mind boggling). So the talk about software not taking advantage of the huge installed base is bull. How about giving it more than 1 month?
2.) "Real games" have been a big catalyst for DS hardware sales spikes throughout the year. If you look on any of the Easter graphs, you realize that it was Kirby, not Nintendogs that first spurred the resurgence of the DS after months of sluggish sales. Similarly, it was Jump Superstars that first pushed DS hardware sales beyond 100k after the post-launch period. Next year will bring the first-tier franchises in, with a new Mario, Pokemon and probably Zelda. Will they sell? You bet your ass they will.
1.) Let's take a comparison between DS software and their GBA counterparts in Japan:
Mario comparison:
GBA 672,819 Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 (Nintendo) (7/11/03) - through Oct 30/05
DS 783,263 Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo) (12/2/04) - through Nov 27/05
Wario comparision:
GBA 461,676 Mawaru Made in Wario (WarioWare: Twisted!) (Nintendo) (10/14/04) - through June 26/05
DS 816,211 Sawaru Made in Wario (WarioWare: Touched!) (Nintendo) (12/2/04) - through Nov 27/05
Both DS version are poised to break a million.
Pokemon spinoffs:
GBA 512,054 Pokemon Fushigi na Dungeon: Aka no Kyuujoutai (Nintendo) (11/17/05) - through Dec 25/05 (Media Create)
DS 572,858 Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Ao no Kyuujotai (Nintendo) (11/17/05) - through Jan 1/06 (Media Create)
We can all agree that those above are "real games"?
Now others have already stated Gyakuten Saiban DS is only a remake and has sold close to the average sales of the franchise (~150k), Mario Kart is selling at a faster rate than Super Circuit or Double Dash, and Slime Mori Mori 2 DS is only slightly off the GBA sales rate. And if you think that Ouedan, the definition of a niche title, had significant sales potential, I don't know what to tell ya. The only real disappointments really, have been the DS version of Mushi King, which did nowhere the numbers the GBA version put up. In general, "real game" DS software have compared favorably to thei GBA predecessors. That shows that they haven't lost the core GBA audience while drawing on a larger casual and untapped audience. People also have to remember, 40% of the installed base has happened within the last month (pretty mind boggling). So the talk about software not taking advantage of the huge installed base is bull. How about giving it more than 1 month?
2.) "Real games" have been a big catalyst for DS hardware sales spikes throughout the year. If you look on any of the Easter graphs, you realize that it was Kirby, not Nintendogs that first spurred the resurgence of the DS after months of sluggish sales. Similarly, it was Jump Superstars that first pushed DS hardware sales beyond 100k after the post-launch period. Next year will bring the first-tier franchises in, with a new Mario, Pokemon and probably Zelda. Will they sell? You bet your ass they will.
BorkBork said:
and to be fair, Mushi King DS was way too close to the release of the GBA version. Everyone who likes the Mushi King franchise would have probably bought the GBA version by the time the DS one came out, which was like half a million people +. I don't think the game has changed much at all, other than adding the touch screen and a few extra stuff, to warrant another buy.
The Faceless Master
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mission accomplished?
you guys actually let them re-rail a really funny derailed photoshop thread back into a PSP/DS argument...
you guys actually let them re-rail a really funny derailed photoshop thread back into a PSP/DS argument...
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
The Faceless Master said:
Yeah i've been trying to get the thread re-derailed but it's proved difficult. This is my last attempt and a recap:
evilromero
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The next big hit is a Blaster Master game for DS. It'll use both screens ala Sonic Rush and will be the best thing to ever happen. Do it.
In preperation for this weeks numbers:
Code:
Week PS2 2001 GBA 2001 GBA 2002 DS 2005
1 108 108 44 44 120 120 177 177
2 103 211 39 83 135 255 299 476
3 184 395 121 204 197 452 409 885
4 222 617 265 469 304 756 598 1,483
5 249 866 216 685 263 1,019 390 1,873
6 315 1,181 286 971 317 1,336
7 114 1,295 88 1,059 85 1,421
JoshuaJSlone
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Doesn't seem like just attempt so far looking at those numbers.ioi said:
Can you remind exactly which period is being measured and why, though? Just the "big" time of the year with cutoffs based on when things are usually ballooned?
It's the equivalent weeks (or as close as can be) for the holiday periods- GBA 2002 is the best performance I have on record, followed by PS2 2001 and GBA 2001 as shown.
GBA 2002 was just after the release of Pokemon, PS2 2001 was the PS2's second xmas.
But yeah, the period shows the 'balooned' period, steady increase before (2-3 weeks) and the first week of major drop after- basically first week of Dec to mid Jan.
GBA 2002 was just after the release of Pokemon, PS2 2001 was the PS2's second xmas.
But yeah, the period shows the 'balooned' period, steady increase before (2-3 weeks) and the first week of major drop after- basically first week of Dec to mid Jan.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
the androgyne
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Don't tell me to do come to daddy then do it yourself again julls!
the androgyne
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Not to steal anyone's thunder here - but i really liked this one from earlier in the thread, and felt it could be even more accurate (just had to flip shig's head around a bit and voila!)
Damn spooky! haha
Damn spooky! haha
Most of the posted pictures are from the great MozLaPunk forums. Give them their credit. BTW, here's my favourite:
Here's some more. I was unable to track down the original source for a long time but it's actually also from MozLaPunk. I should've looked at the signature (Arkion) earlier:
Here's some more. I was unable to track down the original source for a long time but it's actually also from MozLaPunk. I should've looked at the signature (Arkion) earlier:
Cosmozone said:Most of the posted pictures are from the great MozLaPunk forums. Give them their credit. BTW, here's my favourite:
Here's some more. I was unable to track down the original source for a long time but it's actually also from MozLaPunk. I should've looked at the signature (Arkion) earlier:
oh my god that sin city shit is killer
DeEJaYMiND
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:lol This is NSFW ... people are looking 
the androgyne
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the androgyne
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Intentional double post bump, sorry guys - but i just found this from 2000(!) and figured given the humour, people might (still) get a laugh from this.
Way back when, chatting on iCQ to some randoms, eventually a chick from Canada (Make of that what you will!) sent me her photo. I haven't doctored this image - although it is not out of the question that it was doctored before i got it - but if it was, i cannot tell! The only giveaway could be the kai's power goo style of rubber skin -and the obviously added frame graphic?! But who knows..
Anyway without further ado, i give you maria grad 5 (forever known as this cause of the file name - horridly implying there are also maria grad 1-4's as well).
Quite possibly the ugliest girl in existance and... Julls will remember this one, from before we were 'pros'.
Enjoy!
</buyingtickettohelll>
Way back when, chatting on iCQ to some randoms, eventually a chick from Canada (Make of that what you will!) sent me her photo. I haven't doctored this image - although it is not out of the question that it was doctored before i got it - but if it was, i cannot tell! The only giveaway could be the kai's power goo style of rubber skin -and the obviously added frame graphic?! But who knows..
Anyway without further ado, i give you maria grad 5 (forever known as this cause of the file name - horridly implying there are also maria grad 1-4's as well).
Quite possibly the ugliest girl in existance and... Julls will remember this one, from before we were 'pros'.
Enjoy!
</buyingtickettohelll>
Frankfurter
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Yeah, but that's not because of Christmas, but because of New Year (well, atleast that's what we think :lol )
) weren't celebrated in Japan. Therefore I found it funny that the Japanese Media-Create listed it as a reason for sales. Am I missing something?C- Warrior
Banned
Got a general question.
I was talking to a friend of mine over AIM, and eventually (don't ask how) we got to Japan sales. And he mentioned that although Japan has the lowest piracy rates (out of all developed/semi-developed countries) RE4, for some reason, was heavily pirated there?
WTF?
Somebody please shoot that conflicting statement down. I've heard time and time again that Japan does have low piracy rates (used game sales is there issue there), so why would RE4 get pirated specifically/heavily? Is it because the game was out a good 40+ days before the JPN release?
CVX, get crackin.
I was talking to a friend of mine over AIM, and eventually (don't ask how) we got to Japan sales. And he mentioned that although Japan has the lowest piracy rates (out of all developed/semi-developed countries) RE4, for some reason, was heavily pirated there?
WTF?
Somebody please shoot that conflicting statement down. I've heard time and time again that Japan does have low piracy rates (used game sales is there issue there), so why would RE4 get pirated specifically/heavily? Is it because the game was out a good 40+ days before the JPN release?
CVX, get crackin.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
A person would be easy. But it's better to point to something like GameRankings where the DS comes out ahead when viewing each console's top 10, with 'non-games' not poking in until number 7 with Animal Crossing.Drinky Crow said:
the androgyne
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Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
