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[JoshuaJSlone]

Hopefully.

But I doubt it'll stay at 10k forever. :|

I don't see why not. (Unless if by doubting it stays at 10K you mean it will move to 5K.) If we're really making GameCube comparisons with PS3... it's not like late 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, or 2006 improved upon how it was doing weekly in earlier 2002, regardless of minor bumps due to major titles. The damage was done.

 

[Threi]

What do you mean with Alienware is stupid btw? If you mean you can get the exact same specs they provide to a much cheaper price i would be very interested to know where.

I could probably build my own PC here in Canada for cheaper than an American alienware.

 

[justchris]

Jimbo,

Maybe it's just the sleep deprivation talking, but I think you're my favorite joke character.

"Jimbo,

Maybe it's the beer talking, but you've got a butt that won't quit. They've got these big chewy pretzels here and arghbrfle.... Beer? 5 dollars? Get out of here!"

Same, fanboy baiting should be made a sport to see who can get the biggest meltdown.

I'm currently working on a homebrew project for DS called Trollbait Training. Assuming I ever finish it, I'll be sure to credit both gaf & ps3forums.

 

[Meier]

Good luck (belatedly) Vinnk!

 

[Rocksteady33]

WTF @ Killer 7 not being released on PS2 in Japan yet.

 

[koam]

Haha this thread needs more ps3forums:

Has it ever occured to you that Sony is REALLY trying to revolutionize gaming?? Has it?? Well for that you'll need a PS3.. but it's gonna cost you dearly. For now. When the good games come, you'll see why you paid so much.

Stop worrying about Sony!! They had the same deal with the PS1 and PS2 and look where these consoles got!! I honestly think that this generations losses are being backed by the last two generations' profits... They were planning it, damnit!

It's called long term thinking.. something some 360 fanboys don't understand.

Nintendo never got to 100 millions of one console sold... Infact, I think combined, the Playstation brand sold more than ALL Nintendo consoles COMBINED. So stop worrying!

do those guys actually play anything on the wii? or do they just have one to tell other people they do an so on.

lol, are you crazy?? Wii will not sell more than 40 million this gen. Nintendo is aiming for 35 million consoles.

Maybe to those new gamers who only now discovered the world of gaming, and to the Nintendo fanboys. I say it's cheaper price just allows the former Nintendo owners to transfer to this console more quickly... That's all there is to it. Once all those new gamers realize how the games were brought from the seventies, they'll look for something else, say... THE PLAYSTATION 3! With it's amazing line-up and future proof durability... That will happen when the big games for the PS3 drop, when the Wii remains game-less.

Take your MEGA-TON AND THURSDAY-TON self out of here...we don't want no Neo-Jaffe followers invading this excellent and non-delusional PS3 forum...we like our NPD and MC threads...with PS3 optimism and 360 and Wii down-syndromism

How is the ps3 not worth $600? Wifi/bluetooth/bluray/backward compatability/internet browser/PSN/etc/etc/upscale FREE FIRMWARE updates.

Shoot, you call it overpriced, I call it a bargain, and I only make 20k a year, go figure.

 

[Xisiqomelir]

:lol Neo-Jaffe

 

[Aeris130]

ASCII alone cannot express my amusement. :lol

 

[Spotless Mind]

Take your MEGA-TON AND THURSDAY-TON self out of here...we don't want no Neo-Jaffe followers invading this excellent and non-delusional PS3 forum...we like our NPD and MC threads...with PS3 optimism and 360 and Wii down-syndromism.

That is gold.:lol

 

[Linkup]

PS2 game costs $5 million to make.
P2S game sells 100,000 copies = $5 million dollars. Developer breaks even.

Sorry, not even close.

Then what IS close.

 

[RBH]

Take your MEGA-TON AND THURSDAY-TON self out of here...we don't want no Neo-Jaffe followers invading this excellent and non-delusional PS3 forum...we like our NPD and MC threads...with PS3 optimism and 360 and Wii down-syndromism

:lol

 

[Jammy]

Then what IS close.

There's advertising, manufacturing, shipping, etc. A lot more goes into the cost of a $50 game than just R&D. Stores get money, there's royalties, etc.

 

[Snaku]

:lol Neo-Jaffe

Yeah, I like that too. :lol Ps3forum doods don't like Jaffe?

 

[Odysseus]

There's advertising, manufacturing, shipping, etc. A lot more goes into the cost of a $50 game than just R&D. Stores get money, there's royalties, etc.

for real

i don't know exactly, but i've always heard that platform royalties are around $10. could be higher or lower than actuality. retailers might pay $42 per $50 game. assuming there are no other distribution costs involved (yeah right), the publisher is already down to $32 of direct revenue on the game.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

I like the PS3 is futureproofed argument.

cause it's going to look so future proofed with its 10 year life cycle when Microsoft drops another new generation console in 5 years :lol

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

I like the PS3 is futureproofed argument.

cause it's going to look so future proofed with its 10 year life cycle when Microsoft drops another new generation console in 5 years :lol

I love the built-in hypocrisy of people claiming the Wii has "last-gen graphics" then anticipating the PS3 for ten years.

 

[Masklinn]

for real

i don't know exactly, but i've always heard that platform royalties are around $10. could be higher or lower than actuality. retailers might pay $42 per $50 game. assuming there are no other distribution costs involved (yeah right), the publisher is already down to $32 of direct revenue on the game.

They're probably not completely valid anymore, and I don't know if they were actually valid at any point, but I think this is interesting and looks fairly good:

For example, assume a game cost $7,000,000 to develop (about average for a new console game) and a 20 percent royalty is to be paid to the developer. The retail price is $49 and the wholesale price is $32. The fees payable to the console manufacture, marketing and distribution average around $11. That leaves $20 to be split between the publisher and the developer.

http://news.pghtech.org/teq/teqstory.cfm?id=1276

edit: ok, who plays heeseop on the PS3 forums? This can't be real:

The PS2 was not a stupid fad console with a poc nunchucka, it is the most poluar console of all time. The library of games for PS2 is thousands compared to the Wii stellar lineup of Wii sports and NOTHING!!!!!

Do you mean 25mil in japan alone? Because they're on track to reach far more than 25mil WW by 2010.

Im talking in the US, and 24 mil of those will be in peoples closets as the fad wears off. and the rest will be playing Wii sports 3 that will look like MLB 2k3.

[...]

You're in for a very bleak future I think.

Hell no I am not. I have the best console in the PS3 and will be watching media and listening to songs that stream from my PC, watching blu-ray movies in 1080P, playing Socom 5, 6, 7 as well as tons of other great games.

Sorry my friend, but the future is not bleak at all for those with a PS3. The future is much bleaker for those not on the PS3 bandwagon.

Sometimes it just takes some longer to wake up and smell the coffee. Just like the 40 million morons that voted for Bush, not once but twice.

 

[sphinx]

wow, that heeseop guy is really one interesting case. we should inviting him to come over and discuss the future of gaming.

 

[SouthernDragon]

I wanna see someone try and reason with them.

 

[Masklinn]

I wanna see someone try and reason with them.

I'm in there, some of them seem to be nice and reasoned so the conversation is not bad per se as long as you ignore heeseop.

 

[fly high ~ayunite~]

Sony is already winning...I don't know why people are complaining...PS3 is the best console ever created and it's too bad that Ken Kutaragi resigned...he will be missed...but he might have left his plans for the PS4 with Sony so we should be alright even with the PS4 in 10 years time...

Sony is taking a loss for us the fans and some of the people on here are not re-paying that respect well enough...

Go beg, steal or borrow some money to get a PS3 if you have too...IT MUST BE DONE...Sony deserves at the very least people buying the greatest gaming machine...doesn't matter if the games aren't there...FOLD for now and you can help mankind...and the world with curing sickness. It is worth getting a PS3 just for that...it's a great cause...

Sony will wipe te floor with Micro-gay and Ninten-kid...watch...you will all see.

http://www.ps3forums.com/showpost.php?p=1457521&postcount=8

 

[test_account]

My point is that a PC game doesn't come for free to the devs, and the fact that they have to bake the graphic variability in the game (and cope with more than a dozen GCs, not even taking in account the high variability of CPU performances and stuff) means that the time they have to spend on the graphics and graphics engine highers exponentially with the quality they want to output at max settings

If it takes longer time to make a GFX engine for PC, i have no idea. But most (if not all) engines are build to have customiations (or whats it called) possibilies. You build one engine and tweak if from there to work the best on 360/PS3/PC and so on. It wouldnt be very smart to make a GFX engine without many options and possibilies to tweak. But time isnt really an issue, i mean whats possible with PC visually compared to consoles.

My only point was that PC hardware will always be ahead of consoles when it comes to power (unless someone start making a ~$1000++ console). As said, consoles are locked to hardware. It takes maybe like 5 years between consoles. In this 5 year time period new and better technology have been avalible so PC is atleast one step ahead all the way.

Buy the parts, build the box yourself.

Well.. true in some cases. I've built my last 3 PCs. Before it was more cheap to build yourself, but today its really not that much difference in price to buy parts and build yourself or to buy a pre-made one, atleast where i live. I tried to compare an Alienware PC to $4149 to parts over at Newegg.com. Problem is that its not possible to get the exact same specs, but i tried to get as close as possible. Its abit cheaper, but afaik Alienware tweak their PC to take more advantage of the hardware so even if both same CPU it might be that AW is preforming better. So i'm not sure if its a fair comparing or not.

 

[SovanJedi]

Ouch at that last quote from the PS3Forums.

Also, have we had any update on Vinnk's proposal yet?

 

[Vinnk]

She Said Yes!

Ok, I need to get some sleep.

 

[Masklinn]

http://www.ps3forums.com/showpost.php?p=1457521&postcount=8

I'm pretty sure Vision of Division is a gaffer playing with them

 

[psy18]

CongratS!! Omedetto!

 

[Masklinn]

She Said Yes!

Ok, I need to get some sleep.

WOOOOHOOOO

Congratulation dude

(and lol @pic name)

Spoiler

the cake is so cute:lol

 

[Jammy]

She Said Yes!

Ok, I need to get some sleep.

Aww. Congrats, man!

 

[test_account]

She Said Yes!

Congrats!

 

[Cheesemeister]

She Said Yes!

Sold!

Because it's a sales thread.

婚約おめでとうございます。

 

[magiustra]

She Said Yes!

Hurrà!

 

[Masklinn]

Sold!

Because it's a sales thread.

婚約おめでとうございます。

You forgot the pacman chart!

 

[Kafel]

She Said Yes!

*claps*

 

[apotema]

She Said Yes!

Ok, I need to get some sleep.

Yay!!!! Buy her a DS!

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

She Said Yes!

Ok, I need to get some sleep.

This news and the accompanying picture totally changed my mood for the day. Congrats man!

 

[D.Lo]

Congrats Vinnk!

 

[SovanJedi]

Congratulations fellah!

Now hopefully your future Village reports will have a little more of a jovial tone to them.

(Better make sure she's comfortable with you farting in bed though. I heard it takes away your Wii-playing priveleges.)

 

[kisakiproject]

First day sales?

 

[Scum]

She Said Yes!

Ok, I need to get some sleep.

Yay! \o/
Congrats, Vinnk!! Nice one! When I get back in from work, you're getting a dancing .gif!

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

I love the built-in hypocrisy of people claiming the Wii has "last-gen graphics" then anticipating the PS3 for ten years.

Boom goes the dynamite?


Congrats Vinnk.

 

[Jammy]

Does anybody know when Mario Strikers: Charged and Mario Party 8 hit Japan? If I recall correctly, their predecessors sold well on the GCN.

 

[Xzbeat]

She Said Yes!

Ok, I need to get some sleep.

Omedetou Gazaimasu !!!
*claps*

 

[cw_sasuke]

She Said Yes!

*pic*



Ok, I need to get some sleep.

oh gratz my friend, wish u good luck

 

[Parl]

Congratulations, Vinnk.

 

[Cheesemeister]

You forgot the pacman chart!

 

[1-D_FTW]

Well.. true in some cases. I've built my last 3 PCs. Before it was more cheap to build yourself, but today its really not that much difference in price to buy parts and build yourself or to buy a pre-made one, atleast where i live. I tried to compare an Alienware PC to $4149 to parts over at Newegg.com. Problem is that its not possible to get the exact same specs, but i tried to get as close as possible. Its abit cheaper, but afaik Alienware tweak their PC to take more advantage of the hardware so even if both same CPU it might be that AW is preforming better. So i'm not sure if its a fair comparing or not.

You're crazy. What's there to tweak? You mean overclocking? Overvolting? Downloading all the latest drivers and installing them? Alienware doesn't do anything any competent enthusiast doesn't do themselves (and probably better).

 

[Earthstrike]

Congrats to Vinnk. May all attempts at number spinning be saved til next week.

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

She Said Yes!

Ok, I need to get some sleep.

Congratulations !!!

 

[Tf53]

So, shall we speculate on the market share Vinnk's new wife-to-be is going to have of Vinnk's money?

Congrats!

Edit: Oh, you popped the question with the plate? Swanky.

 

[Verve]

congratulations, vinnk


but.. to keep MC threads interesting for the time 360 not outselling ps3, we need one GAFfer a week to propose. let's make a schedule, who volunteers for next week?