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[LanceStern]

Maybe this chart might be a little bit easier. Forgive me if it was already stated:

Results/Analysis
> For DS to NOT beat its 2006 YTD by the end of Quarter 2 (Week 26), it would have to average sales below 52,000 units per week for the next 5 weeks
> The DS is now more easily accesible in Japan and seems to be comfortably averaging 100k - 130k units per week, more than enough to beat it's 2006 YTD.
> The DS has already passed its 2005 LTD by a substantial amount.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Not true. I play Zelda II on emulator because my cartridge will erase its saves every week or so.

The other games? Well...

That's my point. maybe one out of every 100 people will use it for A legit reason, but they'll also use it for "other" games, as you put it, and it's ridiculous seeing everyone BS their way around it. :lol

 

[GaimeGuy]

A ****ing lie. I rip my own PS1 games for the thing all the damn time.

And is that all you use it for? :lol

 

[Oldschool]

Really bad sales for BH4 WII.

FFI PSP sold better than this.:lol

 

[Diablos54]

Really bad sales for BH4 WII.

FFI PSP sold better than this.:lol

FF's much bigger than RE in Japan though, espically RE4.

 

[apujanata]

Maybe this chart might be a little bit easier. Forgive me if it was already stated:

Results/Analysis
> For DS to NOT beat its 2006 YTD by the end of Quarter 2 (Week 26), it would have to average sales below 52,000 units per week for the next 5 weeks
> The DS is now more easily accesible in Japan and seems to be comfortably averaging 100k - 130k units per week, more than enough to beat it's 2006 YTD.
> The DS has already passed its 2005 LTD by a substantial amount.

The more interesting part is : For DS to NOT beat its 2006 YTD by end of Dec, it would have to average sales below xxxxx units per week.

 

[Oldschool]

FF's much bigger than RE in Japan though, espically RE4.

FFI + II for gba sold approximately 250k.

RE4 PS2 sold approximately 450k.

and FFI is a cheap remake.

 

[Jokeropia]

FFI PSP sold better than this.:lol

FFI PSP did 48,559 in it's first week, RE4 Wii sold 30k in one day.

Capcom's expectations for the game is 450k worldwide which shouldn't be any problems.

 

[Link]

FFI + II for gba sold approximately 250k.

RE4 PS2 sold approximately 450k.

and FFI is a cheap remake.

And RE4's already been released twice in the last two years.

 

[pgtl_10]

Why are GAFers are fascinated with sales threads? On the IGN boards the threads will last a few days with a few pages or so then the thread will dissapear. Here GAF has charts, analysis, fanboy fights, and several pics about the console or handheld that is winning.

 

[Corwood Rep]

And is that all you use it for? :lol

No, but I don't think anybody's going to throw much of a shitfit over SCUMM emulation and overclocking these days.

 

[Corwood Rep]

Why are GAFers are fascinated with sales threads? On the IGN boards the threads will last a few days with a few pages or so then the thread will dissapear. Here GAF has charts, analysis, fanboy fights, and several pics about the console or handheld that is winning.

Because the IGN forums, by and large, are worthless.

 

[SouthernDragon]

Why are GAFers are fascinated with sales threads? On the IGN boards the threads will last a few days with a few pages or so then the thread will dissapear. Here GAF has charts, analysis, fanboy fights, and several pics about the console or handheld that is winning.

It shows the direction of the industry.

 

[Scum]

Why are GAFers are fascinated with sales threads? On the IGN boards the threads will last a few days with a few pages or so then the thread will dissapear. Here GAF has charts, analysis, fanboy fights, and several pics about the console or handheld that is winning.

 

[pgtl_10]

Because the IGN forums, by and large, are worthless.

Coming from a long time member of those forums.

 

[pgtl_10]

:lol Your right

 

[Haunted]

Coming from a long time member of those forums.

Be glad he saw the light that is NeoGAF instead of complaining that he wandered in the dark for so long.

 

[Juwanna Peezadis]

:lol Your right

=(

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Why are GAFers are fascinated with sales threads? On the IGN boards the threads will last a few days with a few pages or so then the thread will dissapear. Here GAF has charts, analysis, fanboy fights, and several pics about the console or handheld that is winning.

One, it's more interesting to see current trends evolve over time. Two, there is a huge shift actively going on in all phases of the industry. A paradigm shift in control and gameplay with an active push to expand the industry. As Sony showed, market expansion benefits everybody. All happening before our eyes, within a period of 2 years. Recorded for history and such. You can blame it on the internet. It's a different experience since we are so connected.

 

[jj984jj]

Really bad sales for BH4 WII.

FFI PSP sold better than this.:lol

Huh? They both did 30k according to sinobi, and this is the same RE4 released in 2005... twice. Not sure why people expect so much out of it. Now if it sold less than 10-20k that would be a different story, 2k would be laughable. I mean it's the same game with waggle, only the hardcore will care enough to get the definitive version given the differences.

 

[Corwood Rep]

Coming from a long time member of those forums.

Strictly because I enjoy the one community board I post at. That, and I enjoy laughing at the General Boards. I haven't paid for a subscription in years though.

 

[TJ Spyke]

Huh? They both did 30k according to sinobi, and this is the same RE4 release in 2005... twice. Not sure why people expect so much out of it. Now if it sold less than 10-20k that would be a different story, 2k would be laughable. I mean it's the same game with waggle, only the hardcore will care enough to get the definitive version given the differences.

The Wii version is the only one with real widescreen (not that black bar BS) and the Ada's misssion portions have been re-done with the GameCube versions graphics. It's pretty much the same game though.

 

[RiskyChris]

Why are GAFers are fascinated with sales threads? On the IGN boards the threads will last a few days with a few pages or so then the thread will dissapear. Here GAF has charts, analysis, fanboy fights, and several pics about the console or handheld that is winning.

IGN users by and large are too ignorant to notice the significance of sales charts?

 

[LCGeek]

Coming from a long time member of those forums.

Glad to see ya got sick of WiiGB and the rest of the crap found often at ign.

 

[Deku]

This week's high horse rant brought to you by pgtl_10.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

FF's much bigger than RE in Japan though, espically RE4.

Plus, even if Wii is the new hotness there are still twice as many PSPs.

 

[GaimeGuy]

No

I rest my case.

 

[Phife Dawg]

Really bad sales for BH4 WII.

FFI PSP sold better than this.:lol

Look what we have here. Did you too expect sales of at least 100.000 day one? :lol

The Wii version is the only one with real widescreen (not that black bar BS) and the Ada's misssion portions have been re-done with the GameCube versions graphics. It's pretty much the same game though.

I haven't played it but afaik the PS2 version had "real" widescreen.

 

[legend166]

Because the IGN forums, by and large, are worthless.

wiicb representin'

 

[Corwood Rep]

Andy, don't acknowledge that board in an actual forum such as this, or people like pgtl_10 might get ideas.

I rest my case.

You have not rested any case.

I never said I was a strict goody-two-shoes about 100% obeying copyright law (especially as it applies to defunct systems or systems/engines you can't play on handhelds, like MAME and SCUMM). I just said it's a ****ing lie that nobody rips their own games to the PSP.

It is very easy with the bajillion GUIs out there to rip your PS1 discs to the PSP, and it's a hell of a lot less time-consuming or bandwidth-intensive as pirating them. Ditto for SCUMM games. That's all I was saying.

 

[GaimeGuy]

You have not rested any case.

I never said I was a strict goody-two-shoes about 100% obeying copyright law

But that was what I was trying to say! :lol

 

[Corwood Rep]

Nice edit.

Anyway, the only point I was criticizing was the notion that nobody legitimately rips PS1 or PC games to the system. I don't care about whatever copyright thing you were going on about. You just need to reevaluate that specific premise as it applies to the rest of your argument. Anecdotally, just look at the Christmas Wet Dream thread and you'll notice about a bajillion posts referencing Popstation and various Popstation GUIs as evidence that a very large chunk of PSP owners are ripping games legitimately instead of committing outright piracy.

 

[Vinnk]

30k for a re-release of a game that came out 2 years ago. Pretty good.

It will send a message to Capcom for sure. I hope the message is, an RE:4 style game can work well on the Wii and I hope the message is not "Hey, what other Gamecube stuff we got lying around, there's mney to be made here?"

Then again, I'd buy a Killer 7 Wii.

 

[SouthernDragon]

I'd buy SF3 Wii.

I'm so easy, Capcom. They ported Accent Core (EXCITE) to Wii, and I love my 2D fighters, even if I suck at them. Port this, bundle it with SF2 and Alpha 3, and all is forgiven.

 

[KINGMOKU]

30k for a re-release of a game that came out 2 years ago. Pretty good.

It will send a message to Capcom for sure. I hope the message is, an RE:4 style game can work well on the Wii and I hope the message is not "Hey, what other Gamecube stuff we got lying around, there's mney to be made here?"

Then again, I'd buy a Killer 7 Wii.

Send a messege to Capcom? You would need something stronger.

Some companies just dont seem to follow a logical pattern when deciding where games go, what games to create, what games to produce a sequel, e.t.c.

Sega is the worst offender of this, and Capcom is quickly catching up to them.

I doubt this will send ANY messege to Capcom. If anything, I expect them to produce nothing but garbage over the Wii's lifespan.

The only thing that could shake someone like Capcom, is to just pull the DS license, untill they obey.

Some companies would respond instantly to that, but it could Put Nintendo in a bad light again~pre-gamecube days.

 

[BrodiemanTTR]

30k for a re-release of a game that came out 2 years ago. Pretty good.

It will send a message to Capcom for sure. I hope the message is, an RE:4 style game can work well on the Wii and I hope the message is not "Hey, what other Gamecube stuff we got lying around, there's mney to be made here?"

Then again, I'd buy a Killer 7 Wii.

Wishful thinking.

The only thing that could shake someone like Capcom, is to just pull the DS license, untill they obey.

Some companies would respond instantly to that, but it could Put Nintendo in a bad light again~pre-gamecube days.

What third parties besides Square are even doing anything on DS? Not Capcom, not Konami, not Namco. The same people half-assing it on Wii are the ones half-assing it on DS.

 

[BrodiemanTTR]

Double post

 

[Vinnk]

What third parties besides Square are even doing anything on DS? Not Capcom, not Konami, not Namco. The same people half-assing it on Wii are the ones half-assing it on DS.

I'm pretty sure Gyakuten Saiban was very profitable. It dosn't look like it was a very expensive game to make. Of course orther than that Capcom has been more or less ignoring the system.

I know konami has put a few games on the DS but other than Castlevania, I can't even recall what they are..

 

[BrodiemanTTR]

I know konami has put a few games on the DS but other than Castlevania, I can't even recall what they are..

Boktai, Yu-Gi-Oh, and GoPets.

 

[Diablos54]

wiicb representin'

WiiGB > CB . Doesn't matter, GAF > Both anyway.

 

[Terrell]

Send a messege to Capcom? You would need something stronger.

Some companies just dont seem to follow a logical pattern when deciding where games go, what games to create, what games to produce a sequel, e.t.c.

Sega is the worst offender of this, and Capcom is quickly catching up to them.

I doubt this will send ANY messege to Capcom. If anything, I expect them to produce nothing but garbage over the Wii's lifespan.

The only thing that could shake someone like Capcom, is to just pull the DS license, untill they obey.

Some companies would respond instantly to that, but it could Put Nintendo in a bad light again~pre-gamecube days.

Yes, I agree with this... how can you go from making smart decisions with Dreamcast to being completely and utterly retarded? Well.... I suppose the fact that they were actually making money for once may have had something to do with it....

 

[Vinnk]

Very true though. The market has been sending plenty of messages to Capcom.

 

[cvxfreak]

Umbrella Chronicles is the strongest looking third party game on the Wii right now outside of Dragon Quest Swords and possibly FFCC. I don't see the point of Capcom not doing good stuff for the Wii.

 

[ethelred]

I doubt this will send ANY messege to Capcom. If anything, I expect them to produce nothing but garbage over the Wii's lifespan.

Treasure Island Z looks like one of the best games coming for the system, third party or first party. So I've got few complaints at the moment.

The only thing that could shake someone like Capcom, is to just pull the DS license, untill they obey.

Some companies would respond instantly to that, but it could Put Nintendo in a bad light again~pre-gamecube days.

Pre-GameCube? It'd be more like a return to NES-style fascism. Not exactly a desirable outcome.

Yes, I agree with this... how can you go from making smart decisions with Dreamcast to being completely and utterly retarded? Well.... I suppose the fact that they were actually making money for once may have had something to do with it....

Because the Sega of the Dreamcast days is dead? Seriously, people are still acting like Sega wasn't killed off in 2003. The company doesn't exist anymore.

Very true though. The market has been sending plenty of messages to Capcom.

Messages like "You're doing great, Capcom, here's another million-seller?"

 

[sprsk]

Pre-GameCube? It'd be more like a return to NES-style fascism. Not exactly a desirable outcome.

Well come on now, you can't expect Iwata to run things exactly like Yamauchi did.

 

[Deku]

People getting bent out of shape over support from certain publishers need to pause and re-examine what's going on. I think the publishers are as confused as we are. Granted some on GAF are convinced the market will move one way or the other, the collective cacophony is that we really don't know either.

Capcom will support the Wii when they can make a buck off of it. The PS3 situation isn't any better. There's been a total lack of new game announcements lately.

If you want to panic and spaz out, wait until they've had a chance to make the announcements, post E3 and probably post TGS if you're dealing with the more ethno-centric game developers, S-E et al.

 

[cvxfreak]

Well come on now, you can't expect Iwata to run things exactly like Yamauchi did.

It's not so much Nintendo policy as it is how frightening some of these posts that call for third party "obedience."

 

[TheKingsCrown]

Well come on now, you can't expect Iwata to run things exactly like Yamauchi did.

True, Yamauchi ran things like he did because he was an arch-emperor from the past. Iwata is like a water slide into the future.

 

[ethelred]

Well come on now, you can't expect Iwata to run things exactly like Yamauchi did.

It's not so much Nintendo policy as it is how frightening some of these posts that call for third party "obedience."

Right, exactly. I don't really understand why certain people agitate for moves like that, I don't think that'd be a good thing for the industry, and I don't think it'd be a good thing for Nintendo (because that kind of attitude, as we have seen, builds up an enormous amount of resentment, enmity, and fear from third parties which lessens their desire to cooperate with the company in the future).

 

[Vinnk]

Regardles of any of this, Nintendo is getting more console support this generation than any time since the SNES days. It's all steps in the right direction. The only reason Nintendo fans arn't 100% satisfied with this is the fact that the Wii is so white-hot right now it just dosn't seem like enough.