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Media Create Sales 6/18 - 6/24
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Forgotten Ancient
Banned
psy18 said:
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I pretty much hated music on for every DS game until I started using headphones.
On the whole NSMB debate. I've never been into the Mario games much (so I'm not tainted by nostalgia). I've finished Mario 1, 2, Lost Levels, 3, SMW, and NSMB.
I really liked NSMB. It was probably the best Mario game I had played, however it was way too easy. Also, going back for all the coins wasn't interesting enough so I gave up. Basically, I'd say it was a great game but had no longevity at all.
I think the secret as to why it's selling so massively is because of the mini games. My wife and I was hooked on them for a while. And about 8 of us used to play them at DS parties. I never played them solo, but my wife did, for a very long time. I honestly believe this is the reason why the game won't stop selling. Non gamers and party gamers love the mini games.
I really liked NSMB. It was probably the best Mario game I had played, however it was way too easy. Also, going back for all the coins wasn't interesting enough so I gave up. Basically, I'd say it was a great game but had no longevity at all.
I think the secret as to why it's selling so massively is because of the mini games. My wife and I was hooked on them for a while. And about 8 of us used to play them at DS parties. I never played them solo, but my wife did, for a very long time. I honestly believe this is the reason why the game won't stop selling. Non gamers and party gamers love the mini games.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
This Week Sales:
Since 11/27/07:
30 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales.
24 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.
360 - Established Trend: 2-4k. Next Gen Avg = 6,871. Post Holiday Avg = 4,050.
Wii - Established Trend: 62-68k. Next Gen Avg = 93,353. Post Holiday Avg = 70,234.
PS3 - Established Trend: 7-9k. Next Gen Avg = 31,286. Post Holiday Avg = 17,128.
Results, Analysis, & Expectations
● 360: Established trend of not selling at all. This will not change. 3k now until the the XBOX3 comes out.
● PS3: Established that this is a flop. This will not change. Big titles will give it some life but this thing is dead. 9k-ish until the next 'big' game, and then only a momentary bump.
● Wii: Established that this will sell very well. This will continue, as shipments have definitely solidified. 65-70k for the rest of the summer.
Expectations for 06/25 - 07/01
360 - 3.2k*
Wii - 68k**
PS3 - 8.5k*
* = within 1k estimation success the previous week.
** Within 3k estimation success the previous week.
(this is getting boring)
Market Share:
LTD Market Share Week-to-Week
Significant Notes:
● The Wii has extended its lead to 1,862,020 over the PS3.
● 78,532 consoles sold this week. Wii had 83.5% of all console sales, up 4.5% from the previous week.
● The Wii has sold more than 44k for 30 weeks in a row.
● The PS3 has sold less than 10k for 7 weeks in a row.
Since 11/27/07:
30 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales.
24 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.
360 - Established Trend: 2-4k. Next Gen Avg = 6,871. Post Holiday Avg = 4,050.
Wii - Established Trend: 62-68k. Next Gen Avg = 93,353. Post Holiday Avg = 70,234.
PS3 - Established Trend: 7-9k. Next Gen Avg = 31,286. Post Holiday Avg = 17,128.
Results, Analysis, & Expectations
● 360: Established trend of not selling at all. This will not change. 3k now until the the XBOX3 comes out.
● PS3: Established that this is a flop. This will not change. Big titles will give it some life but this thing is dead. 9k-ish until the next 'big' game, and then only a momentary bump.
● Wii: Established that this will sell very well. This will continue, as shipments have definitely solidified. 65-70k for the rest of the summer.
Expectations for 06/25 - 07/01
360 - 3.2k*
Wii - 68k**
PS3 - 8.5k*
* = within 1k estimation success the previous week.
** Within 3k estimation success the previous week.
(this is getting boring)
Market Share:
LTD Market Share Week-to-Week
Code:
Date____ 360 Wii PS3
11/27-12/03: 25% 49% 26%
12/04-12/10: 24% 49% 27%
12/11-12/17: 21% 50% 29%
12/18-12/24: 17% 57% 26%
12/25-12/31: 16% 56% 28%
01/01-01/07: 15% 58% 27%
01/08-01/14: 14% 59% 27%
01/15-01/21: 14% 60% 26%
01/22-01/28: 13% 60% 26%
01/29-02/04: 13% 61% 26%
02/05-02/11: 13% 61% 26%
02/12-02/18: 13% 62% 26%
02/19-02/25: 12% 62% 25%
03/26-03/04: 12% 62% 26%
03/05-03/11: 12% 62% 26%
03/12-03/18: 11% 62% 26%
03/19-03/25: 11% 63% 26%
03/26-04/01: 11% 63% 26%
04/02-04/08: 11% 63% 26%
04/09-04/15: 11% 64% 26%
04/16-04/22: 10% 64% 25%
04/23-04/29: 10% 65% 25%
04/30-05/06: 10% 66% 24%
05/07-05/13: 10% 66% 24%
05/14-05/20: 10% 66% 24%
05/21-05/27: 10% 67% 24%
05/28-06/03: 09% 67% 23%
06/04-06/10: 09% 67% 23%
06/11-06/17: 09% 68% 23%
06/18-06/24: 09% 68% 23%Significant Notes:
● The Wii has extended its lead to 1,862,020 over the PS3.
● 78,532 consoles sold this week. Wii had 83.5% of all console sales, up 4.5% from the previous week.
● The Wii has sold more than 44k for 30 weeks in a row.
● The PS3 has sold less than 10k for 7 weeks in a row.
The Hermit
Member
Saitou said:
Are you being sarcastic? Cause if not, it really improves the sound... Canvas Curse sounded even awesomer than I though!
Anyway, about NSMB, I don´t understand why people complain about that game and, at the same time, praise the annoying Yoshi Island DS.
I haven´t see none do that in this especific thread, but I usually see YIDS receiving more praise than New Super Mario ,when it should be the opposite.
Cheesemeister
Member
What, no cumulative chart? =(
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Cheesemeister said:
Is that what I'm forgetting?
ComputerNerd
Banned
Hey Panther, this part:
PS3 - Established Trend: 7-9k. Next Gen Avg = 31,286. Post Holiday Avg = 31,286.
Doesn't seem right.
PS3 - Established Trend: 7-9k. Next Gen Avg = 31,286. Post Holiday Avg = 31,286.
Doesn't seem right.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
ComputerNerd said:
:lol
Good catch. (that's an error from inserting more rows btw). It should read:
PS3 - Established Trend: 7-9k. Next Gen Avg = 31,286. Post Holiday Avg = 17,128.
(will edit in)
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And thanks guys for actually reading it and observing it. I get thanked every week but nobody ever really offers different or challenging views of the data, so I never know if people are really reading it. Thanks.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Saitou said:
You guys are making this a lot more work than I wanted to spend on it this week! Boring week, exactly as predicted for console sales. I want to see some spikes and valleys. I need some action to really get motivated to write about it.
This thing was over 3 months ago. Now its a matter of predicting who will get what games, how long until what console hits what mark, and when and which consoles will be discontinued first. I'm only actually posting this shit for consistency's sake so when Christmas rolls around I have a nice history of charted data to look off of. But good god this season is boring.
VultureDude
Member
schuelma said:
seems reasonable if they're going for their projected 420k worldwide figure...
PantherLotus said:
Can we get the stat for 50K (which is more standard than 44K) ?
7 weeks of 10K- is really bad. I wonder if it can continue up to 10 weeks ?
Well, when you have a clear winner, it is boring. Same thing happen during PS2 Era, GBA Era.
The only drama is DS vs PSP on 2006 and PS3 vs Wii at Q1 2007.
Jasoncheng
Member
Dengeki-Ranking
http://www.dengekionline.com/soft/ranking.html
TOP50
NDS:29
Wii:7
PSP:6
PS2:3
PS3:3
XBOX360:2
http://www.dengekionline.com/soft/ranking.html
TOP50
NDS:29
Wii:7
PSP:6
PS2:3
PS3:3
XBOX360:2
"Vinnk's Village" Anecdotal Report
Its been a while since I posted the background information about Vinnks Village, so for all those who are new to the sales age threads, he is a bit about where I live and the stores I gather numbers from.
My town is in Oita Prefecture (in the Kyushu Region) the population is 80,000 (or 60,000 before it merged with 4 surrounding small villages), which is quite small by Japanese standards.
I will track sales from all the stores that sell video games. They are:
2 department stores that sell games (Jusco and Youme Town)
1 discount store with a very small game section. (Mr.Max)
1 manga/anime/game store (Book-net)
1 porn store that tries to look legitimate buy having a small game/DVD section in the front and a massive porn section behind a curtain. (Goody)
1 electronics chain store with a game section (Best Denki)
2 dedicated game stores (Wanpaku and Famicom Dojo)
Yamada Denki, a new electronics store with a fairly extensive game section.
Most anecdotal reports come from big cities like Tokyo and Osaka and in those places people will line up for new games and things sell out all the time. It doesnt always paint a very accurate picture of Japan outside of metropolitan areas. My numbers are not supposed to represent Japan, but are just my observations based on the town I happen to live in.
This week I was asked to look for: Wii, DS lite, Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Folks Soul and Itadaki Street.. I went Thursday June 28h, 2007:
Jusco
Wii: Sold out
DS lite: 2 (old colors)
Zelda: PH: Sold out
Folks Soul: 2
Itadaki Street: 3
Youme Town
Wii: Sold out
DS lite: 4 (old colors)
Zelda: PH: Sold out
Folks Soul: 2
Itadaki Street: 1
Mr. Max
Wii: Sold out
DS lite: Sold out
Zelda: PH: Sold out
Folks Soul: Sold out or didnt order
Itadaki Street: 2
Book-Net
Wii: Sold out
DS lite: 6 (2 of new colors, 4 of old)
Zelda: PH: Sold out
Folks Soul: 3
Itadaki Street: 2
Goody
Wii: Sold out
DS lite: 1 (white) 3 (used)
Zelda: PH: Sold out
Folks Soul: Didnt ever have it
Itadaki Street: None
Best Denki
Wii: 1
DS lite: 8 (old colors) Unknown number of Used
Zelda: PH: Sold out
Folks Soul: 4
Itadaki Street: 3
Wanpaku
Wii: 1
DS lite: Sold out (but 4 used)
Zelda: PH: 2 (but sold out now)
Folks Soul: Sold out
Itadaki Street: 2
Famicom Dojo
Wii: Sold out
DS lite: Sold out (3 used)
Zelda: PH: Sold out
Folks Soul: Never ordered it
Itadaki Street: sold out
Yamada Denki
Wii: 1
DS lite: 4 (old colors)
Zelda: PH: Sold out
Folks Soul: 2 (possibly more in back)
Itadaki Street: 4
TOTALS:
Wii: 3
DS lite: 2 (new colors), 23 (old colors), Many used systems
Zelda: PH: 2 (but sold out now)
Folks Soul: 13
Itadaki Street: 17
NOTES:
1. Wii is still very supply constrained. Any store that does have them doesnt have them for long. I think I can copy and paste this statement until after Christmas.
2. The new colors of the DS lite are almost completely sold out. But DS lites in general can be found at most stores. If you include used DS lites, they can be found at even more. It seems people are trading in their old DS lites when they buy the new colors. In my opinion demand for the system hasnt increased sharply. People are buying up the new colors but they are likely people who were planning to buy a DS anyway (new colors or not) and those trading for a new color.
3. Folks Soul is odd. It was very available when I was shopping this weekend but right now Wanpaku (the largest dedicated game store) is sold out. All other stores still have copies. Perhaps it was the trailers they were showing in store (no other stores had made a display for this game). It almost made me want to buy it.
4. Zelda also performed kind of oddly in my town. Usually a game goes one of three ways: Its a smash and sells out in 1 or 2 days, its a flop and it hits the bargain bin in a month or it sells what the retailers expected and always keeps s a moderate amount on the shelves. Zelda fits into a brand new 4th category. The game sold out, but it took a while to do so. When I went shopping on Tuesday, there were still copies on the shelves, which I wasnt expecting. By the time I went to do my report however (Thursday around 5:00-7:30) it was sold out at every store except the biggest game store (Wanpaku). And while I was browsing the Wonderswan games, the 2 they had were bought. So as of right now my entire town is sold out of the game, but it took 5 days to do it. This is my first time to see this slow burn effect. I would really like to hear about what happened in the larger cities. The only theory I can offer is that Nintendo just really shipped a lot of copies and that it appealed to more than just the hardcore, who NEED to buy it on the first day. Nintendo was also running ads for it at about the same pace they did before its launch. Or course all this is just theory until we can compare this with the shipped number and next weeks sales.
5. Itadaki Street seems to be selling well, but Zelda overshadowed its launch. None of the stores have demo units or displays up for the game.
6. I saw my first used copy of Trusty Bell this week. No used bundles yet which is a bit surprising since I saw those just days after Blue Dragon went on sale. Maybe people are deciding to keep their 360s this time. Or maybe they are waiting for a Wii to be in stock to trade it in
Previous Reports:
June 21st, 2007
June 14th, 2007
June 7th, 2007
May 30th, 2007
May 24th, 2007
May 17th, 2007
May 10th, 2007
BONUS: Ask Vinnk
davepoobond said:
Cheesemeister said:
davepoobond said:
Actually its totally fine. I dont bug anyone with what I do and never pester the workers. At most stores they dont even notice I am there. The department stores dont have designated video game people, the porn store leaves their games unattended and unguarded (if I wanted to I could probably steal anything I wanted to). The only places that have even noticed my pattern are Famicom Dojo and Wanpaku.
Hiro who works at Famicom dojo (the family business) is a good friend of mine and he has numbers for me before I even open the door. If I dont have time to go down there and physically count stuff, he gives the numbers to me over the phone. But I almost always go there anyway because I like the store and discussing gaming with Hiro and his regulars who are a very interesting bunch.
The staff of Wanpaku knows me and they also know from my point card that I am a very good customer. My counting doesn't bother them. Or perhaps it does a bit, but not nearly as much as all the DS kids who are at the store almost every day, sitting on the floor by the DS download station. They stay for hours and never buy anything. I count for 3 minutes and often pick up something.
So fear not, I am in very little danger of being arrested for shopping. And if I ever were kicked out of a store, it would make a great post.
ComputerNerd
Banned
Thanks Vinnk!
jamesinclair
Banned
nextgeneration said:Probably not, since the LTD of ps3 in Japan has yet to hit 1 million.
This is a good point
clearacell
Member
Xeke said:
Well, there are some games you cannot find on a non-portable system. Meteos is awesome when hooked up to large speakers.
RiskyChris
Banned
clearacell said:
Mmm....
ComputerNerd
Banned
Terrell said:
Not in the slightest. All it has to do is keep outselling it more than 3:1. Something it's bound to do.
nextgeneration
Member
ComputerNerd said:
LTD, it's approaching 3 to 1 and will exceed that by next week. In the past 11 weeks alone, Wii has outsold PS3 by nearly 7 to 1.