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Media Create Sales 6/25 - 7/1
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SouthernDragon
Member
This is an excellent idea.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Saitou said:
I don't have the figures for it, that's all. Unfortunately the data for the SNES/Genesis era or earlier is very hard to come by... same reason why Pokemon Pinball and the Pokemon Card games are not listed on the Pokemon graph.
If anyone has the data for any games I'm missing, I'd be happy to update all of the graphs.
Sorry, the idea of Wii not being "next-gen" is a new phenomenon applied to our vernacular so that trolls had something to chant when trying to feel superior about supporting a "real" next-gen system. Journalists had nothing to do with this abuse of the English language, it's mostly a message board thing brought on by some off-the-cuff remark Reggie made when accused that Wii wasn't next-gen. It's also total bull. If it's a new piece of hardware introduced to supersede a current product, it's a next-generation product, PERIOD.jetjevons said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
CoolTrick said:
I'll just include the original data for the main series games; courtesy of Moor-Angol, whose data is originally Famitsu AFAIK.
Pokemon Red / Blue / Green 5.655.675
Pokemon Gold / Silver 5.535.977
Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire 5.322.096
Pokemon Diamond / Pearl 5.173.883
Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green 2.660.977
Pocket Monsters Pikachu 1.900.882
Pokemon Emerald 1.855.151
Pokemon Crystal 1.845.630
The only thing that might support these numbers being wrong is that Moor Angol has the RBG numbers listed as "Red / Blue" and I'm not sure if that's intented to be a tip to US audiences or if it's supposed to be that Green sales aren't included... but if that's the case, Green didn't break a million individually and I highly doubt that.
As I understand it, Red and Green were the original releases... Blue had slightly better graphics / animations and a new mix of Pokemon. The US Red / Blue are ports of the Japanese Red / Green using the Japanese Blue engine.
super funk
Member
Good second week for Zelda. It should outsell every Zelda of the past few years and I wouldnt be suprised to see it reach 1 million. Its a good sign after the somewhat disappointing sales of TP.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Since each year isn't an exact number of weeks, occasionally they need to tweak the system as they did this January by having it be a 5 week month instead of the usual 4. In the short term this makes for some really weird looking situations where an entire week is out of the calendar month it's supposed to represent, but it will slowly slide back with time. Next year's June should count June 1 - July 5.Xeke said:
Oblivion said:
It´s a Mario game for me. The game is titled Super Mario World 2 and Mario is one of the two principal characters. I know the gameplay is a little different compared with the classic mario games, but hey!, not as much like Super Mario Rpg, and Super Mario RPG is in the list.
And, on the other hand i just realized this.
Seriously, where is the SMW2 for the Super Famicom :/
Moor-Angol
Banned
DQ Hero said:
Yoshi Island is called SMW2 on US release due to NoA decision, meanwhile original japanese version is a Mario spin-off called Super Mario: Yoshi's Island (you can check on gamefaqs).
For this reason YI can'te be showed in Mario chart.
@ Pokemon numbers:
well, honestly it's a little hard to have complete numbers for original Pokemon, the reason is Famitsu started to track at same time both Red/Green then Pikachu (Yellow).
The data i have found i think they arrive from a chart in GEIMIN site, before i used another one which included all first versions and Gold/Silver/Crystal.
I agree with Famitsu when they include same games put on the market on the same day (such as latest Pokemon, Megaman EXE or Nintendogs, just for example), but if they include games arrived in different time i think they make confusion...
There was a site (Zoocar pages) which showed all million sellers from 1996 to 2002 taken for a special chart on Famitsu, but now it's closed...
Famitsu issue #1000 will come soon, i hope they will make something similar, maybe from 1996 to 2006, it should be very nice
Moor-Angol
Banned
TJ Spyke said:
if you need YI sales, you can find here : http://takoweb.com/~kingest/html/SFC.html
#12, with 1,770mln units sold
titiklabingapat
Member
Super Paper Mario and DBZ Wii did great. The former is on it way to outselling the previous Paper Marios on systems with a far higher install base than the Wii's.Bebpo said:
And :lol at any spin by removing the top games on any Nintendo consoles, or removing all first party games for that matter. I don't get that kind of argument at all.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Moor-Angol said:
Awesome. I'll add that to next week's version of the graph.
Jokeropia said:
Umm, I'm removing them because they're two games, they don't represent the normal sales of Wii titles. They are anomalies. Not because of the specific titles (although Wii play is fishy since it's basically an accessory sale marked as a game on MC) I mean look at that top 10 selling next-gen (all 3 systems included) chart, we don't even have 3 titles over 500k...that's bad.
titiklabingapat
Member
Bebpo said:
For the first six months? Not really. Unless you're named 360 or PS3. Even the PS3 had Gundam Musou settling in at 300k.
titiklabingapat
Member
Yeah but that includes Wii Sports...which is an exception or something.Jokeropia said:
Bebpo said:
You just can't do that and make a valid comparison though. Your assumption is that WiiSports/Wiiplay aren't affecting the other games. Without those two titles the Wii wouldn't be selling as well which would produce a totally different outcome.
Besides, how do you expect next-gen to compete with DSL?
Lonewolf_92
Member
Jokeropia has a pretty good point about the Wii tie-in ratio, Bebpo. The numbers just don't support your claims.
NeonZ
Member
Bebpo said:
To be fair, the only title that has really disappointed, sales-wise, in the Wii, was Twilight Princess. Everything else hasn't really gotten any serious drop from the expectations. Wait until the end of the year, when more higher profile games will be released, to claim the success or failure of traditional console gaming on Japan. Isn't the Dragon Quest spin off getting released soon too?
I just think you're basically making an argument using a single game as its basis...
Version 3.0
Member
Bebpo said:
This reminds me of last year or so, when every one of these threads had all kinds of strangely manipulated DS sales data with the top-selling games removed.
"If you don't count the games that sell well, games don't sell well." is kind of an obvious sentence, don't you think? You know, if you don't count the smart ones, GAF members are kinda slow.
Bebpo said:
You are removing them because they are outliers (anomalies by your definition) which would be fine in normal analysis. Problem is that they aren't outliers, not by any stretch of the imagination. If you look at the sales of games on any format at this stage in the consoles life there are 1 or 2 'killer-aps' that drive sales, and if you plot all the games in descending sales you get a smooth curve from the few high selling titles through the midrange titles and into the hordes of low sales titles.
Sure people are overreacting and doubting your motives for this rather vocally, but it just isn't mathematically sound to discount sales based on personal preference (Play) or just because they sold way more than the other games (Sports).
Going back to the wonderful charts though - Nintendogs = fad! If it wasn't for the 3 versions this really wouldn't have even touched Training game levels of sales. Different story in the west, but in Japan the dogs are not that big. No wonder there is no announced follow up yet (bet there is a similar Xmas release though).
JoshuaJSlone
Member
This isn't perfect. All I did was look at the old Famitsu top 30s from the first 30 weeks of PS2 to pick out the largest LTDs. Here are the top ten PS2 games at the time, at their last top 30 appearance within that time frame. Please excuse some of the awful machine translated names.
1. 580K: Ridge Racer V
2. 430K: Tekken Tag Tournament
3. 385K: Play spatial professional baseball AT THE END OF THE CENTURY 1999
4. 322K: Kessen
5. 305K: Dead or Alive 2
6. 298K: Live powerful professional baseball 7
7. 257K: Truth three ? hit and miss
8. 234K: FIFA soccer world championship
9. 190K: Armored Core 2
10.156K: Street Fighter EX 3
1. 580K: Ridge Racer V
2. 430K: Tekken Tag Tournament
3. 385K: Play spatial professional baseball AT THE END OF THE CENTURY 1999
4. 322K: Kessen
5. 305K: Dead or Alive 2
6. 298K: Live powerful professional baseball 7
7. 257K: Truth three ? hit and miss
8. 234K: FIFA soccer world championship
9. 190K: Armored Core 2
10.156K: Street Fighter EX 3