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Media Create Sales 7/2 - 7/8
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titiklabingapat
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It changed.moku said:
It should come in any moment from 10:30 EDT up to 12mn.
titiklabingapat
Member
Last week, it came in at around 15 minutes from now so any moment now indeed.
edit: oh wait, it came out 2 minutes ago last week but the 'any moment now' statement still stands.
edit: oh wait, it came out 2 minutes ago last week but the 'any moment now' statement still stands.
Christopher
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was I or was I not informed that Zelda was never big in Japan?
The Friendly Monster
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Too many factors, not enough data, perhaps unfair to simply classify the games into two distinct styles.Oblivion said:
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Firesprite121984
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I liked Wind Waker more. :S
For my bro though Twilight Princess was the first Zelda he's ever completed. The only thing that held WW back was the Triforce quest at the end. Everything else about the game was inspiring. The art style gave it a sense of soul that I think TP lacked.
I felt Links worry about leaving his grandmother alone. TP had some of the most expressive realistic faces I've seen in any game, but it still felt a hell of a lot more phoned in then it did in WW.
Both were great games, I just personally liked WW a hell of a lot more.
For my bro though Twilight Princess was the first Zelda he's ever completed. The only thing that held WW back was the Triforce quest at the end. Everything else about the game was inspiring. The art style gave it a sense of soul that I think TP lacked.
I felt Links worry about leaving his grandmother alone. TP had some of the most expressive realistic faces I've seen in any game, but it still felt a hell of a lot more phoned in then it did in WW.
Both were great games, I just personally liked WW a hell of a lot more.
Christopher
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Firesprite121984 said:
TP lacked emotion, memorable characters, and good music.
WW was awesome in all those mentioned above.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
Midna was awesome.Christopher said:
When I listen to your comments, then I go back and actually play the game, it's very difficult to understand what the hell you guys are talking about. The only thing I'd agree on is that the music isn't that good, at least not for a Zelda game, though there are still a few fantastic tracks. It's also too easy, but that's not exactly something Wind Waker remedied.
ethelred said:
We don't take kindly to a thinking-man's analysis here 'round these parts.
Thank you for the insight. 
Xeke said:
December 2005. Week before Animal Crossing, IIRC. It had dropped out of the top 30 for most of 2006 (I think), but it stormed back around New Year's and has been consistently in the top 30 for 2007.
super funk
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Christopher said:
I agree completely, but WW lacked in things like, dungeons and difficulty.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
There is more to it than that tough. I'd have to think about it a bit and put my thoughts in order to really elaborate, but the only thing that I thought was missing was a real sense of awe and wonderment.Halycon said:
Some people complain about the lack of orchestrated music, but I don't think they understand what the received instead. The music in TP was not just a loop, but a branching loop. There were very large numbers of loops available in the game, and they all had branching points that let them seamlessly transition into other loops depending on how the situation changed. It was an amazing musical and technical achievement, and not one that I think is even possible with an orchestrated soundtrack.
Smiles and Cries
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ah where the hell is the new week?
I want to see how DQ Swords did
I want to see how DQ Swords did
Christopher
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bmf said:
I really don't give a **** about orchestrated music, the composition sucked. ALTTP still has some of my favoirte tunes, and I even enjoyed some WW tunes. TP was just so bland - yuck.
I agree Midna was awesome...but other characters didn't give it that spark either, I can't remember anyone outside of the Snow Yetti. While I can remember some great memorable characters from OoT, WW, MM ect...
Segata Sanshiro
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Well, Zelda 1 and 2 were both kind of rough at times.speedpop said:
TheGreatDave
Banned
I blame the NES game's difficulties on technical limitations. Doing simple things was more difficult in those games.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
Maybe you're just getting old. Maybe I'm just getting old. Maybe the sense of awe and wonderment was there, but I just can't experience it anymore.Christopher said:
As for memorable characters, there were plenty. Agitha with all the bugs. The woman who ran the pub. Ilia who had a crush on Link and tended his horse. Malo who ran a shop in Kakariko village, and eventually opened the awesome new shop in Castle town run by some guy who's name I can't remember, but who was none the less awesome (and that shop had the most awesome music in the game). The old Goron with little volcano's on his back. The prince of the Zora's saddened by his mothers death. The guy with the cannon at the bottom of lake hylia.
There were great and memorable characters in this game.
vanguardian1
poor, homeless and tasteless
I thought Twilight Princess had some fantastic scores myself. Midna's Theme, Don't Want You No More, Hyrule Field (@ Night), and Midna's Desperate Hour were some of my favorites.
I'd go so far as to say I thought it had some of the best musical scores I've heard in recent years.
I'd go so far as to say I thought it had some of the best musical scores I've heard in recent years.
super funk
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All this talk of characters in TP and no one has yet to mention the Postman? Come one people!
titiklabingapat
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TP was my first Zelda and the sense of wonderment and awe was at full blast. I LOVE the wolf singing part and the subsequent animation. TP basically told me that console action adventures can be thrilling and wonderful, not boring like I find other games in prior consoles.
My favourite character design was the main enemy, love the sleeves on him! I also thought the Twilis were fantastic. I also loved the design of the queen of those water creatures.
All this talk makes me want to replay it again.
My favourite character design was the main enemy, love the sleeves on him! I also thought the Twilis were fantastic. I also loved the design of the queen of those water creatures.
All this talk makes me want to replay it again.
evilromero
Member
In recent years? Maybe you missed Kameo, SotC, Civ IV, Age of Empires III, Viva Pinata and a few other brilliant OSTs done right.vanguardian1 said:
super funk
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AniHawk said:
And I bet hes one of them peoples that like that Wii Fit game!
Grampa Simpson
Banned
Well, I guess that explains just about everything.AniHawk said:
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Christopher said:
I kind of agree, but the thing going for TP is good gameplay. It was fun to play and progress through, while WW was incredibly boring regularly. I used to love games solely for their great art style, and I still give WW the props for that, but in the end it's the gameplay that truly counts, and Wind Waker's is just... meh.
Christopher
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AniHawk said:
:lol shut up - I midly enjoyed it.
Sorry I go to the gym - and I like videogames :\
But I honestly hope PH keeps the Zelda faith in Japan alive!
Grampa Simpson
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After a night with her, I'm certain just about anybody would be sore in the morning.Farore said:
Segata Sanshiro
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super funk
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In the end, I do agree with Christopher on TP vs WW in the character department. I can probably name the location of every single character in WW, but I cant even think of more than 10 good character from TP off the top of my head. And that my friends, is why Wind Waker rocks.
SouthernDragon
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Twilight Princess was my second LoZ, and it was good.
Apparently I suck at games, because I got stuck on several of the puzzles. But I thought the whole design was good.
The colors were a little bland. Reminded me of the "Real is brown" thing next-gen has going thus far.
I was pissed I didn't get to get the last Poe. I was missing one and no FAQ could help me, and I don't have the patience to go back one by one anymore. : / It's kinda gay they only appear at night.
I do miss the color and design of Wind Waker, but TP felt a little more epic, for some reason.
The boss fights, save the first, were excellent. They manner in which you fell each boss is awesome. They just need to be a little more aggressive.
Apparently I suck at games, because I got stuck on several of the puzzles. But I thought the whole design was good.
The colors were a little bland. Reminded me of the "Real is brown" thing next-gen has going thus far.
I was pissed I didn't get to get the last Poe. I was missing one and no FAQ could help me, and I don't have the patience to go back one by one anymore. : / It's kinda gay they only appear at night.
I do miss the color and design of Wind Waker, but TP felt a little more epic, for some reason.
The boss fights, save the first, were excellent. They manner in which you fell each boss is awesome. They just need to be a little more aggressive.
vanguardian1
poor, homeless and tasteless
evilromero said:
For some reason I grew sick of Civ4's music, but that's more likely because I played it too much.
I can't recall any music from AOE3 though. Never played any of the others, they never appealed to me.
Anyways, can anyone who's played Phantom Hourglass tell us how the music fares?
WW didnt have a single memorable character (except maybe tetra and in the second half she was non-existant), WW music is about as good as TP (pretty bad). WW did have more charm than TP but then again, WW had crappy dungeons while TP has some of the best level design I've ever seen in a Zelda game.Christopher said:
I dont get the sudden hate for TP I thought it was an extremely good game and the best 3d Zelda imo (note not my favorite but I reckon the level design is ACE so that puts it on top in my list). I guess some people were expecting jesus or something, thankfully I wasnt. I was expecting a good Zelda game and got a great one.
evilromero
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Sounds very similar to WW. I can hear my girl playing it sometimes and I noticed the sailing theme is very similar to that of WW's.vanguardian1 said:For some reason I grew sick of Civ4's music, but that's more likely because I played it too much.
I can't recall any music from AOE3 though. Never played any of the others, they never appealed to me.
Anyways, can anyone who's played Phantom Hourglass tell us how the music fares?
Christopher
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Error said:
Case in point, you have horrible taste Error.
Pureauthor
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Christopher said:
This coming from someone who admitted that he gleaned enjoyment from Sonic PS360.
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Firesprite121984
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I can't agree with this much.Christopher said:
I thought the world of WW was incredible, the characters emoted in ways most games can't come close too, but the characters in TP were more interesting. The spaced out bug princess, the short shorts wearing mailman, Midna, Telma hell I even liked Zant.
When it comes to characters TP has WW beat. In almost everything TP has WW beat... except for soul. WW just illicited a different feeling to me then TP. Twilight Princess was great... it just lacked that little something extra.