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Media Create Sales 7/30 - 8/5

spwolf said:
both Wii and PS3 held their own

:D
That's actually a good explanation. It's not that out of the realm of possibility that little changed from last week.

I'm taking both with a good pinch of salt until creamsugar can confirm/correct.
 

Pixe

Member
Sinobi (Famitsu)

Mario Party 8 (Wii) - 100,000
Final Fantasy XII International Zodiac Job System (PS2) - 50,000
SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Drive (DS) - 120,000
Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber (DS) - 40,000
Wild ARMs: Crossfire (PSP) - 30,000
Wantame Uranai Channel (DS) - 20,000
Itsuwari no Rondo (DS) - 4,000
IAWW (DS) - 20,000
My Housekeeping Diary (DS) - 15,000
 

ziran

Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I see this in 2ch

DSL 150000
PSP 26000
PS2 14000
PS3 24000
Wii 63000
360 2800

1. G Crossdrive 130000
2. Mario Party 8 110000(計540000)
3. FF12INT 50000
4. J WE 07 46000(計180000)
5. DK 38000

7. WAXF 29000
10. Uracha 24000
外. ロンド 3700
外. アカギ 900

他
8. Mingol5 27000(計250000)
11. きのこ 23000(計150000)
20. 家計 16000(計93000)
24. DQS 14000(計430000)
Those hw and MP8 numbers seem more reasonable, though PS3 seems high. With MnG5 dropping in sales it would be unusual for PS3 to have an increase over last week unless it's catching up with an inaccuracy in a previous week.
 
ethelred said:
It is a spinoff, actually -- it's not like FFX-2 where the core gameplay mechanics were left intact.
The only core mechanic left the same in X-2 was walking around. Menu, battle system, and gaining of abilities were replaced.
test_account said:
~5.8 million isnt considered big?
Well, it's closer to a GameCube than a PS2.
Pureauthor said:
I think 5.8 million would be more... average? PSP, hardware-wise, is pretty much the definition of 'solid, if not spectacular'.
Not bad. It's the king of second-tiers.
 
Sorry for the confusion, this is the soft and hard posted in 2ch (same post), and going from Famitsu top10 and sinobi this is the real deal.

DSL 150,000
Wii 63,000
PSP 26,000
PS3 24,000
PS2 14,000
360 2,800

1. SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Drive (NDS, Bandai Namco) - 130,000
2. Mario Party 8 (Wii, Nintendo) - 110,000 (~540,000)
3. Final Fantasy XII International Zodiac Job System (PS2, Square Enix) - 50,000
4. J. League Winning Eleven 2007 Club Championship (PS2, Konami) - 46,000 (~180,000)
5. Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber (NDS, Nintendo) - 38,000
6. Wii Sports (Wii, Nintendo)
7. Wild Arms: Crossfire (PSP, Sony) - 29,000
8. Everybody's Golf 5 (PS3, Sony) - 27,000 (~250,000)
9. Hajimete no Wii [Wii Play] (Wii, Nintendo)
10. Wantame Uranai Channel (NDS, Capcom) - 24,000
11. Its a Wonderful World - 23,000 (~150,000)
20. My Housekeeping Diary - 16,000 (~93,000)
24. Dragon Quest Swords - 14,000 (~430,000)
... Itsuwari no Rondo - 3,700
... Acagi - 900
 

ethelred

Member
JoshuaJSlone said:
The only core mechanic left the same in X-2 was walking around. Menu, battle system, and gaining of abilities were replaced.

Er, there were differences, sure, but the core gameplay was intact. They were both traditional menu-based RPGs. I didn't think switching from turn-based back to standard FF-ATB was that big a deal within the context of the two games.

The whole thing with putting a "2" in the name also helped at pretty clearly establishing it as a sequel (not that that's strictly required).
 

Jokeropia

Member
Assuming this new set of numbers is correct, could ~63k be the level Wii stabilizes at? Very strong stabilization point if so. Hopefully it also allows Nintendo and retailers to stock up a decent amount for the holidays.

As for software, highly impressive Mario Party sales. Going for a million?
 
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Sorry for the confusion, this is the soft and hard posted in 2ch (same post), and going from Famitsu top10 and sinobi this is the real deal.

DSL 150,000
Wii 63,000
PSP 26,000
PS3 24,000
PS2 14,000
360 2,800

1. SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Drive (NDS, Bandai Namco) - 130,000
2. Mario Party 8 (Wii, Nintendo) - 110,000 (~540,000)
3. Final Fantasy XII International Zodiac Job System (PS2, Square Enix) - 50,000
4. J. League Winning Eleven 2007 Club Championship (PS2, Konami) - 46,000 (~180,000)
5. Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber (NDS, Nintendo) - 38,000
6. Wii Sports (Wii, Nintendo)
7. Wild Arms: Crossfire (PSP, Sony) - 29,000
8. Everybody's Golf 5 (PS3, Sony) - 27,000 (~250,000)
9. Hajimete no Wii [Wii Play] (Wii, Nintendo)
10. Wantame Uranai Channel (NDS, Capcom) - 24,000
11. Its a Wonderful World - 23,000 (~150,000)
20. My Housekeeping Diary - 16,000 (~93,000)
24. Dragon Quest Swords - 14,000 (~430,000)
... Itsuwari no Rondo - 3,700
... Acagi - 900

Sinobi confirmed the software numbers but no hardware leaks yet.

Or maybe it's just my cache.
 

Haunted

Member
Jokeropia said:
Assuming this new set of numbers is correct, could ~63k be the level Wii stabilizes at? Very strong stabilization point if so. Hopefully it also allows Nintendo and retailers to stock up a decent amount for the holidays.

As for software, highly impressive Mario Party sales. Going for a million?
I hope so. doing over a million would make it the best-selling one in the series.


Too many different HW numbers floating around, waiting for someone reliable to post them. :)
 

ziran

Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Sorry for the confusion, this is the soft and hard posted in 2ch (same post), and going from Famitsu top10 and sinobi this is the real deal.

DSL 150,000
Wii 63,000
PSP 26,000
PS3 24,000
PS2 14,000
360 2,800

1. SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Drive (NDS, Bandai Namco) - 130,000
2. Mario Party 8 (Wii, Nintendo) - 110,000 (~540,000)
3. Final Fantasy XII International Zodiac Job System (PS2, Square Enix) - 50,000
4. J. League Winning Eleven 2007 Club Championship (PS2, Konami) - 46,000 (~180,000)
5. Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber (NDS, Nintendo) - 38,000
6. Wii Sports (Wii, Nintendo)
7. Wild Arms: Crossfire (PSP, Sony) - 29,000
8. Everybody's Golf 5 (PS3, Sony) - 27,000 (~250,000)
9. Hajimete no Wii [Wii Play] (Wii, Nintendo)
10. Wantame Uranai Channel (NDS, Capcom) - 24,000
11. Its a Wonderful World - 23,000 (~150,000)
20. My Housekeeping Diary - 16,000 (~93,000)
24. Dragon Quest Swords - 14,000 (~430,000)
... Itsuwari no Rondo - 3,700
... Acagi - 900
Thanks. creamsugar's hw numbers seem too high for the sw sales.

I expected Wii and PS3 sales to be lower. Wii because sales were lower than expected when MP8 was launched and there looked like there was a decline/lower re-stabilising going on, and PS3 because there is still very little sw and what there is, isn't selling too well.

Sony seems to be in a PSP level problem with sw sales on PS3.

At the Sony awards for sw sales (1 million = Platinum, 500K = Gold) just after PSP they added a new 300K category for the system, maybe they'll add a new one for PS3 sw sales of 250K ;)
 

Frillen

Member
But didn't the PS3 sell 22k in last week's Famitsu figures? So if the second set of numbers we have is the correct one, then the PS3 actually went up 2k. That's not very logical considered Minna no Golf's decreased number, compared to last week.
 

spwolf

Member
Jokeropia said:
Assuming this new set of numbers is correct, could ~63k be the level Wii stabilizes at? Very strong stabilization point if so. Hopefully it also allows Nintendo and retailers to stock up a decent amount for the holidays.

As for software, highly impressive Mario Party sales. Going for a million?

trends suck, dont they? follow the trends of past 2 months with Wii and PS3 sales... from 90k to.... and from 8k to....

That being said, Wii should pick up in Sept, so there shouldnt be more than 2 weeks more of 6xk sales, unless ...
 
ethelred said:
Er, there were differences, sure, but the core gameplay was intact. They were both traditional menu-based RPGs. I didn't think switching from turn-based back to standard FF-ATB was that big a deal within the context of the two games.
All menu-based battle systems are equivalent? Pffffft. X-2 kept the core gameplay of X as much as X kept the core gameplay of IX.
The whole thing with putting a "2" in the name also helped at pretty clearly establishing it as a sequel (not that that's strictly required).
This is true.
test_account said:
Gamecube, Xbox or Gizmondo, i still dont consider 5.8 million as small :)
If you don't consider things relative to other things, it's pretty useless. Michael J. Fox isn't short, he's over 100 centimeters tall!
 
spwolf said:
trends suck, dont they? follow the trends of past 2 months with Wii and PS3 sales... from 90k to.... and from 8k to....

That being said, Wii should pick up in Sept, so there shouldnt be more than 2 weeks more of 6xk sales, unless ...

Actually, Media Create sales for the week of June 4th-10th (2 months ago) put's Wii at 64k. The sales spiked with the release of Dragon Quest Swords.
 

ethelred

Member
JoshuaJSlone said:
All menu-based battle systems are equivalent? Pffffft. X-2 kept the core gameplay of X as much as X kept the core gameplay of IX.

Yep, core gameplay remained intact.

I honestly didn't think what I was suggesting was so novel -- that it's pretty easy to classify traditional RPGs as superficially similar to one another gameplay-wise. They all share some basic gameplay features which is kinda sorta why they're classified together within that subgenre. I don't think Wind Waker is 100% identical to Ocarina of Time but we can pretty clearly see how it falls within the main series based on gameplay where Four Swords Adventures does not.

FFX-2 maintained the same gameplay subgenre (traditional RPG to traditional RPG) of its predecessor where Crisis Core went from traditional RPG to action RPG and Revenant Wings went from... whatever XII was to real time strategy-styled RPG.
 

DarkMehm

Member
some from me (only LTD)

121 GC - Mario Party 7 454,261
170 GBA - FFIV Advance 219,391
275 GC - Baten Kaitos Origins 44,297 :(
316 GBA - Pokemon R/S 5,337,045
325 GC - Pokemon XD 264,464
344 GBA - Super Mario Advance 4 718,207
354 GBA - Kirby: The Labyrinth Mirror 704,295
486 GC - Mario Baseball 229,754
 

Jokeropia

Member
spwolf said:
trends suck, dont they? follow the trends of past 2 months with Wii and PS3 sales... from 90k to.... and from 8k to....

That being said, Wii should pick up in Sept, so there shouldnt be more than 2 weeks more of 6xk sales, unless ...
You dont't really know what "trend" means, do you? Wii was never at 90k except during spikes, in May/June it hovered around 60-65k. Likewise, PS3's increase is part of a spike and cannot be called a trend.
 

SovanJedi

provides useful feedback
Haunted One said:
welcome back and good-bye.


:p :lol

You know, with a returning comment like that I bet the mods keep him around just long enough to do the next Media Create topic (software AND hardware) then ban him for another week. :lol

Not that I want that to happen though. Welcome back!
 
ethelred said:
Yep, core gameplay remained intact.

I honestly didn't think what I was suggesting was so novel -- that it's pretty easy to classify traditional RPGs as superficially similar to one another gameplay-wise. They all share some basic gameplay features which is kinda sorta why they're classified together within that subgenre. I don't think Wind Waker is 100% identical to Ocarina of Time but we can pretty clearly see how it falls within the main series based on gameplay where Four Swords Adventures does not.
I think we're being different levels of strict. I'd consider "core gameplay" to go deeper than what subgenre a game is in. The Sphere Grid and FFT-like battle timing were what I consider FFX's key features that differentiate it from other FF games or RPGs in general. By going with a quicker ATB battle system and a version of the job system used on a fixed party, FFX-2's gameplay was closer to Final Fantasy V than Final Fantasy X.

I see what your original point was, though:
FFX-2 maintained the same gameplay subgenre (traditional RPG to traditional RPG) of its predecessor where Crisis Core went from traditional RPG to action RPG and Revenant Wings went from... whatever XII was to real time strategy-styled RPG.
 
Cheese didn't get banned just for saying FFVIII sucks, it was the thread that he said it in. You can say FFVIII sucks all day in here, but in that thread the dude wasn't asking for opinions on the game itself.
 

SovanJedi

provides useful feedback
Segata Sanshiro said:
Cheese didn't get banned just for saying FFVIII sucks, it was the thread that he said it in. You can say FFVIII sucks all day in here, but in that thread the dude wasn't asking for opinions on the game itself.

Oh okay okay, we were just messing about. Please don't get angry and kill us Mr. Sanshiro. :(
 

ethelred

Member
Unfortunately I don't have time to do a lot of stuff, but here are a few games from the list:

103 PS2 Okami Capcom 147,627
110 XB360 Blue Dragon Microsoft 135,240
118 DS Rune Factory Marvelous 125,445
133 DS Phoenix Wright (Best Price) Capcom 113,000
140 GBA Mother 1+2 (Best Price Nintendo 106,677
156 DS Mega Man ZX Capcom 94,341
160 PS2 Devil Summoner Atlus 91,008
173 PS2 Resident Evil 4 Capcom 84,389 454,979
178 DS Harvest Moon for Girls Marvelous 82,192 112,811
180 PS2 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Capcom 81,110 162,332
194 PSP Jeanne d'Arc Sony 72,536
199 PS2 Growlanser V Atlus 69,711
212 PSP Valhalla Knights Marvelous 64,506
296 PSP Disgaea Portable Nippon Ichi 38,080
297 XB360 Ninety Nine Nights Microsoft 38,019
397 PSP Harvest Moon Boy & Girl Marvelous 25,448 39,574
401 XB360 Project Gotham Racing 3 Microsoft 25,058
404 PS2 Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life (PS2 the Best) Marvelous 24,843 40,710
405 PSP Innocent Life Marvelous 24,655
 

doicare

Member
Cheesemeister said:
Hey, GAF! I'm back from my ban. And I've just got to say...

FFVIII sucks. Hard.

:lol :D

Good to have you back, just stay alive long enough for the hardware numbers to come out before getting banned again this time :D
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Million-plus during 2006 sellers from that list:
Code:
1 DS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl	4,302,815
2 DS NSMB			3,818,214
3 DS Brain Training 2		3,748,638
4 DS Animal Crossing		2,485,264
5 PS2 FF 12			2,322,329
6 DS Brain Training		1,991,116
7 DS English Training 		1,529,618
8 DS Mario Kart DS		1,115,082
9 PS2 Winning Eleven 10		1,050,236

A few others people might want:
Code:
16 DS Cooking Navi		691,007
17 DS Pokemon Ranger		643,776
18 DS DQM: Joker		633,084
21 Wii Wii Sports		553,214
22 DS Jump Ultimate Stars	548,474
23 PS2 Mina no Tennis		513,862
25 Wii Wii Play 		503,185
26 PS2 Yakuza 2			465,380
30 PSP Monster Hunter Portable	435,181
32 DS Mario & Luigi 2		417,391
34 DS Mario Hoops 3v3		399,346
36 GBA Mother 3			368,582
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
So are those the real hardware numbers? I'd be shocked if those PS3 numbers were correct, but if so, good news for Sony (relatively speaking).

And wow at MP8..looks like a million seller to me.
 

DarkMehm

Member
Stumpokapow said:
Million-plus during 2006 sellers from that list:
Code:
1 DS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl	4,302,815
2 DS NSMB			3,818,214
3 DS Brain Training 2		3,748,638
4 DS Animal Crossing		2,485,264
5 PS2 FF 12			2,322,329
6 DS Brain Training		1,991,116
7 DS English Training 		1,529,618
8 DS Mario Kart DS		1,115,082
9 PS2 Winning Eleven 10		1,050,236

A few others people might want:
Code:
16 DS Cooking Navi		691,007
17 DS Pokemon Ranger		643,776
18 DS DQM: Joker		633,084
21 Wii Wii Sports		553,214
22 DS Jump Ultimate Stars	548,474
23 PS2 Mina no Tennis		513,862
25 Wii Wii Play 		503,185
26 PS2 Yakuza 2			465,380
30 PSP Monster Hunter Portable	435,181
32 DS Mario & Luigi 2		417,391
34 DS Mario Hoops 3v3		399,346
36 GBA Mother 3			368,582

Thanks for your effort, but the Top 100 is already translated here
 

cvxfreak

Member
Biohazard 4 (PS2): 454,979
Biohazard 4 (PS2 The Best): 55,131
Total: 510,110

So all three Biohazard 4 versions end up at about 830K. Nice!
 
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