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Media Create Sales 9/24 - 9/30 2007: Halo on top!
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perfectchaos007 said:
I think Nintendo expected Striker to help fill the gap too. Considering what it sold on a dead system, Nintendo probably expected it to gain 200-300k sales on the most popular console in Japan right now. Plus the fact that there is 0 home console competition in Japan right now probably relaxes Nintendo a bit but if they take too much for granted there might not be a home console industry in Japan to work with. Those little guys are really starting to take over. I mean just look at Square-enix announcements the last year. They basically gave a FU to home consoles, no FFXIII news, mini-games for Wii. What does DS and PSP get? Only DQIX, new kingdom hearts, Final Fantasy discordia, full remakes of classic DQs and FFs. I think we see where SE is putting most of there eggs and frequently in Japan where SE goes the rest of the third party goes.
bgassassin
Member
castle007 said:
Till cheesemeister returns to the states. He's the real reason things are out of wack.
Cheesemeister
Member
bgassassin said:
I'll get right on that. :lol
Barf_the_Mog
powerless or are they? o_O
Cheesemeister said:
I guess that teaches you to have a life outside of GAF, eh?
That'll learn ya.
Cheesemeister
Member
Barf_the_Mog said:
Yes, I've learned my lesson. I'll see all you hip cats for the MC thread next week.
Phife Dawg
Member
Do we have the rankings for 31-50 translated somewhere?
Hardware sales pretty much matching Famitsu in trend. The last 2 week numbers for PSP add up to 380,603 and Sony claimed 500,000 for the two weeks since launch (up to the 4th of October). So that means from 9/30 to 10/04 they must've sold 119,397 units. Of course I know that these numbers are guestimates based on some retailer information but does Sony have a better way? Do they keep track of every PSP sold to a customer?
Next week will be interesting. If Sony's numbers are correct we should see quite a bigger week than this for PSP hardware since the weekend is yet to come. I somewhat doubt that though. That would mean that mc either heavily undertracked the PSP or that Sony was a bit too "optimistic" about their sales.
As for PS3 becoming Nr. 1, that would be a long, long way. It must outsell Wii constantly by a high margin and since I don't think Wii sales will stay relatively flat (still sells double the amount of PS3) I don't see that happening.
I think Sony does have a chance of becoming the Nr. 2 console worldwide, with the imminent release of the 40 gig and the rumored PES bundle they will sell well and better than 360 in Europe come christmas. Europe and Japan combined can give it that edge over 360's good performance in NA.
Hardware sales pretty much matching Famitsu in trend. The last 2 week numbers for PSP add up to 380,603 and Sony claimed 500,000 for the two weeks since launch (up to the 4th of October). So that means from 9/30 to 10/04 they must've sold 119,397 units. Of course I know that these numbers are guestimates based on some retailer information but does Sony have a better way? Do they keep track of every PSP sold to a customer?
Next week will be interesting. If Sony's numbers are correct we should see quite a bigger week than this for PSP hardware since the weekend is yet to come. I somewhat doubt that though. That would mean that mc either heavily undertracked the PSP or that Sony was a bit too "optimistic" about their sales.
Oblivion was released earlier on 360 and had a bigger opening week (45.497).TwinsDad said:
PS3 already had a price drop prior to it's launch (20 gig). I think price is less an issue in Japan as it may be in NA. Except for MnG Sony had nothing big in the pipeline for japanese tastes and that doesn't really change for the holidays. Right now the Nr. 2 Sony game on PS3 is Resistance.Ether_Snake said:
As for PS3 becoming Nr. 1, that would be a long, long way. It must outsell Wii constantly by a high margin and since I don't think Wii sales will stay relatively flat (still sells double the amount of PS3) I don't see that happening.
I think Sony does have a chance of becoming the Nr. 2 console worldwide, with the imminent release of the 40 gig and the rumored PES bundle they will sell well and better than 360 in Europe come christmas. Europe and Japan combined can give it that edge over 360's good performance in NA.
:lol PS3 has momentum.reilo said:
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Busaiku said:
I said that PSP would have sold between 100 and 130k. I was right (2). Next week DS > PSP.
sphinx said:
Well, this is the 4th week where Wiî's sales are slow. What about the 5 months in 2005 where DS ~20-30k and PSP > DS ? Nintendo should have committed suicide.
:lolEther_Snake said:
You overestimate those games, or alternatively underestimate the Gundam, Dynasty Warriors and Minna no Golf franchises. (All of which easily are as big as the ones above but still failed to cause a lasting impact.)
What? 360 sales have increased with the release of Halo, but Wii sales (unlike PS3 sales) have not decreased.Ether_Snake said:
BlackNMild2k1
Member
Can someone translate the rest of the Top 50?Jasoncheng said:
Phife Dawg
Member
True, that's why next weeks numbers will be so interesting.Fafalada said:Famitsu tracked PSP 30% higher this week then MC, so someone is either under or over tracking here
True as well :lol .ethelred said:
That would be very much appreciated.BlackNMild2k1 said:
Actually DS hit even 15k in that period, so we could say that scenario was much much worse than this since installed user base was more restricted than Wii one at this point.Mithos Yggdrasill said:
IMHO anyone thinking the Wii will "lose" terrain in the next months with its software releases is just fooling himself. There's no question about the Wii gaining momentum.
test_account
XP-39C²
Anyone knows why MC dont display the sale number from number 11-50?
Magicpaint
Member
Didn't Famitsu have PSP @ ~128k? This looks like a very big discrepancy.
Also where are my LTDs.
Also where are my LTDs.
test_account
XP-39C²
Magicpaint said:Also where are my LTDs.
Code:
PS2: 20,751,774
DS: 19,496,090
GBA: 15,345,936
PSP: 6,393,449
GC: 4,179,253
Wii: 3,614,197
PS3: 1,169,666
360: 415,491Magicpaint
Member
Thanks ^^test_account said:
test_account
XP-39C²
No problem And from thos number, you might say PS3 is evil (666) hehe. Didnt PSP also have 666 not long ago?
EDIT: Yep it did lol. Altho it was on YTD
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187633
And from thos number, you might say PS3 is evil (666) hehe. Didnt PSP also have 666 not long ago?EDIT: Yep it did lol. Altho it was on YTD
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187633
Phife Dawg
Member
Thanks! Since the source is OK with posting the charts in other forums I'll take the freedom to do so:verplant said:
31. [PS2] Another Century's Episode 3: The Final (Banpresto)
32. [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations (Capcom)
33. [NDS] More English Training DS (Nintendo)
34. [NDS] Dr. Kawashimas Gehirn-Jogging: Wie fit ist Ihr Gehirn? (Nintendo)
35. [Wii] Sengoku Musou Katana (Koei)
36. [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo)
37. [NDS] Mitsukete! Keroro Gunsou (Bandai Namco) - NEW
38. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Capcom)
39. [PS2] Kyou Kara Maou! Shin Ma-Kuni no Kyuujitsu (Bandai Namco) - NEW
40. [PS2] Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (Capcom)
41. [PS3] Minna no Golf 5 (Sony)
42. [PS2] Kiniro no Corda 2 Anchor (Koei)
43. [NDS] Donkey Kong Jungle Climber (Nintendo)
44. [PS2] Yuukyuu no Sakura (Idea Factory) - NEW
45. [PSP] Fate/Tiger Colosseum (Capcom)
46. [PS3] Bladestorm (Koei)
47. [NDS] English Training DS (Nintendo)
48. [NDS] Otona no Joushikiryoku Training DS (Nintendo)
49. [NDS] SD Gundam G Generation Cross Drive (Bandai Namco)
50. [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2007: Club Championship (Konami)
Ynos Yrros
Banned
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lolJokeropia said:
That's a load of laughing directed towards your ridiculous claim
Magicpaint
Member
What exactly is ridiculous about it?Ynos Yrros said:
Except Final Fantasy last gen each Minna no Golf main entry sold more than any game you listed (considering GT5Prologue has more similaritys to GT4Prologue than GT4s main entry) and even Dynasty Warriors sold out Metal Gear Solid. So Jokeropia is right, Magicpaint.
Keep your hopes up Ether Snake. That statement was also made for PSP (in its 1st two years) by others.
Keep your hopes up Ether Snake. That statement was also made for PSP (in its 1st two years) by others.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
I was going to post first day numbers but then I saw that you guys are too busy with the usual bullshit, so keep at it. Those really interested about the numbers know where to look for them after all.
First Day Sales:
Dragon Ball Z Sparking! METEOR (PS2) : about 110k
Dragon Ball Z Sparking! METEOR (Wii) : about 30k
Powerful Pro Major League 2 (PS2, Wii) : about 25k
Gundam Battle Chronicle (PSP) : about 50k
ARCHAIC SEALED HEAT (ASH) (DS) : about 40k
Source : http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/
Dragon Ball Z Sparking! METEOR (PS2) : about 110k
Dragon Ball Z Sparking! METEOR (Wii) : about 30k
Powerful Pro Major League 2 (PS2, Wii) : about 25k
Gundam Battle Chronicle (PSP) : about 50k
ARCHAIC SEALED HEAT (ASH) (DS) : about 40k
Source : http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Laguna said:
Hrm, interesting.
DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 2 did 45k first week on Wii for a lifetime 120k.
DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 2 did 240k first week on PS2 for a lifetime 420k.
justjohn said:
Are you sure?
Crisis Core is still selling, but there's nothing else on the Top50 that would indicate an improvement in PSP software sales; MGS-PO+ is doing ok but on the way out, Yu-Gi-Oh Heart of the Cards Destiny Edition featuring Brown Eyes White Dragon had a mediocre debut, MHP2 has Zelda TP-like legs still...
The fact that there are three PSP games in the top ten is more incidental based on release dates than it is reflective of a trend.
Laugh as you like, it's completely true. Minna no Golf and Dynasty Warriors are both bigger than MGS, GTP, RE and DMC in Japan. (The size of the latter franchises are commonly exaggerated, RE and DMC haven't even reached 500k in quite a while.) If PS3 has a similar effect on FF as it has had on all the other big PS2 franchises so far, even FFXIII will struggle to break a million. (I do think it'll manage however.)Ynos Yrros said:
Decent start for ASH. Should do at least over 60k first week.
Pretty huge drop-off for the PSP there. Down 174k. The DS should beat the PSP this week and things will be back to normal. I predict the PSP down to sub 60k this week and the DS over 100k 'cause of the two new colors.
Pretty huge drop-off for the PSP there. Down 174k. The DS should beat the PSP this week and things will be back to normal. I predict the PSP down to sub 60k this week and the DS over 100k 'cause of the two new colors.
Laguna said:
Hey thats good. The Wii version of the Dragon Ball Z game looks like its going to outsell its predecessor.
ASH did good, should sell 60k+ first week.
Power Pro sold like shit...And thats combined too..Seems like next week will be shared by Wii, Ps2, PSP and DS.
Overall im pretty happy about those first day sales for DBZ Wii and ASH.
Stumpokapow said:
Seems like the Ps2 version dropped a little and the Wii version is going to rise a little. It would be great to see the Wii version reach 200k.
Magicpaint
Member
For those thinking ASH sold well:
Umm, doesn't sound like it did good!
duckroll said:Unfortunately it seems like this is also going to be one hellavu bomb for Nintendo. Reports from Japan indicate that many stores have starting slashing the price on the first 2 days of release, with the game being available for as low as 3780yen. Apparently the initial shipment is having a really tough time moving and retailers are getting cold feet at the prospect of having a pile of overstock. Oh well.
Edit: Sinobi reports about 40k of sales on the first day, which is a mere 30% of the initial shipment. Seems bad. -_-
Umm, doesn't sound like it did good!
Phife Dawg
Member
But expected. Wii has online, which isn't a big selling point in Japan. Other than that I thought it was more of a rooster update with slight changes to the campaign with your results now having an effect on the story. PS2 has bc with the old releases to unlock stuff, which makes the incentive for fans of the series higher.Stumpokapow said:
If advertised right I could see this one selling pretty good in the west with the added online mode.
SouthernDragon
Member
Those software numbers look kinda low, there, for Wii.
And what's Sorry Sony laughing at?
And what's Sorry Sony laughing at?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Lobster said:
General rule of thumb:
First day sales * 2 = First week sales * 2 = Lifetime sales.
Obviously handheld games have longer legs and casual games do too, whereas most RPGs have shorter legs, but if you were told a game's first day sales without hearing its title or platform, you could estimate first week by doubling.
It is also going to depend based on how many days of sales are being counted for the first week.
Stumpokapow said:
This is not factoring in shipment numbers though. Sell-through percentages are very important. The problem is that over the past two days ASH has been literally raped by retailers. It's an expensive DS game that had over 100k units shipped to stores, and the lack of hype failed to sell even 50% of that initial shipment on the first day. Retailers panicked and slashed the price, devaluing the entire product. Since retailers are taking losses to rid themselves of stock this early, it's highly unlikely they will order more of this product.
Based on a previous report, Nintendo expected to sell about 200k of ASH, so much for that. 2.5 years down the drain for Sakaguchi!