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Media-Create Sales: Apr 27-May 3

Grimmy

Banned
schuelma said:
You forgot about Wii Sports Resort in June.

Oh right. Yeah, tha's a pretty big title.

jeremy1456 said:
I thought Monster Hunter 3 was also due in June.

Am I just mistaken?

I actually tried to look it up but the release date is still a vague Summer 2009. I can'timagine it coming next month though... Probably August, but in my reply I'm counting only until end of July.
 

jeremy1456

Junior Member
Grimmy said:
Oh right. Yeah, tha's a pretty big title.



I actually tried to look it up but the release date is still a vague Summer 2009. I can'timagine it coming next month though... Probably August, but in my reply I'm counting only until end of July.

Oh, right-io.
 

Rolf NB

Member
markatisu said:
On the MH side you are left with a slightly upgraded port of a really old game that cannot work with the standard Wii controls that most people have :lol
And that's a plus.

Vinci said:
The same as they're doing now: Advent Children on Blu-Ray. When I said 'align,' I meant in terms of removing the demos and placing it as product vs. product. The two products of these items are Advent Children and MH G. Anyone stating that AC wouldn't push the PS3's sales, in and of itself, is kidding themselves. The demo is icing to the cake.
8xngis.jpg


Only gamers, specificially followers of FF intricacies, hard-core JRPG buffs you might call them, care about Advent Children. The movie has no appeal to a general audience. It doesn't even have proper character exposition or even a summary explanation of prior events in its world. It assumes you know who Cloud, Tifa, Sephiroth etc are. It's a movie that's bought by fans of FF, just like the demo is something only fans of FF would buy.
 
Code:
                          MediaCreate              Famitsu           Dengeki
DBKai                        74,263                101,000            73,221
Persona                      79,192                 95,000            70,365
Made in Ore                  56,174                 70,000            57,795
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUmitsu :/

I'll post sinobi comparisons but since it uses those Famitsu numbers its a bit less interesting than it should...remember some of these new titles could have an extra day of sales because of their release date:

Dragon Ball on DS - First week comparisons:
December 2005: "Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors 2" - 42,000
March 2007: "Dragon Ball Z: Harukanaru Densetsu" - 62,000
September 2008: "Dragon Ball DS" - 88,000
April 2009: "Dragon Ball Kai: Saiyajin Raishuu" - 101,000

Shin Megami Tensei - First week comparisons:
January 2005: PS2 "DIGITAL DEVIL SAGA 2" - 55,000
March 2006: PS2 "Devil Summoner: Kuzunoha Raidou" - 56,000
July 2006: PS2 "Persona 3" - 127,000
April 2007: PS2 "Persona 3 Fes" 105,000
July 2008: PS2 "Persona 4" - 212,000
July 2008: PS2 "Devil Summoner: Kuzunoha Raidou 2" - 77,000
January 2009: DS "Megami Ibunroku: Devil Survivor" - 57,000
April 2009: PSP "Persona" - 95,000

Wario - First week comparisons:
March 2003: GBA "Made in Wario" - 100,000
October 2004: GBA "Made in Wario Twisted" - 108,000
December 2004: DS "Made in Wario Touched" - 118,000
December 2006: Wii "Odoru Made in Wario" - 63,000
April 2009: DS "Made in Ore" - 79,000


Now Pawapuro Major League 2009 (#4) comparison is more interesting since the numbers match pretty well between the different trackers. First week comparison for every Major League title to follow (Famitsu data as usual):
Code:
 ▼ Pawapuro Major League  	06.05.11  	PS2  	97,208
 ▼ Pawapuro Major League  	06.05.11 	GC 	13,484

 ▼ Pawapuro Major League 2 	07.10.04 	PS2 	42,946
 ▼ Pawapuro Major League 2 	07.10.04 	Wii 	 6,784

 ▼ Pawapuro Major League 3 	08.10.02 	PS2 	18,073
 ▼ Pawapuro Major League 3 	08.10.02 	Wii 	 4,250

 ▼ Pawapuro Major League 4 	09.04.29 	PS2 	40,000
 ▼ Pawapuro Major League 4 	09.04.29 	Wii 	17,000
Took 3 entries on Wii to finally beat the only GC one, released in 2006 which sure wasn't GC strongest time. PS2 returns to #2 numbers but still far away from the first one.
 
charlequin said:
and you are extremely terrible at third-party relations



Right, because their strategy was working. One shouldn't let one's mouth write checks their ass can't cash.

And don't flip this around to a "who could know that Wii Music would bomb" thing. The fact that Wii Music fails to deliver on a desirable expanded-market premise the way that Wii Sports and Wii Fit do was clear to plenty of people the day they announced it. They just fucked up and their software strategy is 100% dependent on every single expanded-market idea they have being solid-gold genius, when clearly they can really only deliver like 75% solid-gold genius. :lol


I know it's late, but I agree. I know personally, Wii Music was the very first "Wii" series game where I instantly thought "pass" and didn't even come close to reconsidering, and i'm a pretty open minded gamer.
 

Fafalada

Fafracer forever
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Took 3 entries on Wii to finally beat the only GC one, released in 2006 which sure wasn't GC strongest time. PS2 returns to #2 numbers but still far away from the first one.
Isn't this series much stronger on portables now? IIRC the PSP one sold over 200k last year, and NDS is even higher?
 
Fafalada said:
Isn't this series much stronger on portables now? IIRC the PSP one sold over 200k last year, and NDS is even higher?
This is the sub series from the American league though. There isn't an equivalent on portables so to speak but yeah, both the PSP and DS sub series are now bigger than anything on consoles.

Pawapuro [Number] - its the main series, 15-years old, just on consoles (SNES, N64, PS2, Wii), this year they scrapped the number (15) for the first time in favor of 2009 on PS2 and NEXT on Wii, also moving its release from July to March. Future not too bright right now.

Pawapuro Baseball Ketteiban - December re-release for the main entries, just on consoles as well. In 2008 it was dropped for the first time in a really long time.

Pawapuro Portable - PSP sub series, 3 entries so far, the latest one did >300k surpassing all DS/GBA games and the latest entry (14) from the main series on PS2. Highest right now.

Pawapuro Major League - American league, only on consoles (PS2, GC, Wii), 4 entries with the latest '2009' one, that scrapped using 4.

Pawapuro [Year] - PSX entries were yearly numbered, N64 got the numbered ones but this sub-series so to speak sold the best for Pawapuro ever (Pawapuro 99 did >750k). It also had Ketteiban releases on December.

Pawapuro Kun Pocket - GB/GBA/DS sub series, very often on the 200-300k range, 10th on DS did the best ever for this sub series with 275k, 11th on DS was already released and its still selling (we saw it not long ago) at about 225k now.
 

Jokeropia

Member
jeremy1456 said:
Media Create numbers are generally more accepted 'round these parts though.
It's not that they're more accepted, we just tend to use them because they're released (officially) first. All trackers are considered more or less equal.
 

markatisu

Member
Jokeropia said:
It's not that they're more accepted, we just tend to use them because they're released (officially) first. All trackers are considered more or less equal.

Famitsu also has been tracking the Wii at more stable levels (still shit sales), Media-Create is where the biggest decline was seen on a more consistent basis.

So I guess things are finally back to normal if only by 1k in Famitsu :lol
 
Stumpokapow said:
okay but that was still almost six months ago. they have not released ANYYYYTHING since then.
Not exactly hits, but after City Folk and through the Famitsu week starting April 6 they've got 5 charting new Wii releases that sum up to over 400K. Not a good half for a Nintendo, but I'm sure we could find a publisher or two wishing they could do that on any platform. Sony's two PS3 games in the same period (White Knight Chronicles and Demon's Souls) have done as well, though.
 

donny2112

Member
Famitsu Apr 13-19

01./00. [NDS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky (Nintendo/Pokemon Co.) - 142,264 / NEW
02./01. [PSP] Sengoku Basara: Battle Heroes (Capcom) - 28,162 / 116,213 (-68%)
03./04. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (BEST) (Capcom) - 20,054 / 623,574 (-1%)
04./03. [NDS] Mario & Luigi RPG 3!!! (Nintendo) - 18,199 / 536,147 (-21%)
05./00. [PSP] Fantasy Golf Pangya Portable (Takara Tomy) - 16,146 / NEW
06./00. [NDS] Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! Fate of Heat II (Takara Tomy) - 14,592 / NEW
07./05. [NDS] Pro Baseball Famista DS 2009 (Namco Bandai Games) - 11,701 / 57,826 (-33%)
08./09. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 10,150 / 3,301,373 (-4%)
09./08. [PS2] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2009 (#15) (Konami) - 9,513 / 116,555 (-28%)
10./00. [WII] Deca Sporta 2: Wii de Sports 10 Shumoku! (Hudson) - 8,594 / NEW

11./13. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii (Namco Bandai Games) - 8,390 / 500,975 (+6%)
12./07. [PSP] Kidou Senshi Gundam: Senjou no Kizuna Portable (Namco Bandai Games) - 8,126 / 136,611 (-40%)
13./10. [PS3] Musou Orochi Z (Koei) - 8,066 / 194,183 (-10%)
14./11. [NDS] Rhythm Tengoku Gold (Nintendo) - 8,041 / 1,680,177 (-9%)
15./12. [NDS] Rittai Picross (3D) (Nintendo) - 7,387 / 108,477 (-7%)
16./17. [NDS] Tongari Boushi to Mahou no 365 Nichi (Little Magician's Magic Adventure) (Konami) - 6,237 / 357,793 (-4%)
17./02. [WII] Oboro Muramasa: The Demon Blade (Marvelous) - 5,625 / 29,525 (-76%)
18./00. [PS3] Godfather 2 (Electronic Arts Victor) - 5,028 / NEW
19./30. [PS3] Valkyria Chronicles (BEST) (SEGA) - 4,890 / 25,396 (+13%)
20./14. [PSP] Disgaea 2 Portable (Nippon Ichi Software) - 4,831 / 61,283 (-29%)
21./25. [NDS] Kanji Quiz DS 3 Deluxe (Rocket Company) - 4,637 / 9,306 (-1%)
22./18. [PS3] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) - 4,610 / 450,250 (-27%)
23./19. [NDS] Power Pro Kun Pocket 11 (Konami) - 4,498 / 221,699 (-17%)
24./15. [NDS] Super Robot Taisen K (Namco Bandai Games) - 4,461 / 195,684 (-32%)
25./28. [NDS] Metal Fight Beyblade (Hudson) - 4,286 / 29,925 (-2%)
26./16. [NDS] Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's: Stardust Accelerator World Championship 2009 (Konami) - 4,230 / 59,180 (-35%)
27./27. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) - 4,142 / 4,980,183 (-10%)
28./24. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 4,013 / 2,218,756 (-15%)
29./00. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master 2: The Seven Island Adventure (Namco Bandai Games) - 3,997 / 550,757
30./00. [NDS] Pokemon Platinum (Nintendo/Pokemon Co.) - 3,939 / 2,386,243

*. [360] Godfather 2 (Electronic Arts Victor) - 2,800 / NEW
*. [PSP] 12Riven: The Psi-Climinal of Integral (CyberFront) - 2,200 / NEW
*. [PSP] Remember 11: The Age of Infinity (CyberFront) - 2,000 / NEW


Bar Chart Apr 13-19 (thanks to JoshuaJSlone/garaph.info)

2009-04-13

Note: Image may be delayed from the time of this post, but will automatically show once the data is ready.


Misc. LTD Updates
[WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo) - 1,789,924
[WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 2,672,811
[WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 3,481,469


Recent Famitsu Top 30s

Mar 16-22, 2009
Mar 23-29, 2009
Mar 30-Apr 5, 2009
Apr 6-12, 2009
 
Based on the latest Famitsu hardware numbers...
PSP comparisons: After 228 weeks, PSP is where PS2 was at 180.8 weeks (August 16, 2003), where DS was at 99.9 weeks (October 28, 2006), and where GBA was at 154.0 weeks (February 29, 2004).

X360 comparisons: After 176 weeks, X360 is where GCN was at 16.7 weeks (January 4, 2002), where PS3 was at 37.0 weeks (July 22, 2007), and where Wii was at 5.2 weeks (January 1, 2007).

PS3 comparisons: After 128 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 43.9 weeks (December 30, 2000), where PSP was at 65.8 weeks (March 1, 2006), where GCN was at 120.9 weeks (January 3, 2004), and where Wii was at 34.1 weeks (July 23, 2007).

Note that the big PS3 week did push it into GCN 2004 territory, but it hasn't yet caught up to GameCube.
PS3+in+terms+of+GCN


Wii comparisons: After 125 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 95.4 weeks (January 15, 2003), where DS was at 76.5 weeks (May 17, 2006), where PS2 was at 114.3 weeks (May 7, 2002), and where PSP was at 163.1 weeks (January 20, 2008).

DSi comparisons: After 25 weeks, DSi is where GBASP was at 44.7 weeks (December 19, 2003) and where DSL was at 14.5 weeks (June 7, 2006).

Famitsu Software Stuff

A few sequels fail to do much this week.

Well, the latest Pokémon Mystery Dungeon is really a third version rather than a sequel, but whatever it is it doesn't start off anywhere near as well.

0


Deca Sporta 2 (3502) is a sequel, and has a first week about 1/8 of the first game (2823).
400



Mario & Luigi RPG 3 (3432) remains in the top 5. This is its first week below 20K, though.
400


Taiko no Tatsujin Wii passes 500K.
3314+-+Taiko+no+Tatsujin+Wii+-+Wii


The Valkyria Chronicles BEST rerelease does even better this week.
3498+-+Valkyria+Chronicles+%28PlayStation+3+The+Best%29+-+PS3


Some of the top 30 was below 4,000 this week. The last time that happened was the week of October 13, 2008. It was actually pretty common from April through October last year, though prior to that it had't happened since 2006.

Famitsu Software Pie note: DS had over 50% of software sales this week. Though it is usually on top, this is the first time it's had over half since November.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Based on the latest Famitsu hardware numbers...
PS3 comparisons: After 128 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 43.9 weeks (December 30, 2000), where PSP was at 65.8 weeks (March 1, 2006), where GCN was at 120.9 weeks (January 3, 2004), and where Wii was at 34.1 weeks (July 23, 2007).

Note that the big PS3 week did push it into GCN 2004 territory, but it hasn't yet caught up to GameCube.
PS3+in+terms+of+GCN

Did the Gamecube get a price cut to get that huge climb at the point where it last overtook the PS3?
 

Rolf NB

Member
pseudocaesar said:
Did the Gamecube get a price cut to get that huge climb at the point where it last overtook the PS3?
Christmas. Gamecube launched earlier in the year, so the seasons don't line up in that graph.
 

gcubed

Member
markatisu said:
Famitsu also has been tracking the Wii at more stable levels (still shit sales), Media-Create is where the biggest decline was seen on a more consistent basis.

So I guess things are finally back to normal if only by 1k in Famitsu :lol

whatever makes you sleep better at night
 
bcn-ron said:
Christmas. Gamecube launched earlier in the year, so the seasons don't line up in that graph.
Yep. Here's one that shows weekly sales and aligns by calendar date, so GCN is all alone for a bit at the beginning:
fam
 

donny2112

Member
Man, this is a horrible week! No Golden Week bump at all this year, apparently. #1 is < 50K again.

DSL 7500
DSi 47000
PSP 42000
Wii 20000
PS3 15000
PS2 6300
360 5200

1. NDS Made in Ore (Wario Ware) - 44K / 114K
2. NDS DBKai - 43K / 144K
3. NDS Pokemon: Explorers of the Sky - 41K / 283K
4. PSP MHP2G (BEST) - 23K / 698K
5. NDS Mario & Luigi RPG 3 - 22K / 594K
6. WII Wii Fit - 22K / 3,352K
7. WII MHG - 19K / 196K
8. WII Taiko Wii - 17K / 539K
9. PS2 PowerPro Major League 2009 - 15K / 56K
10. NDS Rhythm Tengoku Gold - 14K / 1,712K
 

Spiegel

Member
Famitsu Top Ten:

1. [NDS] Made in Ore (Wario Ware) (Nintendo)
2. [NDS] Dragon Ball Kai: Saiyajin Raishuu (Namco Bandai)
3. [NDS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky (Pokemon Co.)
4. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (BEST) (Capcom)
5. [NDS] Mario & Luigi RPG 3!!! (Nintendo)
6. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
7. [WII] Monster Hunter G (Capcom)
8. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii (Namco Bandai)
9. [PS2] Jikkyou Power Pro Major League 2009 (Konami)
10. [NDS] Rhythm Tengoku Gold (Nintendo)

Golden Week = Nintendo

So weird... Where the hell is Persona?
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Wonder if we'll actually see Wii ahead of PS3 in Media Create. MC has been tracking PS3 higher and Wii lower for about 2 months.
 

Laguna

Banned
Capcom, great move to announce MH3s release date in this weeks Famitsu. :lol They really know how to kill sales of their own games by announcing their stuff to early.
 

test_account

XP-39C²
Laguna said:
Capcom, great move to announce MH3s release date in this weeks Famitsu. :lol They really know how to kill sales of their own games by announcing their stuff to early.
How so? If i am not mistaken, it was earlier planed by Capcom and known that MH3 was going to be released this summer some time :)
 

cvxfreak

Member
Laguna said:
Capcom, great move to announce MH3s release date in this weeks Famitsu. :lol They really know how to kill sales of their own games by announcing their stuff to early.

Yeah, Capcom announcing RE5's release date over half a year early really hurt it. ;)
 

test_account

XP-39C²
bttb said:
19. [WII] Deca Sports 2 (Hudson) - 7,600 / 32,000
Pretty stable sales, it has been around the 7-8k range for 3 weeks in a row now if i am not mistaken. I read that the game got a price drop already, but still, seems like stable sales anyway :)
 
Blimey - I hadn't realised quite how much Inazuma had sold. That's a pretty nice number, and I'll be interested to see if it results in better upfront sales for the sequel.

Deca Sports 2 still trundling along as well :lol
 

DarkMehm

Member
donny2112 said:
Man, this is a horrible week! No Golden Week bump at all this year, apparently. #1 is < 50K again.

Historically Golden Week was never a big week. It just tends to be overrated on the internet. This isn't a holiday where lots of gifts and presents are bought.
 

donny2112

Member
DarkMehm said:
Historically Golden Week was never a big week. It just tends to be overrated on the internet. This isn't a holiday where lots of gifts and presents are bought.

Then maybe it's just when big games tend to be released that push it up. Looking at the yearly charts, it's pretty easy to see where Golden Week is based on hardware bumps for past years. This year? I may need to make a note. :lol

Here's a chart showing the PS2 vs. WII MHG numbers directly.

MHG.png
 

Laguna

Banned
cvxfreak said:
Yeah, Capcom announcing RE5's release date over half a year early really hurt it. ;)

... ok? ;) They should have waited some weeks since MHG seems to sell decent right now. And I doubt giving a fix releasedate for MH3 will help MHGs sales. Thats all I´m saying.
 

jesusraz

Member
bttb said:
23. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Level 5) - 6,400 / 341,000
At this rate it should easily hit the half million mark by the time its sequel arrives in October. With such strong, prolonged sales surely Nintendo has ear-marked this for a future release, even if it's just in Europe.
 

Minsc

Gold Member
bcn-ron said:
I currently estimate around three months.

Honeymoon's over (DSi >>> PSP).
Honeymoon's over (PS3 > Wii).
Honeymoon's over.(360 > PS2)

Who are the upcoming brides to be? I guess DQ, GT, and no idea if there is anyone interested in the 360. It may just have to hope the PS2 dies from old age to win by default. The PS3 seems to have the most honeymoons in its future.
 

Tenbatsu

Member
Nintendo will be the big winner in the next few months:
June: WiiSports Resort
July: Dragon Quest 9
August: Monster Hunter 3 Tri
September: Pokemon Gold/Silver
 

-Kh-

Banned
So basically, when there is no new software released or any new games have already dry up, the charts show the normal movement of slow-burners, mostly on Nintendo consoles.
 

donny2112

Member
Fafalada said:
Well, WiiFit had a 35% increase :p

Ok, so maybe it was that nobody released any compelling new games this year, so only old games got a minor bump. :lol

Tenbatsu said:
September: Pokemon Gold/Silver

They actuallly gave the month? I thought it was just Fall. September makes sense, though, as I think that's when Diamond/Pearl and Mystery Dungeon 2 were launched.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
DarkMehm said:
Historically Golden Week was never a big week. It just tends to be overrated on the internet. This isn't a holiday where lots of gifts and presents are bought.

it's great that you're an expert in japanese culture, but game sales factually have spiked the last several golden weeks. whether that's a result of better announcement timing or something intrinsic to golden week doesn't really matter--we're used to sales spiking and they didn't this year.
 

DarkMehm

Member
donny2112 said:
Then maybe it's just when big games tend to be released that push it up. Looking at the yearly charts, it's pretty easy to see where Golden Week is based on hardware bumps for past years. This year? I may need to make a note. :lol

This is 2005's Golden Week:

System: Aktuell Vorwoche +/- Veränderung [Gesamt 05]

NDS: 67'836 (64'247) + 3'589 [808'420]
PS2: 38'629 (40'471) - 1'842 [867'453]
PSP: 33'981 (38'778) - 4'797 [820'635]
GSP: 22'633 (14'616) + 8'017 [302'671]
GCN: 5'655 (6'125) - 470 [105'229]
GBA: 431 (448) - 17 [10'025]
Xbox: 169 (271) - 102 [6'917]

2004:

GSP: 61'087 (43'700) + 17'400 [1'147'000]
PS2: 52'281 (45'000) + 7'300 [1'142'400]
GCN: 9'416 (5'800) + 3'600 [347'600]
GBA: 4'501 (3'500) + 1'000 [130'500]

In 2006 the DS had a huge bump, but that was because Nintendo shipped much more than the weeks before. The rest had normal 20-30% bumps like almost every year:

Nintendo DS Lite 225.835 168.809 1.222.381
Nintendo DS 42.695 8.051 818.519
PSP 40.884 32.323 682.606
PlayStation2 29.837 25.763 559.816
Game Boy Advance SP 8.225 11.044 120.083
Game Boy Micro 5.034 18.390 85.501
Xbox 360 2.845 3.990 44.124
Gamecube 1.126 1.106 45.880

2007:

Nintendo DS Lite 285.123 255.971 2.886.428
Wii 101.320 102.522 1.452.072
PSP 35.172 33.860 839.395
PlayStation2 14.815 12.584 324.604
PlayStation3 12.974 12.791 417.056
Xbox 360 3.205 3.162 93.550
Gamecube 394 167 6.763
Game Boy Micro 340 630 18.350

This years bump is pretty much normal.

@stumpokapow: I just presented facts, where are yours?
 

markatisu

Member
MHG should finally be ~100% of that bad 1st shipment. Hopefully Capcom learned that the Starter Pak or something similar is what everyone wanted

From the looks of this weeks Famitsu issue they have because they have some sort of special edition of MH3 coming out
 
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