Media-Create Sales: Apr 27-May 3
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Laguna said:... ok?They should have waited some weeks since MHG seems to sell decent right now. And I doubt giving a fix releasedate for MH3 will help MHGs sales. Thats all I´m saying.
G should have pretty good legs for a third party Wii game, so I wouldn't worry too much.
donny2112 said:
Hah. Well done.
DarkMehm said:
It's not every console that gets the bump. Nintendo's bump was a non-bump this year, though.
Note: No combined weeks included.
#1's sales for Golden Week and the week after.
2002: 200K (new release), 60K
2003: 57K (new release), 25K
2004: 162K (new release), 64K
2008: 178K, 119K
2009: 101K (new release), 44K
This year isn't historically bad, but the top sellers are often much higher than what we're seeing for this year.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Erm, the facts you presented supported my conclusion. Golden Week generally causes a hardware spike, particularly for Nintendo systems. Your original position was that it doesn't. It does. It has historically. Your data supports this, notwithstanding attempts to explain WHY it does.
This year, here's what we have:
DSL　7500 + 1.3%
DSi　47000 + 2.1%
PSP　42000 - 15%
Wii　20000 +- 0
PS3　15000 - 21%
PS2　6300 - 2%
360　5200 - 35%
Looking at the week before last, Wii is flat, PS3 is flat-down, PSP is flat-up, DSi is up a little. PS2/360/DSL are kinda not really worth analyzing
In other words, no bump. Moreover, software didn't get any kind of bump at all. It's just as junk as it was last week. #10 at 14k this week, #30 at 6.1k. Last week #10 at 17k, #30 at 5.4k. No real change. Week before #10 at 12k, #30 at 4.1k. A little down.
Also, I think most people were expecting a BIGGER bump than usual intuitively this year because hardware sales have been so "low" recently compared to previous numbers, so I think some people were thinking the bump would be a jump-start.
This year, here's what we have:
DSL　7500 + 1.3%
DSi　47000 + 2.1%
PSP　42000 - 15%
Wii　20000 +- 0
PS3　15000 - 21%
PS2　6300 - 2%
360　5200 - 35%
Looking at the week before last, Wii is flat, PS3 is flat-down, PSP is flat-up, DSi is up a little. PS2/360/DSL are kinda not really worth analyzing
In other words, no bump. Moreover, software didn't get any kind of bump at all. It's just as junk as it was last week. #10 at 14k this week, #30 at 6.1k. Last week #10 at 17k, #30 at 5.4k. No real change. Week before #10 at 12k, #30 at 4.1k. A little down.
Also, I think most people were expecting a BIGGER bump than usual intuitively this year because hardware sales have been so "low" recently compared to previous numbers, so I think some people were thinking the bump would be a jump-start.
Stumpokapow said:
Actually in my OP I didn't mean that there was no bump at all, just that it is overrated. This year the top selling system was at 40k the week before Golden Week and it jumped to 56k. Thats not too bad, but still a low figure of course compared to past No 1s during GW.
I'm pulling for buttons. The increased install base of classic controllers in the wake of Monster Hunter can only be of benefit.Minsc said:
As for the Xbox 360, I have no idea what happened there anyway. I think Japan could have used a bit more protectionism, especially with all those currency fluctuations and financial meltdowns going on last year. That phase at the beginning of the gen where Japanese publishers put exclusives on the Xbox 360 for god knows what reason will seem like a weird, shameful memory soon, like that one time where they got all plastered and almost killed a hooker.
It is what it is though. The PS3's initial growth has been stifled by what happened, and it will never be undone completely.
Maybe next gen Japanese execs will remember the ratio between their hopes wrt their eggs in Microsoft's basket and the results they actually got. Maybe next gen some Japanese execs won't be Japanese execs anymore.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
So the Wii's finally on top of the PS3 again?
EDIT - Gotta wait for Media Create.
Seems that MHG Wii is doing quite well.
EDIT - Gotta wait for Media Create.
Seems that MHG Wii is doing quite well.
bcn-ron said:
Um ... hi?
I'm not saying people are disinterested in the demo, I'm simply saying that it isn't the primary reason for its sales. And if you're discounting the impact of Advent Children on people in Japan, I think you're kidding yourself - and there is a very big difference between the AC audience (the FF7 fans) and today's FF faithful. They are not the same, at least not to the same level of fandom whatsoever.
FF7 was a damned phenomenon.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
wow, Persona specially smells like some damage control on last week weird numbers. Will be interesting to watch how this trio does in MC and Dengeki.bttb said:
Flying_Phoenix said:
2 weeks in a row for Famitsu, but its MC where the Wii took a big ole shit the last 2 months
I could see them tied in MC this week, but the PS3 is returning back to dropping again
New Games for the Wii apparently just equal stable shitty console sales :lol
bcn-ron said:
My argument was with people saying 'XIII demo sells better than Tri's,' as I think they are severely missing the central reason why. I would consider AC vs. MHG the central reason.
And I would also guess that the reason for the PS3 sales' uptick was due to AC, not the demo.
Kobun Heat
Member
Oh lord, we're back to this.Kogepan said:
Kogepan said:
Sony needs it to do more than pretty well, it needs to is to at least keep the bumps that the big name software provides it.
PS3 lept over the Wii YTD but still remains ~4.9m behind in LTD, it cannot rely on massive AAA games to give it big sales and then drop like a rock. That was one of the Wii's pitfalls, when it ran out of big name games sales went into the toilet and it has had 6 months of virtually nothing. Its biggest game MHG in months only got it back to the stable level of shit it was at when the drought was in full force.
The Wii is in the same position, neither Sony or Nintendo should be happy with the state of their home consoles in Japan
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Haven't paid attention to Gold/Silver remake information, but it looks like the last three main series Pokémon games (Emerald, Diamond/Pearl, and Platinum) were all September releases.donny2112 said:
To be contrary: I checked my Blu-ray shelf, and about half the discs I've purchased for PS3 have been movies at least 10 years old.Spiegel said:
BishopLamont
Banned
Crap nvm, a day too early.
Jasoncheng
Member
inside-Ranking(numers from MediaCreate)
5/4~5/10
http://www.inside-games.jp/ranking/weekly.php?week=102
TOP30
NDS:13
Wii:8
PSP:5
PS2:2
PS3:2
No.30..............................MarioKartDS back!!!!!!!!!
5/4~5/10
http://www.inside-games.jp/ranking/weekly.php?week=102
TOP30
NDS:13
Wii:8
PSP:5
PS2:2
PS3:2
No.30..............................MarioKartDS back!!!!!!!!!
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
:lol :lolKogepan said:
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Kogepan said:
So theoretically the PS3 would sell twice as much if it was the same price.
Wait....what????
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Jasoncheng said:
translated:
http://chartget.com/2009/05/media-create-sales-0504-0510.html
someone feel free to copy/paste/start new thread~
Jasoncheng
Member
donny2112 said:
Because inside-Ranking sometimes has error ? XD
Tideas said:
Without the underlying reason for it selling low in the first place being remedied, a price drop would only provide a temporary increase. "The underlying reason is the price!" I believe the PS3 is now at or below the launch price of the PS2 in Japan. That would seem to indicate that it is not just the price.
Jasoncheng said:
Mainly it's just because my parser is setup for Gpara, and unless I'm posting the thread, the only thing I really need from that is the LTDs in the Top 10 to combine with the normal MC listing. Nothing personal against Inside-games.
pseudocaesar
Member
donny2112 said:Without the underlying reason for it selling low in the first place being remedied, a price drop would only provide a temporary increase. "The underlying reason is the price!" I believe the PS3 is now at or below the launch price of the PS2 in Japan. That would seem to indicate that it is not just the price.
Mainly it's just because my parser is setup for Gpara, and unless I'm posting the thread, the only thing I really need from that is the LTDs in the Top 10 to combine with the normal MC listing. Nothing personal against Inside-games.
yes but coupled with the fact that it is 3 years old now and not at launch, id say it has everything to do with the price. The backlog is more than sufficient to lay claim to the fact that it has no games released, although I understand the need for consistent releases. It still has to impact on it somehow.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
pseudocaesar said:
It would have nothing more than a short term impact.
Price drops cannot sustain console sales alone. This has been proven.
BishopLamont
Banned
I think his saying the discussion is pointless because you know we can't change the past. Not to mention it's an old, played-out meme people always use when the PS3 is getting outsold.Tideas said:
vicissitudes
Banned
jeremy1456 said:
What? No it hasn't. The PS3 had much better sales throughout 2008 in US and EU because of the price drop in Q4 of 2007. 360 was also being outsold by the PS3 in NPD for most of 2008 until the price drop, and it has been outselling the PS3 ever since.
thestopsign
Member
vicissitudes said:
He's talking about the Japanese market. The PS3 had a price drop in October 2007, it increased sales for a few weeks before dropping down (and then back up due to the holidays).
shykyoichi
Member
Are you saying that it will still be a PS3 if it's the same price as the Wii? What would it remove? The disk player?Tideas said: