Sammy Samusu
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Media Create Sales: Feb. 8 - 14, 2010
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Having a(nother, this isn't the first time) slow period is a sign of dropping the platform even if you have big games coming later like Xenoblade and The Last Story and Mario Galaxy 2 and Metroid Other M? Wow, please talk about the present where you have an actual point (zomg, slow in Japan, Nintendoomed) instead of ridiculous speculation :lolschuelma said:Just to clarify, I'm not even primarily talking about big releases like Galaxy 2 anymore- I am talking about actual (not re-releases) releases that have the potential to sell more than 25K LTD. There is literally NOTHING ANNOUNCED that meets that criteria right now. Nothing. Look at the lineup. The only game announced that might come out in the next 2-3 months is Xenoblade. We are talking about Reginleiv not doing that well....as it stands its going to be the biggest release on the platform for the next 2 months. That's not a strategy to save big guns for busier periods- its either: A- incompetence, B- Nintendo is preparing a revision and holding off on software (NOT Wii HD- a DSi type revision), or C- Nintendo and 3rd parties have dropped the platform.
Agnates said:Having a(nother really, this isn't the first time) slow period is a sign of dropping the platform even if you have big games coming later like Xenoblade and The Last Story and Mario Galaxy 2 and Metroid Other M? Wow :lol
I said it was one of the explanations. The most likely is incompetence. And again, this isn't merely a slow period- its a period that could go 3-4 months without a single release debuting above 25K. That's not slow- that's completely and utterly barren.
schuelma said:Just to clarify, I'm not even primarily talking about big releases like Galaxy 2 anymore- I am talking about actual (not re-releases) releases that have the potential to sell more than 25K LTD. There is literally NOTHING ANNOUNCED that meets that criteria right now. Nothing. Look at the lineup. The only game announced that might come out in the next 2-3 months is Xenoblade. We are talking about Reginleiv not doing that well....as it stands its going to be the biggest release on the platform for the next 2 months. That's not a strategy to save big guns for busier periods- its either: A- incompetence, B- Nintendo is preparing a revision and holding off on software (NOT Wii HD- a DSi type revision), or C- Nintendo and 3rd parties have dropped the platform.
I'm not quite sure how this is much of a development from your original post.
I'm not denying that it may be incompetence (ie. Nintendo's failure to attract third-party development, thinking that it would come of its own accord) that drove Nintendo into this situation. Evidently, Nintendo does not have "enough" titles that might be released to create a healthy software environment (and, depending on the continued success of NSMB, to prop up Wii hardware sales). (It may also be the case that Nintendo has made the conscious decision to release fewer but better titles, and I think it's too early to tell as to whether or not that's been a bad choice.)
However, as I have already said, it may be the case that due to past mistakes Nintendo will inevitably be stuck with dry periods later this year, and it would rather prefer to lump them all together as much as possible. I'm happy to wait until January 2011 to find out if this were the case, or if Nintendo is simply being that incompetent or apathetic about scheduling.
I'm really trying to understand what's so controversial about what I'm saying. Heck, I'm happy to allow for Nintendo historically being incompetent with its game releases (in that it may never have needed to sufficiently develop this skill). I really just don't think that this is a case of them being especially stupid. I'd liken this to what Opiate has said about third parties and their general development: they've made some especially bad decisions at the beginning of the generation, but given the circumstance they're handling themselves quite well at the moment.
schuelma said:I said it was one of the explanations. The most likely is incompetence. And again, this isn't merely a slow period- its a period that could go 3-4 months without a single release debuting above 25K. That's not slow- that's completely and utterly barren.
So now Nintendo's lack of releases stretches on for four months? We're predicting that Nintendo will release no games in Japan until June?
Agnates said:Wow, please talk about the present where you have an actual point (zomg, slow in Japan, Nintendoomed) instead of ridiculous speculation :lol
Listen, you'll probably be gone within the month so I won't spend too much time on this, but please, spare me your rhetoric. I am in no way a Nintendo hater or anything like that. Some people in this thread probably consider me a slightly more intelligible Hero of Legend. If you can look at what Nintendo has going in Japan for the Wii and think I don't have a point, then you're even more of a Nintendo fanboy than I thought you were.
Pureauthor
Member
Sp, hey guys, do we consider Nintendo of Japan's inability to produce new games better or worse than NoA's inability/refusal to localize games that already exist?
gerg said:So now Nintendo's lack of releases stretches on for four months? We're predicting that Nintendo will release no games in Japan until June?
RE: DC released 1/14.
It's now 2/18.
The earliest something like Xenoblade or another random 1st or 3rd party game can realistically come out is probably 6-8 weeks. So at the minimum you are looking at a 3 month period without a single release debuting above 25K.
I trust his Amazon sales analysis much more than your biased anti-Nintendo ramblings. Don't you have some Xbox releases to cheer for or something?schuelma said:Listen, you'll probably be gone within the month so I won't spend too much time on this, but please, spare me your rhetoric. I am in no way a Nintendo hater or anything like that. Some people in this thread probably consider me a slightly more intelligible Hero of Legend. If you can look at what Nintendo has going in Japan for the Wii and think I don't have a point, then you're even more of a Nintendo fanboy than I thought you were.
Pureauthor
Member
Agnates said:I think you do have a point, and I urged you to stick to that point instead of, again, ridiculous, stupid, and fanboyish doomsday speculation.
It's not speculation to say that (A) Nintendo has nothing out for a couple months, and that (B) this is not a good thing.
Agnates said:I think you do have a point, and I urged you to stick to that point instead of, again, ridiculous, stupid, and fanboyish doomsday speculation. But thanks.
Yes, its my deepest fanboy dream that Nintendo is dropping the Wii. You found me out, the game is up. I shall wear my HD loving badge with pride.
Pureauthor said:Sp, hey guys, do we consider Nintendo of Japan's inability to produce new games better or worse than NoA's inability/refusal to localize games that already exist?
Hmm..I'm going to go with Nintendo Japan on that one. I hate Reggie, but I don't think he has nearly as much influence and sway as many people think. I also think Japan should have been a much more favorable environment for software than N.A (at least in terms of 3rd party developers).
That's not the part I said he speculated over mr lawyer. Nor did I disagree with it.Pureauthor said:It's not speculation to say that (A) Nintendo has nothing out for a couple months, and that (B) this is not a good thing.
Dascu said:I trust his Amazon sales analysis much more than your biased anti-Nintendo ramblings. Don't you have some Xbox releases to cheer for or something?
BALD MARINES 4 LIFE BRO
I think schuelma is the lawyer, actually.Agnates said:That's not the part I said he speculated over mr lawyer.
schuelma said:RE: DC released 1/14.
It's now 2/18.
The earliest something like Xenoblade or another random 1st or 3rd party game can realistically come out is probably 6-8 weeks. So at the minimum you are looking at a 3 month period without a single release debuting above 25K.
I misread your statement. I thought you were arguing that this period could go on for another three to four months, which is what I found quite radical.
gerg said:I misread your statement. I thought you were arguing that this period could go on for another three to four months, which is what I found quite radical.
No, I don't think Nintendo is that dumb....
Or are they???
Dascu said:I think schuelma is the lawyer, actually.
Damn skippy. I'm really busy and productive as you can see.
Dascu said:I trust his Amazon sales analysis much more than your biased anti-Nintendo ramblings. Don't you have some Xbox releases to cheer for or something?
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So, it looks pretty good for Reginleiv to get at least another shipment. Hopefully, the first day number was wrong, and it had better legs than 5K over the weekend. :lol
Cosmonaut X
Member
*sidesteps yet another discussion about the Wii release schedule...*
Kind of meh-ish first week for Reginleiv - better than some people imagined, but not quite as good as it could have been. I doubt the premium price helped, but nice to see it (apparently) moving quite briskly through its first shipment.
Kind of meh-ish first week for Reginleiv - better than some people imagined, but not quite as good as it could have been. I doubt the premium price helped, but nice to see it (apparently) moving quite briskly through its first shipment.
schuelma said:BALD MARINES 4 LIFE BRO
:lol
all this time you managed to deceive us, no more i say, no more! Like my country man would say: "juuuriis!"
hillarious!
Pureauthor
Member
duckroll said:Someone on 2ch pointed out that Nintendo has released a RPG at the end of May every year since 2007.
24th May 2007 - Kurikin (DS)
20th May 2008 - Glory of Heracles (DS)
21st May 2009 - Magic Wand (Wii)
Spring 2010 - Xenoblade (Wii)
Which of these are good games?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Heracles is milquetoast and the other two didn't get localized.
is this cavia..?bttb said:http://www.aqi.co.jp/ir/2010/data/20100218.pdf
AQI Presentation Materials: 9 months ended December 2009.
Consumer Game Division:
- 65k units shipped in Japan.
- 341k units shipped overseas.
Contract Development Division:
- Milestone of 50 contracts reached. (FY09 = 35, FY08 = 30)
- 360 = 13, PSP = 12, Wii = 17, Other = 2, PS3 = 5
Contract Development Highlights:
- Resident Evil: Dark Side Chronicles (Capcom)
- NieR Gestalt/NieR Replicant (Square Enix)
- Ninety-Nine Nights II (Konami Digital Entertainment)
- The Last Story (Mistwalker Corporation)
AQ Interactive owns Artoon, Cavia, Feel Plus, Microcabin and XSEED. RE: DSC and Nier are Cavia, N3-2 is Feel Plus, and Last Story is very likely Artoon, since Mistwalker has definitely been working with them on something since 2007. The director of Blue Dragon is likely the director of Last Story as well in this case.
ah okay that solves the mister M mystery right..?duckroll said:AQ Interactive owns Artoon, Cavia, Feel Plus, Microcabin and XSEED. RE: DSC and Nier are Cavia, N3-2 is Feel Plus, and Last Story is very likely Artoon, since Mistwalker has definitely been working with them on something since 2007. The director of Blue Dragon is likely the director of Last Story as well in this case.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
AAAAANNNNDDDD there goes any interest I had in The Last Story...
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Nuclear Muffin said:AAAAANNNNDDDD there goes any interest I had in The Last Story...
why
Sammy Samusu
Member
Nintendo EAD must be very busy with DSiWare games, take Intelligent Systems in example.
Oh, Nintendo...
Xenoblade > The Last Story
Confirmed.
Oh, Nintendo...
Xenoblade > The Last Story
Confirmed.
Team AndromedaJonnyram said:Well who the hell did you think was gonna make it? Squaresoft?
Jonnyram said:Well who the hell did you think was gonna make it? Squaresoft?
Produced by Sakaguchi
Scenario and Game Design by Matsuno
Directed by Sakurai
Developed by Sora and GameArts
Additional Development Support by Intelligent Systems
AceBandage
Banned
duckroll said:Produced by Sakaguchi
Scenario and Game Design by Matsuno
Directed by Sakurai
Developed by Sora and GameArts
Additional Development Support by Intelligent Systems
Super Smash Story?
velvet_nitemare
Member
Pretty ridiculous that schuelma is being accused of being anti-nintendo and called a fanboy.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
schuelma - anti-Nintendo.
lulz.
lulz.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
velvet_nitemare said:Pretty ridiculous that schuelma is being accused of being anti-nintendo and called a fanboy.
yeah that's probably the best one since the thread last month where charlequin, who owns a DS, a Wii, a 360, and no functional Sony consoles, was accused of being a rabid sony fan and derailing the thread.
velvet_nitemare
Member
Next we'll be calling Scrubking a HD fanboy.Stumpokapow said:yeah that's probably the best one since the thread last month where charlequin, who owns a DS, a Wii, a 360, and no functional Sony consoles, was accused of being a rabid sony fan and derailing the thread.
Damn it. I was hoping Sakurai and Sora were working on Grandia IV.duckroll said:Produced by Sakaguchi
Scenario and Game Design by Matsuno
Directed by Sakurai
Developed by Sora and GameArts
Additional Development Support by Intelligent Systems
duckroll said:I thought it's common knowledge that after I associated him with Hero of Legend the last time, he PM'd me with evidence that he sold his Wii and DS and bought 4 PS3s in different colors. He's a certified anti-Nintendo fanbot now. Serious!
I bought 11 copies of Uncharted 2 and forced them upon some of my former Wiitard brethren. I kept the other 5 copies for myself, and made a shrine to Nathan Drake in my bedroom.
Jonnyram said:Damn it. I was hoping Sakurai and Sora were working on Grandia IV.
They are. The full title which will be revealed when the official site opens fully is Grandia IV: The Last Story.