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Kurosaki Ichigo
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And how does that sound anything other than giving it the middle finger?schuelma said:
Wii MH3G, PS3 MH3, DS2 MH3G...PSP oh, the spinoff and maybe a port in 2010 or 2011 of original MH3. Superb strategies here guys.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Based on the latest Famitsu hardware numbers...
PSP comparisons: After 256 weeks, PSP is where PS2 was at 198.9 weeks (December 20, 2003), where DS was at 105.8 weeks (December 9, 2006), and where GBA was at 177.2 weeks (August 10, 2004).
X360 comparisons: After 204 weeks, X360 is where GCN was at 20.8 weeks (February 2, 2002), where PS3 was at 42.6 weeks (August 30, 2007), and where Wii was at 6.2 weeks (January 8, 2007).
PS3 comparisons: After 156 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 58.6 weeks (April 12, 2001), where PSP was at 86.3 weeks (August 1, 2006), where GCN was at 191.4 weeks (May 11, 2005), and where Wii was at 49.7 weeks (November 9, 2007).
Wii comparisons: After 153 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 104.6 weeks (March 20, 2003), where DS was at 80.2 weeks (June 13, 2006), where PS2 was at 125.6 weeks (July 25, 2002), and where PSP was at 174.0 weeks (April 6, 2008).
DSi comparisons: After 53 weeks, DSi is where GBASP was at 75.9 weeks (July 24, 2004) and where DSL was at 25.1 weeks (August 21, 2006).
PSPgo comparisons: After 1 week, PSPgo is where GBm was at 0.2 weeks (September 12, 2005). Yes, I realize GBm didn't release until the 13th, but these are the kind of temporary oddities you can get when dealing with launches by weeks.
PSP comparisons: After 256 weeks, PSP is where PS2 was at 198.9 weeks (December 20, 2003), where DS was at 105.8 weeks (December 9, 2006), and where GBA was at 177.2 weeks (August 10, 2004).
X360 comparisons: After 204 weeks, X360 is where GCN was at 20.8 weeks (February 2, 2002), where PS3 was at 42.6 weeks (August 30, 2007), and where Wii was at 6.2 weeks (January 8, 2007).
PS3 comparisons: After 156 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 58.6 weeks (April 12, 2001), where PSP was at 86.3 weeks (August 1, 2006), where GCN was at 191.4 weeks (May 11, 2005), and where Wii was at 49.7 weeks (November 9, 2007).
Wii comparisons: After 153 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 104.6 weeks (March 20, 2003), where DS was at 80.2 weeks (June 13, 2006), where PS2 was at 125.6 weeks (July 25, 2002), and where PSP was at 174.0 weeks (April 6, 2008).
DSi comparisons: After 53 weeks, DSi is where GBASP was at 75.9 weeks (July 24, 2004) and where DSL was at 25.1 weeks (August 21, 2006).
PSPgo comparisons: After 1 week, PSPgo is where GBm was at 0.2 weeks (September 12, 2005). Yes, I realize GBm didn't release until the 13th, but these are the kind of temporary oddities you can get when dealing with launches by weeks.
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I agree completely with you- and all I've tried to say is based on the spin-off announcement it seems possible that the port is going to be based off 3G and will come out later, perhaps holiday 2010 instead of earlier (and the only way that makes a bit of sense to me is if Nintendo gave them a massive moneyhat for a bigger exclusivety window than we thought).
Stumpokapow said:
Agreed. I've seen a lot of criticism about Square's outsourcing strategy this gen, and I think it's a pretty poor thing to attack. I think this strategy has been one of the better elements brought to the company thanks to the Enix merger. Given how tied up much of the company's internal resources have been on big flagship titles, the outsourcing has enabled Square to continue to put out a high volume of games, most of which still live up to the company's quality expectations.
In most cases, the design, scenario, art, and music are all still done internally so these still feel and look like Square games... but the programming is done externally. Have most of these games taken an appreciable visual hit because of this, or have they suffered problems with the implementation of the design? In most cases no, I don't think so -- you look at the Jupiter or Matrix or Think & Feel stuff and they still look about as high quality as you could expect from a Square game, and when problems crop up, they're mostly design rather than execution issues.
Does Chocobo's Dungeon 3 look appreciably worse given its platform than Chocobo's Dungeon 1 or 2? Does h.a.n.d.'s programming seem sloppy in some sense that has contributed to hurting the quality of the game? No... I don't think outsourcing played any role in anything.
The one upside to the outsourcing strategy that I think Square still hasn't gotten nearly enough mileage out of is the ability to give younger, less experienced designers the reigns of a game to let them get more experience and put out some more original products. We saw that with The World Ends With You and Sigma Harmonics, but I don't think it's been done quite enough as it could have been. I think you still need an experienced, engaged producer to make sure things don't get too out there and the game is still marketable and successful (which did not happen with Kitase on the latter game), but other than that, it's a pretty good formula for building up a stronger library of titles.
Well, there is one other longshot possibility.schuelma said:
If the PSP2 is coming in holiday 2010, perhaps Sony convinced them to put it on both the PSP and PSP2, and also convinced them to wait until the PSP2 is out to release either version.
I can't imagine Capcom waiting that long on a PSP port just for a Nintendo moneyhat. It seems too risky for the future of the brand.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Elios83 said:
onken said:
What are we expecting the split will be for Basara on PS3/Wii?
markatisu said:
Why would Nintendo release Wii Fit Plus? Why would Nintendo release Brain Training 2?
Yes, its still selling consistently, but you're staring a guaranteed 2.5-3m in sales right in the face and I don't see why Capcom would want to wait to get those sales.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I am such a geek.:lolethelred said:
I was hung on every word of that post.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Nirolak said:
schuelma said:
Why such expectations? Is the Wii version gimped or something?
AranhaHunter said:
A few reasons..
1- This type of game has more of a built in audience on the PS3
2- There is no real reason for any non Wii only owner to get the Wii version. The graphics are upgraded on the PS3, there is no additional content or motion controls on the Wii version, and at least in N.A the PS3 version has online coop.
amtentori said:
I don't think leaderboards would make that big of a deal for Punch-Out!! at all. It's a puzzle game more or less. It is skill-based but if there were leaderboards the top 20 would probably all be the exact times. Classic Controller support is a moot point as well. Just turn the Wii-mote sideways and play the game NES-style, which is how it is meant to be play as far as I'm concerned... it only needs two buttons, lol.
I agree with most other points for the most part by the way, not exactly but I just wanted to comment on this.... PUNCHOUT RULES.
slaughterking
Member
I'm not sure if we ever got to know how big the shipment of FF Gaiden was, but the Producer wants us to believe that the game has a supply issue. The game is apparently hard to find (in some places?) and the next shipment wont be out before the end of November.
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2009/11/12/four_warriors_shortages/
/edit/ I see that Kurosaki already posted that.
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2009/11/12/four_warriors_shortages/
/edit/ I see that Kurosaki already posted that.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Is 428: Fūsa Sareta Shibuya de the same across platforms? Though not a simultaneous release.schuelma said:
However, you're also forgetting the ultra-visible simultaneous releases of PS3 and Wii (and PS2 and X360) versions of Need for Speed: Carbon back in December 2006.
distantmantra
Member
Nirolak said:
Being one of GAF's resident Gundam/SRW nerds, I can safely say there hasn't been a release like that yet. The closest would be SD Gundam G Generation Wars on the PS2 and Wii.
Chris1964 said:
Given how the game came into being, I wouldn't expect to hear anything about it until at least six months after the Wii release. At the very least, Capcom certainly is not going to announce anything prior to the western release which Nintendo is promising to help with promotionally.
(yeah, yeah, RE4; Capcom didn't need any help selling that, though, and they weren't being paid for that game, and they weren't getting any marketing assistance)
BishopLamont
Banned
Why are you so bent on what Capcom is doing with the MH franchise on the PSP? The way they're doing it is the best way to milk the franchise. They've improved the franchise on the console front and when it gets ported to the PSP it'll do gangbusters no matter when it releases. The PSP fanbase doesn't mind that it's a port, they never did, otherwise it wouldn't be the franchise it is today. It doesn't matter if it's MH3P or MH3 PSP, it'll sell regardless.Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Oh and if a game keeps selling it means it has legs, doesn't matter if it's selling 1k, 10k or 50k a week. NSMB and MK DS still sells a few thousand copies each week, would you not call that legs?
schuelma said:
Assuming that there aren't any formal written contracts in place here regarding this type of support (a questionable assumption), I'm sure there's a pretty tacit understanding that while such an announcement wouldn't have a huge impact on sales, it would have a significant impact on the level of support a competing platform manufacturer is willing to offer in order to help make the series successful.
Capcom knows the PSP game is coming, Nintendo knows the PSP game is coming, but if Nintendo's position is that they're going to offer financial support to make the series big in the west, it certainly does not do for Capcom to announce a new version on a competing platform prior to that release -- not if they want that commitment to remain intact. And like I said, Nintendo knows it's coming, but with any exclusivity agreement, there are expectations about maintaining the open secret facade for as long as possible.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Well, I've seen such things have some effect on GAF for games like Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon and Shiren 3, buuuut yeah we're not much of a "real impact".schuelma said:
You have a strong point here.ethelred said:
Do we actually have a date for Monster Hunter 3 in North America beyond Q1? I was originally expecting it to come in March, but now that I think about it, it might come earlier so the marketing train on the next PSP title can get going.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
schuelma said:
It's good to note that MH Unite (aka MHP2G) has sold through over 150k in North America with absolutely no advertising, just word of mouth.
DMeisterJ said:
Mean.
Did I really say it would be announced at TGS? I had hoped so, and I had believed it could happen given that MH3 was announced prior to MHP2G launch, but I'm sure (maybe) that I didn't say it with 100% conviction.
I don't know about you, but I think Spiegel thought that would happen.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Chris1964 said:
Ahahahahahaha they expected 900k with the kind of support they've given MH outside of Japan?
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Nirolak said:
Difference is they are probably expecting Nintendo to foot the advertising bill, I was at Target last night and they are clearancing Unite out for $19.
MH3 is probably the last chance the series has outside of Japan imho, Capcom certainly did not do much for Unite or any of the past games to prove otherwise.