Huh, this is the first time I've ever heard of this.
So how much creative freedom does Retro get or are they pretty much just on a collar and leash? DKCR seemed to be described as a game they really wanted to make and begged Nintendo to let them do.
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Media Create Sales: Week 14, 2013 (Apr 01 - Apr 07)
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Huh, this is the first time I've ever heard of this.
So how much creative freedom does Retro get or are they pretty much just on a collar and leash? DKCR seemed to be described as a game they really wanted to make and begged Nintendo to let them do.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Not many releases though, store traffic should be low. Is this a valid point?
michaelius
Banned
Last year drop was around 10% from week 14 to 15.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470720
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470720
metalslimer
Member
Vita is coming off a pricedrop and has not found its baseline, so there is no predicting how quick it will drop because of that pricedrop. Also unless Soul Sacrifice stops dropping soon it will be off the charts and unable to sustain vita. Still good for a new ip.
Year of Phanto. People will be scarred for life by 2015.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Oh nice, 17k would be good.
The Horror the horror
Banned
Same, first time I've read that.
Thing is, I understand where Nintendo is coming from. They need Retro to develop the type of games that Nintendo's other in-house teams don't have a strong grasp on. Nothing against DKCR - great game - but it's a game that EAD could have tackled just as brilliantly with its platformer pedigree.
Sammy Samusu
Member
They had creative freedom when they first started and the result was Madden and Twisted Metal.
Some guys left Retro and look at where their creative minds got them. *cackles*
Retro are highly skilled monkeys. They code stuff and they should be happy. Next Level is happy, why wouldn't Retro?
I do think Nintendo actually decided it was best to let DKC sequel be developed by a western team.
DKC was never seen an EAD effort.
We got EAD take on DK with Jungle Beat.
fixed
I wanna see the receipts
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I would die.
GiantBreadbug
Member
G&W will have legs, I think. Not huge, muscular legs, but legs nonetheless.
Is/has Monster Games become more of an all-purpose developer instead of just racing? It seems like Nintendo is moving them towards a direction where they can take on anything.
BishopLamont
Banned
Pretty much.
Well the original DKC trilogy was made by Rare - a western company, made sense for Retro to give it a crack.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
Looking back some people's predictions for Vita were very optimistic in April. I feel like I lowballed it but even after one week this is less than I would have thought for a drop. I know everyone looks at Wii U collapsing but the Vita schedule is now just as bad for the next month out. Both are equally terrible, but the only silver lining for Vita in April is to see if the price drop creates a higher baseline. But I doubt it.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Soul Sacrifice on its way to 200k LTD
KH HD is also showing strong sales so far.
KH HD is also showing strong sales so far.
Valkyria
Banned
Maybe almost there with the double pack sales.
BishopLamont
Banned
20k is an optimistic baseline, 15k is more realistic, 10k is bomba land.
I doubt it'll be even as good as even Batman: The Brave and the Bold. We'll see.
#yearofluigi
You are on fire!
and my hero for rescuing Captain Rainbow.
EDIT:
That would be super awesome and a big surprise.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
I don't see how 20k could even happen after one week. There's no significant releases for the month to maintain any kind of momentum. But I'd love to be proved wrong. I think weekly average for the month will be 13k to 13.5k.
Edit: looking at upcoming release list I see a bunch of best price titles will hit last week of April, which I was not aware of when predicting. Might attract some consumers inticed by the price drop, but probably not by much. Do we normally see sales rise slightly prior to Golden Week or spikes restricted to the two Golden Week weekends?
lo zaffo
Member
I would love to play GiFTPiA on my GameCube even if graphics wise it was a little hollow.
With one game in the next 2 months I think the baseline will be around 12k a week. Just because the price has gone down I don't think the baseline will be at 20k, 3DS struggles at 50k a week with no games
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
If we're talking baseline I think it will go below that, but monthly average I'm thinking will be higher than 12k. I anticipate around 9k to 10k by last week of April.
BishopLamont
Banned
I agree, I think sub-10k is inevitable.
Doubt it, otherwise we'd have Super Luigi U as a new game instead of just DLC expansion.
Now, a brand new Luigi platformer/adventure for Wii U? Thats certainly not out of the question.
End of 2012.
What if the yet to be announced 3D Mario is actually a game where Mario is kidnapped and Luigi has got to save him? Peach can be played as well in co-op.
Makes perfect sense, since Mario is always the one frustrating Bowser's plans to keep Peach kidnapped. So he locks Mario up in a castle to prevent him from disturbing his plan to kidnap Peach. And of course he forgets about Luigi. Because, let's face it... I love Luigi but he is afraid of ghosts.
Get ready for Super Luigi U(niverse) at E3.
#YearOfLuigi
Makes perfect sense, since Mario is always the one frustrating Bowser's plans to keep Peach kidnapped. So he locks Mario up in a castle to prevent him from disturbing his plan to kidnap Peach. And of course he forgets about Luigi. Because, let's face it... I love Luigi but he is afraid of ghosts.
Get ready for Super Luigi U(niverse) at E3.
#YearOfLuigi
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
Unless Luigi is outperforming in America and Europe, I doubt it.
All charts launch-aligned. All numbers from Media Create.
Weekly numbers presented in logarithmic base 1,000 for clarity. In that case, zero units are represented by one unit.
Note, since this draws only from the top 10 it does not represent smaller titles.
e.g., software sales of zero are assumed if the console has no games in the top 10.
Tally of the number of titles for that platform in the top 20 for each week.
I can't find the top 20 for PS3's second week. It has been assumed as zero.
Feel free to criticize or point out mistakes.
Weekly numbers presented in logarithmic base 1,000 for clarity. In that case, zero units are represented by one unit.
Note, since this draws only from the top 10 it does not represent smaller titles.
e.g., software sales of zero are assumed if the console has no games in the top 10.
Tally of the number of titles for that platform in the top 20 for each week.
I can't find the top 20 for PS3's second week. It has been assumed as zero.
Feel free to criticize or point out mistakes.
As much as I loved DKCR and would love a sequel, I completely agree with this. Have DKCR 2 made by EAD so Retro can make more mature games like Metroid or a new IP.
Herb Alpert
Banned
I doubt it too, although I like the idea. But in France, LM2 is numero uno on Amazon. I haven't seen that for a Nintendo title for ages.
staticneuron
Member
That is that I was thinking as well. Also the Vita would be in a sorry state if it cant pass the 360 LTD this year.
With the drums, it was a wonderful, wonderful game. So fun. EAD Tokyo's first game for Nintendo, right?
Yes, and it got the "shader effects" SMG would have been known for on Wii.
Both Galaxy games let you replay everything as Luigi after beating the game. No reason to have a Luigi specific platformer with that precedence.
How about new 3D Luigi title with Mario as DLC?
EDIT:
leave me alone. let me dream!
How about new 3D Luigi title with Mario as DLC?
Think the most to hope for in a 3-D Mario game is a choice at start to play as Mario or Luigi with Mario still getting top-billing.
Luigi was actually playable after the first few galaxies or something in SMG2. I don't exactly remember when it was, but it definitely was not after you beat the game. SM3DLand did that though.
I know, right?
But what if instead of playing with Luigi after beating the game we can play it with Luigi from the start and with Mario after we beat it? Perfect sense again, because Mario would be freed only after Luigi rescues him, which implies Mario can not be played from the star because he is, uh, locked up. I'm a genius. Nintendo hire me.
BishopLamont
Banned
3D Mario & Luigi platformer. Co-op, local and multiplayer.How about new 3D Luigi title with Mario as DLC?
It'd sell billions.
Mario is Missing Temporarily.
Asymmetric gameplay using the Gamepad! It could happen.
Looking forward to whatever new term Nintendo comes up with to describe this (as noted in their last Q&A), as this really is just a non-intuitive way to describe the addition of the GamePad screen to play options.
KillerTravis
Banned
Damn dat Animal Crossing. I think it's time to move it to the A tier category of the sales of Nintendo franchises. Luigi is doing really good as well.
Hmm. I predicted the drop for Vita was to 23K. Off by 4K. Not bad.
This kind of reasoning irks me. You were off by 21%. That's not that close.
Edit:
There was a former poster who used to do weekly predictions for systems that would sell ~5K. He'd predict like 6K, and it was 4K, and he'd pat himself on the back for being 2K off, when he was 50% off.
Multiple play!