Media Create Sales: Week 27, 2017 (Jul 03 - Jul 09)

zelas said:
Only 3 Switch games in the top 20 and they're all just Nintendo published titles. Can we even begin to argue about the "nintendo audience" not buying third party games when Nintendo is handicapping software sales themselves with the meager amount of hardware making it to market?

The Switch demand hasnt been touching third parties lately even though the consensus seems to be that third parties are trying harder with their Nintendo versions of titles. Even ARMS is feeling the effects of low supply with its numbers dropping so much each week. It really seems like third party efforts are being completely wasted thanks to the current hardware situation. And that certainly isn't encouraging hesitant publishers to jump in sooner than later.
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What 3rd party release in Japan (we could talk world wide, but this is Media Create) are you even talking about?
 
PREDICTION LEAGUE DRAGON QUEST XI EDITION

Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Jul 24 to Jul 30):

[PS4] PlayStation 4 Hardware (7 days) - 100k
[3DS] Nintendo 3DS Hardware (7 days) - 90k
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 800k
[3DS] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 700k

Aostia said:
I would say splatoon 2 week 1 will be higher than arms YTD sales
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Wow... That's a... bold prediction...
 
zelas said:
Only 3 Switch games in the top 20 and they're all just Nintendo published titles. Can we even begin to argue about the "nintendo audience" not buying third party games when Nintendo is handicapping software sales themselves with the meager amount of hardware making it to market?

The Switch demand hasnt been touching third parties lately even though the consensus seems to be that third parties are trying harder with their Nintendo versions of titles. Even ARMS is feeling the effects of low supply with its numbers dropping so much each week. It really seems like third party efforts are being completely wasted thanks to the current hardware situation. And that certainly isn't encouraging hesitant publishers to jump in sooner than later.
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I'm not sure what you are expecting. There isn't any huge 3rd party games and some of the more notable ones like Bomberman have done well.
 
I don't want to influence with my comment people's predictions and I don't say it will not happen, but 1.5 million first week would be bomba territory for Dragon Quest XI.
 
sphinx said:
I wish Bomberman and the Mana games were still showing up, maybe when stock improves
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Bomberman is already the best selling get episode since the forever
It did way more than OK
There have been zero other not even interesting games but normal third party game for Switch in Japan so far to look at their sales so...
 
zelas said:
Only 3 Switch games in the top 20 and they're all just Nintendo published titles. Can we even begin to argue about the "nintendo audience" not buying third party games when Nintendo is handicapping software sales themselves with the meager amount of hardware making it to market?

The Switch demand hasnt been touching third parties lately even though the consensus seems to be that third parties are trying harder with their Nintendo versions of titles. Even ARMS is feeling the effects of low supply with its numbers dropping so much each week. It really seems like third party efforts are being completely wasted thanks to the current hardware situation. And that certainly isn't encouraging hesitant publishers to jump in sooner than later.
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Remember MC only tracks retail releases (as far as I'm aware). How many third party retail releases have their been recently? We have seen quite a few cases of digital titles selling extremely well on the Switch, most recently with Kamiko.
 
zelas said:
Only 3 Switch games in the top 20 and they're all just Nintendo published titles. Can we even begin to argue about the "nintendo audience" not buying third party games when Nintendo is handicapping software sales themselves with the meager amount of hardware making it to market?

The Switch demand hasnt been touching third parties lately even though the consensus seems to be that third parties are trying harder with their Nintendo versions of titles. Even ARMS is feeling the effects of low supply with its numbers dropping so much each week. It really seems like third party efforts are being completely wasted thanks to the current hardware situation. And that certainly isn't encouraging hesitant publishers to jump in sooner than later.
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The last third-party game that came out in Japan was Seiken Densetsu Collection (aside from Lego City Undercover, but Lego games never sell >10k in Japan), which was released on June 1st (6 weeks ago). Do you expect games to have such legs? Of course there are no third-party Switch games in the list right now. Alongside Splatoon 2, we'll see Fate/Extella for Switch. Let's see how many people will buy that.



PREDICTION LEAGUE DRAGON QUEST XI EDITION

Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Jul 24 to Jul 30):

[PS4] PlayStation 4 Hardware (7 days) - 120.000
[3DS] Nintendo 3DS Hardware (7 days) - 150.000
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 700.000
[3DS] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 1.300.000
 
Bruno MB said:
I don't want to influence with my comment people's predictions and I don't say it will not happen, but 1.5 million first week would be bomba territory for Dragon Quest XI.
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you should probably add " 3DS/PS4 combined" in this post, just in case lol
 
PREDICTION LEAGUE DRAGON QUEST XI EDITION

Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Jul 24 to Jul 30):

[PS4] PlayStation 4 Hardware (7 days) - 80k
[3DS] Nintendo 3DS Hardware (7 days) - 80k
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 760k
[3DS] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 750k
 
zelas said:
Only 3 Switch games in the top 20 and they're all just Nintendo published titles. Can we even begin to argue about the "nintendo audience" not buying third party games when Nintendo is handicapping software sales themselves with the meager amount of hardware making it to market?

The Switch demand hasnt been touching third parties lately even though the consensus seems to be that third parties are trying harder with their Nintendo versions of titles. Even ARMS is feeling the effects of low supply with its numbers dropping so much each week. It really seems like third party efforts are being completely wasted thanks to the current hardware situation. And that certainly isn't encouraging hesitant publishers to jump in sooner than later.
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You do realize that there hasn't been any new third party releases for the Switch recently right? It's no surprise that first party games chart when they are the newest and biggest games.
 
Not particularly great numbers for a Gundam VS, but at least NieR came back from the dead. Probably lost its most recent memories.

It's not the most exciting week, but next few ones should be more interesting. 2DS XL is right on time for DQ11, and that game will hopefully also stave off the PS4-PS3 streams from crossing. It'll also be curious to see how many Switch units have been held back to prepare for the Splatoon 2 launch. It's arguably the biggest game Nintendo has in store for this year in Japan.
 
zelas said:
Only 3 Switch games in the top 20 and they're all just Nintendo published titles. Can we even begin to argue about the "nintendo audience" not buying third party games when Nintendo is handicapping software sales themselves with the meager amount of hardware making it to market?

The Switch demand hasnt been touching third parties lately even though the consensus seems to be that third parties are trying harder with their Nintendo versions of titles. Even ARMS is feeling the effects of low supply with its numbers dropping so much each week. It really seems like third party efforts are being completely wasted thanks to the current hardware situation. And that certainly isn't encouraging hesitant publishers to jump in sooner than later.
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Outside of the three biggest titles launched in 4 months on the Switch, 1-2 Switch is the only exclusive game that got a physical release as far as I'm aware.
Snipperclips is constantly in the top 5 of the eShop and it's likely it will outsell 1-2 Switch. Zelda BotW is likely to be the first Zelda in a long time to pass 1 million sales in Japan and could easily do it before the end of the year. MK8D is keeping pace with MK8 despite MK8 being bundled to try and push WiiU sales. Arms is on it's way to being the most successful fighter in Japan after Smash.

Outside of Minecraft there is no major 3rd party title on the Switch and Minecraft is selling a very well digitally. Bomberman R is the best performing Bomberman in decades and has passed 100K which is around the amount Konami probably shipped for the launch. Outside of Minecraft and Bomberman R there simply isn't notable 3rd party games on the system yet. We all know the situation with MHXX and why it might under-perform - but Nintendo could rescue it by bundling a greater number of Switches for it's launch.

Earthpainting said:
Not particularly great numbers for a Gundam VS
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Considering the reaction online to the game the aggressive monetization and missing features it's definitely getting the type of sales it deserves. We could very well see a 80% drop next week.
 
Bending_Unit_22 said:
That caused it's weekly share to drop but despite that it's weekly share is still higher than the total share so the total share goes up. In numerical form:

Last week share - 74%
This week share - 48%

Last week total share - 14.3%
This week total share - 15.1%

The total share will continue increasing until the weekly share drops below it. ARMS would have had to have sold less than 3,700 or so for that to have happened this week.
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Yeah that seems about right I guess.
 
PREDICTION LEAGUE DRAGON QUEST XI EDITION

Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Jul 24 to Jul 30):

[PS4] PlayStation 4 Hardware (7 days) - 95k
[3DS] Nintendo 3DS Hardware (7 days) - 75k
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 700k
[3DS] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 1M

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Earthpainting said:
Not particularly great numbers for a Gundam VS, but at least NieR came back from the dead. Probably lost its most recent memories.

It's not the most exciting week, but next few ones should be more interesting. 2DS XL is right on time for DQ11, and that game will hopefully also stave off the PS4-PS3 streams from crossing. It'll also be curious to see how many Switch units have been held back to prepare for the Splatoon 2 launch. It's arguably the biggest game Nintendo has in store for this year in Japan.
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There's two more weeks before, though, where PS4 and PS3 will quite likely cross streams. Not that that is really significant when it lasts for at most two weeks.
 
zelas said:
Only 3 Switch games in the top 20 and they're all just Nintendo published titles. Can we even begin to argue about the "nintendo audience" not buying third party games when Nintendo is handicapping software sales themselves with the meager amount of hardware making it to market?

The Switch demand hasnt been touching third parties lately even though the consensus seems to be that third parties are trying harder with their Nintendo versions of titles. Even ARMS is feeling the effects of low supply with its numbers dropping so much each week. It really seems like third party efforts are being completely wasted thanks to the current hardware situation. And that certainly isn't encouraging hesitant publishers to jump in sooner than later.
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Efforts wasted? Where else are they going to put their software on to make money? The PS4 isn't exactly a slam-dunk for 3rd party games over there, just ask Gundam VS.
 
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Road to 1 million

Wii U + Switch = 663 036 units
Switch = 530 012
Wii U = 133 024
Units left to 1 million = 336 964 units
Weeks left = 25 weeks
Needs = 13 478 units/week.
 
L~A said:
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Road to 1 million

Wii U + Switch = 663 036 units
Switch = 530 012
Wii U = 133 024
Units left to 1 million = 336 964 units
Weeks left = 25 weeks
Needs = 13 478 units/week.
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It might not make it this year, but lifetime seems like a guarantee at this point.

Which is crazy for the series.
 
It would be a good point if any third party had actually made an effort on Switch. Bomberman is the highest effort third party release and they've been rewarded for it.
 
zelas said:
Only 3 Switch games in the top 20 and they're all just Nintendo published titles. Can we even begin to argue about the "nintendo audience" not buying third party games when Nintendo is handicapping software sales themselves with the meager amount of hardware making it to market?

The Switch demand hasnt been touching third parties lately even though the consensus seems to be that third parties are trying harder with their Nintendo versions of titles. Even ARMS is feeling the effects of low supply with its numbers dropping so much each week. It really seems like third party efforts are being completely wasted thanks to the current hardware situation. And that certainly isn't encouraging hesitant publishers to jump in sooner than later.
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I am not sure what you are trying to argue here. Are you saying that Bomberman and Seiken Densetu Collection would have sold more on PS4?
 
Switch 3rd Party can not be determined yet so far but if someone wants perspective here are the "major" 3rd party games so far

Bomberman:
Highest selling Bomberman game in decades and is over 100k lifetime. Game sold half a million in a month.

Disgea 5C:
Despite charting low NIS said it sold around 20k and the West had upwards of 110k preorders before release

Minecraft:
No physical release yet due to ultimate edition but it has been charting at the top of the chart since release and will for a long time.

SF2:
For a port of a 25 year old game at $40 it did pretty well. Over 20k in Japan without bomba bins should help make it profitable. Also did well in places like France and Spain.

These games should not be used to determine how all third party are doing but have all done well enough.
 
Oregano said:
It would be a good point if any third party had actually made an effort on Switch. Bomberman is the highest effort third party release and they've been rewarded for it.
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On this note, what is actually the first large Japanese third party Switch game for Japan?
 
PREDICTION LEAGUE DRAGON QUEST XI EDITION

Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Jul 24 to Jul 30):

[PS4] PlayStation 4 Hardware (7 days) - 64.340k
[3DS] Nintendo 3DS Hardware (7 days) - 75.357k
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 756.435k
[3DS] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 1.3M
 
Skullwaker said:
It might not make it this year, but lifetime seems like a guarantee at this point.

Which is crazy for the series.
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Personally if this is how summer is shaking out I think it is more likely to make it this year than not. Switch stock should improve enough to push it there.
 
Skullwaker said:
It might not make it this year, but lifetime seems like a guarantee at this point.

Which is crazy for the series.
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Yup. Considering it's trending around 8k when the shipments are only 26k, it can get very close to 1 million during this calendar year, though, and reaching 900k should be doable with the holidays and other increased shipments. Great performance for BOTW, and worldwide we will likely see a similarly impressive result for the game (I still think it will surpass 10 million WW LTD, Duckroll).
 
To put Gundam Versus sales in comparison to previously launched titles in the series with their week 1 sales:

Extreme VS (PS3): ~350k
Extreme VS Full Boost (PS3): ~270k
Extreme VS Force (Vita): ~70k
 
Nirolak said:
On this note, what is actually the first large third party Switch game for Japan?
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Minecraft is the only leggy title released so far and thats not going to chart in MC / Famitsu until it gets a retail release.
And I'm fairly confident in saying when it gets that retail release its going to make up for any absence on charts today by being on those charts for years to come.
 
Tobidase Dôbutsu no Mori's attach rate and longevity really are out of this world...

Bruno MB said:
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[PS4] PlayStation 4 Hardware (7 days) - 100k
[3DS] Nintendo 3DS Hardware (7 days) - 65k
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 900k
[3DS] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 850k
 
Would be really surprised if 3DS ends up selling more than PS4. Softwarewise it might be 60,55/40,45 in favour for the 3DS.

Bruno MB said:
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[PS4] PlayStation 4 Hardware (7 days) - 130k
[3DS] Nintendo 3DS Hardware (7 days) - 105k
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 820k
[3DS] Dragon Quest XI (2 days) - 1050k
 
Zedark said:
Yup. Considering it's trending around 8k when the shipments are only 26k, it can even get close to 1 million during this calendar year, reaching 900k should be doable with the holidays and other increased shipments. Great performance for BOTW, and worldwide we will likely see a similarly impressive result for the game (I still think it will surpass 10 million WW LTD, Duckroll).
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10m WW LTD absolutely seems like a possibility now. While the series has never quite reached that feat before, it's been close with TP. BotW has been surrounded by so much buzz and was received so well that I think it'll outperform many people's expectations in terms of lifetime sales.

Of course, this also depends on what the Switch ends up selling lifetime. But Ocarina of Time managed to sell a good 7.6m on the 33m install base of the N64, so there's no telling how much the Switch needs to sell.
 
Oregano said:
Released or announced?

Possibly Minecraft for both.

If not Minecraft it's a toss up between Taiko and DQXI depending of what they actually end up being.
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LordRaptor said:
Minecraft is the only leggy title released so far and thats not going to chart in MC / Famitsu until it gets a retail release.
And I'm fairly confident in saying when it gets that retail release its going to make up for any absence on charts today by being on those charts for years to come.
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Sorry, I probably should have clarified I meant Japanese third party games.

So after Taiko or DQXI (which I'm guessing might be holiday 2017, at least for Taiko?), are there any titles that are considered larger games announced?
 
zelas said:
Only 3 Switch games in the top 20 and they're all just Nintendo published titles. Can we even begin to argue about the "nintendo audience" not buying third party games when Nintendo is handicapping software sales themselves with the meager amount of hardware making it to market?
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Lol no. There has to be third party games to be handicapped in the first place.

The Switch demand hasnt been touching third parties lately even though the consensus seems to be that third parties are trying harder with their Nintendo versions of titles. Even ARMS is feeling the effects of low supply with its numbers dropping so much each week. It really seems like third party efforts are being completely wasted thanks to the current hardware situation. And that certainly isn't encouraging hesitant publishers to jump in sooner than later.
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What third party efforts? Mana rom? SF2 port?
 
Nirolak said:
On this note, what is actually the first large Japanese third party Switch game for Japan?
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Outside of ports, will Night of Azure 2 count?

I currently don't see any other new third party Switch title that releases simultaneously with other consoles. I might be missing things here though,
 
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