Man-is-Obsolete
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Is that this week? What's the reviews and impressions been like?
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Media Create Sales: Week 30, 2013 (Jul 22 - Jul 28)
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Is that this week? What's the reviews and impressions been like?
First week (Garaph):
Superstar Saga : 63,839
Partners in Time : 133,229
Bowser's Inside Story : 220,055
That sounds awfully optimistic to me.
You mean release cross games like devs are doing with Vita/PS3? But PS4 is a magnitude more powerful than what PS3 is so devs would either need to gimp the Vita game or PS4 game just to port it over as smooth as possible
Law Abiding Stranger
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Still waiting for impressions but that 30 minutes dungeon crawling video burned a lot of people.
It got 30/40 in Famitsu.
Oh and yes August 1st is the release date.
ThatStupidLion
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this doesnt include digi sales right? if so don't forget them on top of this for dragons crown ( esp vita)
I don't think PS4 titles will be as easy as PS3 titles to port to the Vita. But that won't really be an issue in Japan.
Canis lupus
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Have the feeling its gonna sell surprisingly well, Vita found its audience with these AA games, Toukiden and DC did better than we expected, the game also looks like Persona so anything is possible.
airmangataosenai
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I think Lego's performance is actually probably the best argument I've seen for the Wii U potentially having some sort of recovery as it's the first real sign of life the system's seen. Game came out of nowhere and did much much better than expected.
LOL @ Dragon's Crown ruining everyone's predictions.
LOL @ Dragon's Crown ruining everyone's predictions.
1.21Gigawatts
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I haven't played those, but I heard they were both pretty bad, especially compared to their homeconsole siblings.
I think good games and a pricecut could really do something for the Vita.
Well I think that's the tricky part- whe. PS3 development does dry up, will 3rd parties be willing to make Vita exclusives?
I'd be just ok with being right The Wonderful 101 will be enough to prevent Wii U from going under 5k, as you conceive.
Devilgunman
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Wow, DC sold better than every version of Muramasa combined. Amazing.
Well, it will eventually, but at that point the Vita either has things on its own or is probably fading into total irrelevance.
We still have to double check the western ability to keep current/previous gen level of success. We can already judge Japan because, being primarly a portable oriented territory, and being 3ds and vita on the market since 2/3 years, we can say that this gen will not keep in line with the previous. Let's wait for the home console oriented western market once PS4 and Xboe will be released, to understand the matter
Btw, this has little to do with L5 hate/gloom/doom comments I usually see in MC threads, honestly. otherwise as said, close the topics because Japan is fuc*ed, right?
If their sales are disappointing because they are not at the same level of the incredible IE and Layton DS episodes, and if this is true for almost every other game and company, don't know what to say in the MC threads
I really doubt that among LBEX re-releases, the Layton (main and crossover) disappointing but still decent sales, the IE still solid sales, and the sales of their new IP like Yokai and Fantasy Life we should see Level5 as one of the troublesome softco in Japan
Always considering probable costs/efforts/development times/engine/assets and so on...considering that they develop middle/low budget games for 3DS (financial judgment, not quality-wise, where you think they are horrible, and I think some of them are at least interesting) and not AAA high budget HD 1080p 60fps blockbuster 1000000000000 $ budget games for PS4
IncandescentPrecept
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Muramasa on the Vita has passed the 100K mark.
pieatorium
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as long as the game isn't a AAA 3d game it won't be much different to now, those games are already mostly out of the reach of vita's capabilities.
Dragon's Crown is 2-D brawler priced at 8,000 yen, and still sold well. That's quite an achievement you know.
Good job vanillawareware
test_account
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I'm not sure if Vanillaware gets anything from this sales, or if they only get payed the salary for developing the game. But for Atlus it should be quite profitable if they only spent around 1 million dollars on Dragon's Crown.
Yeah, sales from overseas will also increase the total profit indeed
I didnt account for the digital sales either in my previous post (since we dont know how many copy it sold as digital download), but that would also bring in some extra cash there.Chill Dude
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Get In! Yes! Damn right Ace Attorney 5 goes straight in at number 1 could not be happier to see this even if I know it's a massive franchise in Japan it's always nice to see .
.IncandescentPrecept
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I'm not talking about HW sales but in terms of games coming to the platform. It's clear that Vita owners buy a lot of games so Japanese developers will be more willing to bring games to the systems.
Sammy Samusu
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It had a poor debut and massive shipment for sure, but can we please look at the overall picture? M&L games usually sell around 400k. BIS is the only game to sell 700k.
I'm expecting crazy good legs, and I really hope it sells more than Apollo, though it will be a difficult task (DS had tons of female and casual gamers).
DC1
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Nooo...
Please tell me that you don't believe what you heard!
I haven't heard anything.
This is awesome
Well it depends on the game honestly. If vita owners where really buying lots of games then they would at least appear on the Top 50 but right now no Vita game has stayed there
Zekra Dezivad
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best selling Vanillaware title ever?
Well when will the PS3 stop getting supported? My guess is 2015 is when it will begin to dry up. I don't think non-AAA Japanese 3rd-parties will make the switch to the PS4 till 2015.
And software is selling on the Vita. I imagine they would release games for it. How does 2014 look though? I guess it may be a bit early, but that would be an indicator of things to come and show that 2013 isn't an off year of good support.
Then yes and no. No because there is the 3DS and the PS3 (and somewhat the PSP). Yes because it is easy to port PS3 and PSP games to the Vita.
Chill Dude
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Quick question and sorry if this has been covered before but these figures don't include digital sales do they like the Nintendo eShop?
Cheers
Cheers
test_account
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What matters is how much each individual game perform (it goes for every game for every platform). It doesnt really matter how long it stays in the Top 50.
Why is 70/90k good for DC on Vita but bad for W101 on WiiU?
You jest, but I bet this will perform pretty well. There are a lot of Persona fans that are looking for a fix.
Seriously?
michaelius
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LOL what ?
Everything except MH and Nintendo evergreens dissapears from top 50 after few weeks in Japan.
pieatorium
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outside of sequels to the games that have already done well it will remain a good question to ask for awhile i think.
The whole project budget for DC was little over 100mil yen. I'm guessing W101 can't be made with that...
Law Abiding Stranger
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Dragon's Crown was cross release on PS3/Vita and PS3 had much bigger user base, yet the split isn't that big.
Besides W101 won't do 70-90k during it's first week, zero chance.
Sammy Samusu
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Canis lupus
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Saving for next week.
Very different expectations and budgets.
101 is as close to a AAA exclusive release as Wii U gets. Dragon's Crown is by an incredibly niche developer and probably cost (Relatively) nothing to make.
Hm. I'm just thinking aloud, but aren't the smaller companies the ones that are most likely to remain on the PS3 longer? Aren't those also the ones who are more likely to sell the type of niche products that have proven successful on the Vita?
Quick question and sorry if this has been covered before but these figures don't include digital sales do they like the Nintendo eShop?
Cheers
If there's a download card, they'll appear in Famitsu (I think?). Otherwise no. It also becomes somewhat silly to use in debate since most digital numbers are unknown.
HassanJamal
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Good to see vita getting a bump despite getting a multiplatform title. Kinda expected a bump for the PS3 as well seeing as there are 2 new titles. Oversaturation perhaps? Also, both versions cost the same in Japan? Odd move there.
Well Bamco games have long legs lol ;P
Vita 2014:
-Freedom Wars
-Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F 2
-Disgaea 4: Return
-The Legend of Heroes: Ao no Kiseki Evolution
-Sega's 575 Music Game
I'm unsure when the Jump fighting game is releasing.
I may be missing some things, but I think that's what is announced currently.
That said, yes, it isn't an immediate problem, but it should still be one within the Vita's lifetime.
Project J is 2013 or 2014?
Yeah, I'm not sure. It strikes me as something you would want to put out for the holidays.
Law Abiding Stranger
Banned
He probably isn't that wrong.
It's a game by Acquire and ZeroDiv so I suspect that shipment might be pretty small.
Still I am interested in seeing how it will do.
Yes, it sounds like that for me too.