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Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2012 (Sep 03 - Sep 09)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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Evolution_1ne
Banned
oh for fucks sake these threads are hilariously depressing
Having better fundamentals is considered moneyhatting now?
But seriously, yes, they did help out with FF7's localization and massive ad blitz and it paid off big time.
metalslimer
Member
Is this a running joke?
Dehumanizer
Member
The sad thing is that Vita japanese sales are still better than USA sales, ouch
electroplankton
Banned
It's not that Sony moneyhatted third parties... It worked to have their support by creating better development conditions, offering lower royalties than Nintendo, and most importantly, having the CD-Rom as a support. It was a mix of factors.
To be fair to Vita's US sales they didn't get a single new game in the past two reporting periods, at least Japan got games during that stretch!
Ys may or may not be a blip (the limited edition is #45 on Amazon, nowhere to be found on comg), LBP is going to do absolutely nothing.
metalslimer
Member
Well i imagine september just has to be better with that madden bundle and little big planet. If these sales are still better than jeez....
Fundamentals weren't part of the discussion. There was money involved at the time. This was at a time when Nintendo was pretty shitty towards third parties so it's understandable how things went out. Pretty sure Sony helped bail Square out after The Spirits Within bomba fiasco too.
metalslimer
Member
What are you even talking about. Royalty fees and expensive carts were a huge part of the equation. There was certainly money involved for some things like resident evil but you are kidding yourself to think nintendo wasnt the primary factor involved
well tokyo game show is going to be pretty interesting.
if we dont see any solid announcements from sony for psv,i dont what else can we wait for..
psv is lagging behind and both the price and the games are the reason.
nintendo learned(*) their lesson,lets see if sony learned anything...
(assuming they release wii u for a reasonable price,during these hard economic days)
if we dont see any solid announcements from sony for psv,i dont what else can we wait for..
psv is lagging behind and both the price and the games are the reason.
nintendo learned(*) their lesson,lets see if sony learned anything...
(assuming they release wii u for a reasonable price,during these hard economic days)
metalslimer
Member
Oh sorry i misunderstood your opening sentence
Nope, the Miku bump came at a good time. The release schedule over the next month looks pretty good, so I think Vita will be able to stay ahead. November and December seem barren though.
test_account
XP-39C²
Other have already asked, but i'd also like source/proof for this.
But even if it was true for these 4 games, saying that Sony is only successful because they moneyhatted everything is a kinda weird statement in my opinion.
Compared to what? The US seems to be in much worse shape, what with the #1 spot over a 1-month period at less than 300K sales combined over several platforms. IMO a lot of people spoke way too soon when they started talking about how Japan is no longer a significant territory when considering sales a few years back.
KillerMan91
Member
It really looks like that last gen was the peak of Japanese market. 3DS is failing to succeed DS in sales, Vita completely bombing compared to PSP and home console market pretty much dead. Well Wii U and PS4 are yet to launch but when handhelds are majorly down compared to last gen why would home console sales suddenly rise again... I guess demographic changes in Japan are starting affect gaming market.
test_account
XP-39C²
No one knows for sure. Guesses are from that Capcom decided to go for 3DS because it is cheaper to develope for it (no need to make "HD" textures etc.) to that Nintendo moneyhatted it. My guess is that there is a combination between these two things. Capcom does expand the MH brand, but the main Monster Hunter games have been strong enough to be on one platform only.
Hellraider
Member
electroplankton
Banned
Also: 3DS was the successor of the best selling console of all time in Japan by a large margin, so it would have really made sense developing from that, no matter what.
UncleSporky
Member
A statement best made at a time when they've both been through the same number of holiday seasons.
This isn't a "wait for Christmas to save the 3DS" post, either. They're reasonably close and this is the one major difference that separates the two at this point. I don't necessarily expect it to do better than the DS, but it's possible.
Actually I don't think anyone expected the 3DS or WiiU to match their previous sales. I don't think that points toward the death of gaming or anything, they just both set ridiculously high bars.
frankie_baby
Member
Jaded Alyx
Member
Never forget, I see :lol
Jaded Alyx
Member
Moor-Angol
Banned
fixed
slaughterking
Member
Yen only, though.
When multi-platform Soul Calibur II sells best on GameCube in the U.S. and then Soul Calibur III is a PS2 exclusive, then you know something happened behind the scenes.
test_account
XP-39C²
Yep, that too =)
I think maybe the late release could also have something to do with it (late 2005 for Soul Calibur 3). The difference between the Gamecube and PS2 version wasnt exactly huge in the US. Any sales numbers for Europe?
frankie_baby
Member
They money hatted tomb raider in the ps1 days, tomb raider 64 was cancelled as a result
Sammy Samusu
Member
I just noticed.
YTD
3DSLL - 526.563
PSV - 519.554
YTD
3DSLL - 526.563
PSV - 519.554
Devilgunman
Member
I don't think anything Sony's planing for TGS (if there's any) will change Vita fate for this holiday season. If games are announced at TGS, the earliest they will be shipped is next year.
test_account
XP-39C²
I'm not sure that Tomb Raider was moneyhat. It was afterall released on Saturn first, and the PC release came at the same date as the PS1 version.
frankie_baby
Member
The tomb raider moneyhat came after the first one was released (on ps1 and Saturn)and was successful the n64 version was going to be a late port, as for the PC release it was money hatted as a PlayStation console exclusive, PC didn't matter
test_account
XP-39C²
Sorry, i thought you ment the first game. There was a deal being made later on, that is true. Tomb Raider 2 is the best selling Tomb Raider game if i'm not mistaken, so it was a great business move.
Delusibeta
Banned
Isn't the "Diva f PS3 version" just DLC for the PS3 version of the last PSP game?
Nintendo's moneyhatted the franchise since Tri, more or less. That and I'd wager they can get away with recycling the PSP engine on the 3DS.
bluelightningduo
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chertipros
Member
Holy crap......