http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/product/stock/100000001001772491/index.html
MH4 sold out at every Yodobashi store.
Wow. It might be at 3 million by the time Pokemon hits.
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Media Create Sales: Week 38, 2013 (Sep 16 - Sep 22)
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Wow. It might be at 3 million by the time Pokemon hits.
MasterSheen
Member
I would be interested in how they sold week to week, especially around the time they started to blow up.
Edit: lol, Sammy missed all the fun.
metalslimer
Member
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,950,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 315k
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 170k
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 80k
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 78k
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 695k
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 49k
My predictions for last month will be so bad.
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 315k
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 170k
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 80k
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 78k
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 695k
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 49k
My predictions for last month will be so bad.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=77821637#post77821637
Go find your post and start weeping lol.
EDIT: MH4 already surpassed my prediction lol.
Go find your post and start weeping lol.
EDIT: MH4 already surpassed my prediction lol.
Yeah I've predicted 100k+ for WW HD and I was oh so wrong. Forgot console Zelda lost its aura in Japan. Add that to the fact that Wii U software sales are pretty catastrophic except for a rare few titles.
MH4 on the other hand seems to have done better than what most people predicted.
I think what you're seeing here is actually a great example of what happens when you have a mega franchise.
Let's take Monster Hunter for example.
Monster Hunter is a huge series, and Capcom would like to keep experiencing growth. The main two ways to do this are:
1.) Reach more people.
2.) Have more products.
However, when doing these options, they want to satisfy the following conditions:
1.) The flagship product should never be hurt.
2.) A product that goes on a platform has to make sense for that platform. For example, playing a complicated to control third person action game on a touch screen is going to be very difficult.
3.) They don't want to develop products that will have bad margins. In the vast majority of cases, 5 products that sell 50,000 copies each is way worse than 1 product which sells 200,000 copies.
So, Capcom's solution to this was the following:
1.) Monster Hunter 4 on 3DS. Since this game is a retail title revolves around local co-op, it was critical to put it on the best selling handheld that could run it and then make sure the entire userbase could play together whenever they met someone else with the game.
2.) Monster Hunter Frontier G on PC/360/PS3/Vita/WiiU. People who play core games on dedicated game devices want a Monster Hunter experience that is as close to mainline Monster Hunter as possible, but Capcom doesn't want anyone who wants the local multiplayer experience to buy anything but Monster Hunter 4. As such, in Japan they offer anyone on these platforms the possibility to play Monster Hunter with others online, and ask for a subscription fee in order to extract extra revenue.
3.) Monster Hunter Smart on iOS/Android. Obviously Monster Hunter in its regular form is not going to work on a phone, and it's hard to reach the full extent of the phone audience while charging money up front. As such, they made a Monster Hunter game redesigned to work with phones while still offering a similar-ish experience and gave it an f2p business model.
4.) Three other Monster Hunter iOS/Android games. These are for people who like the franchise, but when on a phone are looking for something a bit different in the same universe. As such, they're popular phone genres (I think they're like card games and town building titles) with a Monster Hunter skin. Since they're so cheap to make, Capcom is okay with making a lot of products here.
5.) Monster Hunter's F2P MMO for China on PC. This is a Monster Hunter game built by a local company to reach out to the vast Chinese audience in a way directly targeted at them with a business model they would find more palatable. Since there are so many gamers in China, Capcom is willing to license out their game for another product that may seem decidedly similar to Monster Hunter Frontier G.
With Puzzle & Dragon, adding 13 million 3DS owners to their potential audience isn't going to do much relative to the size of audience they already have, and when people are playing handheld games, they may often be playing for 30-60+ minutes, so the stamina bar isn't going to be workable. As such, the best way to extract more revenue is to offer a product that fits the current nature of the market (a retail title) and sell a bunch of copies of that to both new audiences and potentially people who also play the phone game already.
For most franchises though, especially in Japan, approaching this level of SKUs doesn't make sense, as they don't have nearly enough pull to do so. For example, I don't think many people are frothing at the mouth to play Monster Tact on their 3DS, and thus no one is going to bother making a 3DS version of it, even though Silicon is usually a dedicated device developer.
In the case of smaller franchises, people do often still want to increase their revenue however. Since developing another product is hard as a smaller developer, it often makes the most sense to either develop a very small additional title (like a social card game for phones), or to go multiplatform with the same title you have already (like all the people going PS3/Vita, PS3/PS4, 3DS/Vita, etc).
Now, this discussion actually ties directly into what I think this is:
Yuji Horii and a DQX big wig showing up to unveil a phone game states that they see a large potential audience for Dragon Quest on phones and have decided to go after it. There are four main possibilities of what they could be doing.
1.) Hype their existing types of low effort phone games more.
2.) Make higher effort phone games in hopes of getting a larger audience.
3.) Make Dragon Quest XI exclusively for phones.
4.) Make Dragon Quest XI and have phones as one of multiple platform choices.
Historically speaking, we know that Horii generally only shows up for high effort projects, and that for recent entries, Square Enix releases a lot of smaller Dragon Quest products on a platform before releasing a mainline entry.
So far Square Enix has been really clearly telegraphing the 3DS as the platform for Dragon Quest XI via the number of DQ games on 3DS, and Horii is showing up at this event, so it seems very unlikely that 1 or 3 are correct.
Given that there hasn't been much teasing for this event however, it seems unlikely that it's 4 either, even if 4 comes to pass.
This would suggest option 2, and that Square Enix is going to start releasing higher effort DQ games on phones. Now, historically speaking this would suggest an eventually result of 3, but given that the phone market isn't an obvious choice for mainline DQ yet, and that Square Enix has been talking about how multiplatform makes sense for DQ, to me it's more likely that we would see either DQXI or DQXII eventually show up on phones in a multiplatform sense than an exclusive sense if we ever see the franchise head there. Because of the above however, I don't expect that they would be announcing such a thing on the 30th without first releasing a bevy of DQ phone games first in order to test and prepare the market.
I agree Nirolak. I expect it is option 2, and as this generation gets older we should start to see more option 4s being announced. However I do think that the MH approach is currently the best route for many franchises, unfortunately we are seeing "reduced" entries as part of the main series for some franchise i.e. BF6.
Though BF6 may end up profitable for Capcom, I do think it will diminish the overall franchise. If they had created two separate entries, the mobile version could have been advertisement for a console sequel and vise verse.
Though BF6 may end up profitable for Capcom, I do think it will diminish the overall franchise. If they had created two separate entries, the mobile version could have been advertisement for a console sequel and vise verse.
Right, my problem with BF6 is less the platform and more what the product seems to be.
duckroll once said something to me that I feel holds very true: "A franchise is only as useful as what people like about it."
If Breath of Fire 6 sounded like a high effort campaign focused game in the style of previous entries, at that point they're simply exploring a new platform and adding in multiplayer functionality to what you would otherwise expect. And if doing this was too risky on its own, they could amortize the risk the same way Level 5 did with Wonderflick by releasing it on a bunch of platforms at once while telegraphing that the phone game is the lead platform, but that this is still a game targeted at traditional audiences.
If this is instead some kind of touch MMO that only vaguely resembles the series, then this isn't offering the Breath of Fire fanbase the game they want, and is simply appealing to their nostalgia of the series in hopes of squeezing out a few bucks. In the process, as you said, they just end up killing the nostalgia that actually existed for a reason.
shinra-bansho
Member
No 2 does seem like the most likely.
I just thought it an amusing twist on Mpl's question, where rather than PazuDora on 3DS being successful leading to lots of mobile game publishers going to dedicated game platforms the reality of the market means we're probably going to be seeing far more of the reverse.
It's actually quite amazing; I mean, a few years ago would anyone have even really considered 3 or 4 remotely plausible outcomes for one of Squenix's biggest franchises?
I just thought it an amusing twist on Mpl's question, where rather than PazuDora on 3DS being successful leading to lots of mobile game publishers going to dedicated game platforms the reality of the market means we're probably going to be seeing far more of the reverse.
It's actually quite amazing; I mean, a few years ago would anyone have even really considered 3 or 4 remotely plausible outcomes for one of Squenix's biggest franchises?
Predictions
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.567.890
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 345.678
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 210.987
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 98.765
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 123.456
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 678.901
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 67.890
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.567.890
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 345.678
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 210.987
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 98.765
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 123.456
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 678.901
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 67.890
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 3000000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 250000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 150000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 50000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 100000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 700000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 40000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 250000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 150000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 50000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 100000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 700000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 40000
I'm currently on holiday in Beijing, China and walked into an import game shop near the Drum/Bell Towers. They had two Monster Hunter 4 3DS bundles available - I guess it's not completely sold out. 
*Other news, the 3DS and PS Vita had a shelf each - but the 360 dominated with a whole cabinet of 6-8 shelves!
*Other news, the 3DS and PS Vita had a shelf each - but the 360 dominated with a whole cabinet of 6-8 shelves!
Glass Rebel
Member
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.700.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 290.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 180.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 95.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 110.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 750.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 70.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 290.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 180.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 95.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 110.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 750.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 70.000
michaelius
Banned
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2800000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 270000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 150000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 120000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 60000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 650000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 55000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 270000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 150000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 120000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 60000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 650000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 55000
Hellraider
Member
Predictions
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.700.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 390.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 225.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 110.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 125.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 710.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 80.000
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.700.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 390.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 225.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 110.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 125.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 710.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 80.000
Prediction League October, 2013
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,000,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 150,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 100,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 50,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 50,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 500,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 40,000
I'm just gonna lowball everything cuz I'm cool.
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,000,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 150,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 100,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 50,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 50,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 500,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 40,000
I'm just gonna lowball everything cuz I'm cool.
My prediction:
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,650,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 185,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 139,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 23,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 22,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 565,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 102,000
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,650,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 185,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 139,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 23,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 22,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 565,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 102,000
For MH4 I was expecting something like 3,5m LTD for full priced version but after first weeks I think I'll rise that number to 4m. Most of its fanbase has moved to 3DS in the end, 3G helped a lot.
Well, certainly this is by far the biggest reason for the the current emotions towards BoF6: it's just a confusing product that appeals to no one, and it even procure a big damage to the brand's legacy as well.
And I largely agree with most of your points in your response to my question, as well.
Wow, Sammy's finally back XD
Hellraider
Member
Which begs the question.Does MH4 exceding our expectations mean that the fanbase has moved or that the fanbase has been expanded?Of course we will have to wait until after the next 3DS installment.
michaelius
Banned
What happened to Marvelous ? They didn't show any new games at TGS and apart from 1 or 2 titles they have released everything annouced earlier.
I think it's safe to assume that the fanbase will only expand from here on out.
Kids that get into Pokemon or Animal Crossing now likely have a greater chance of picking up a Monster Hunter game when they're older.
They are still doing work for hire stuff at the moment but they have been quiet in regards to their publishing.
Glass Rebel
Member
Probably both. I'm sure a lot of psp owners have bought the 3ds for 3g and MH4, and it stands to reason that many Nintendo fans who did not own a psp last gen bought MH4 this time around.
Bruno MB
Member
Prediction League October, 2013
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 30 to Oct 27):
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.815.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 325.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 195.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 130.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 115.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 720.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 100.000
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 30 to Oct 27):
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.815.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 325.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 195.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 130.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 115.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 720.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 100.000
I think Capcom's actually trying to position Gaist Crusher as the kid-friendly MH.
Well considering only the responses to MH from the Nintendo fans here on GAF, it might as well be a Nintendo franchise at this stage so the overalap in audiences seems to certainly be there.
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2850K
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 350k
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 185k
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 85k
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 100k
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 750k
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 65k
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 350k
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 185k
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 85k
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 100k
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 750k
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 65k
Sammy Samusu
Member
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Prediction League October, 2013
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,900,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 220,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 160,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 130,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 90,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 500,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 80,000
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,900,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 220,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 160,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 130,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 90,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 500,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 80,000
Prediction League October, 2013
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.550.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 275.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 145.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 97.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 66.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 760.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 78.000
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.550.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 275.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 145.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 97.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 66.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 760.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 78.000
Prediction League October, 2013
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.790.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 238.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 149.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 112.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 81.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 623.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 67.000
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.790.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 238.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 149.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 112.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 81.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 623.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 67.000
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 3,000,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 295,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 123,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 98,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 38,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 590,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 51,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 295,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 123,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 98,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 38,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 590,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 51,000
Using data from Media Create (weekly top 20 + yearly top 500/1000):
3rd party software sales:
3DS: ~18,7m
Wii: ~17,8m
Top 20 Wii + 3DS 3rd party titles:
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom) {2013-09-14} - 1,715,060 / 2,188,799
[3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Capcom) {2011-12-10} - 521,959 / 1,587,556
[3DS] Dragon Quest VII: Eden no Senshitachi (Square Enix) {2013-02-07} - 827,922 / 1,191,939
[WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) {2009-08-01} - 520,138 / 1,055,243
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (Square Enix) {2012-05-31} - 513,183 / 919,870
[WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii (Bandai Namco) {2008-12-11} - 105,941 / 617,658
[WII] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online (Square Enix) {2012-08-02} - 367,148 / 609,783
[WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Chou Goukaban (Bandai Namco) {2012-11-29} - 115,955 / 560,681
[WII] Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Square Enix) {2007-07-12} - 305,254 / 521,268
[3DS] Run For Money Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-tachi kara Nigekire! (Bandai Namco) {2012-07-05} - 29,630 / 496,786
[3DS] Taiko Drum Master: Chibi Dragon to Fushigina Orb (Bandai Namco) {2012-07-12} - 65,462 / 495,981
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine / Dark (Level 5) {2011-12-15} - 135,259 / 445,652
[WII] Dragon Quest 25th Anniversary: Famicom & Super Famicom Dragon Quest I-II-III (Square Enix) {2011-09-15} - 263,398 / 428,454
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Chrono Stone Neppuu / Raimei (Level 5) {2012-12-13} - 168,179 / 428,376
[3DS] Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask (Level 5) {2011-02-26} - 119,591 / 409,633
[WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Do Don to 2-Daime! (Bandai Namco) {2009-11-19} - 28,282 / 394,776
[WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Ketteiban (Bandai Namco) {2011-11-23} - 32,098 / 343,876
[3DS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies (Capcom) {2013-07-25} - 250,216 / 339,000
[3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix) {2012-03-29} - 213,579 / 338,812
[3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate [Best Price!] (Capcom) {2012-11-15} - 13,236 / 331,366
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According to (whomever answers e-mail at) the Capcom IR contacts, the 2 million shipment for MH4 did not include download copies and their "Platinum Titles" page also does not include downloads.
3rd party software sales:
3DS: ~18,7m
Wii: ~17,8m
Top 20 Wii + 3DS 3rd party titles:
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom) {2013-09-14} - 1,715,060 / 2,188,799
[3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Capcom) {2011-12-10} - 521,959 / 1,587,556
[3DS] Dragon Quest VII: Eden no Senshitachi (Square Enix) {2013-02-07} - 827,922 / 1,191,939
[WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) {2009-08-01} - 520,138 / 1,055,243
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (Square Enix) {2012-05-31} - 513,183 / 919,870
[WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii (Bandai Namco) {2008-12-11} - 105,941 / 617,658
[WII] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online (Square Enix) {2012-08-02} - 367,148 / 609,783
[WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Chou Goukaban (Bandai Namco) {2012-11-29} - 115,955 / 560,681
[WII] Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Square Enix) {2007-07-12} - 305,254 / 521,268
[3DS] Run For Money Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-tachi kara Nigekire! (Bandai Namco) {2012-07-05} - 29,630 / 496,786
[3DS] Taiko Drum Master: Chibi Dragon to Fushigina Orb (Bandai Namco) {2012-07-12} - 65,462 / 495,981
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine / Dark (Level 5) {2011-12-15} - 135,259 / 445,652
[WII] Dragon Quest 25th Anniversary: Famicom & Super Famicom Dragon Quest I-II-III (Square Enix) {2011-09-15} - 263,398 / 428,454
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Chrono Stone Neppuu / Raimei (Level 5) {2012-12-13} - 168,179 / 428,376
[3DS] Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask (Level 5) {2011-02-26} - 119,591 / 409,633
[WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Do Don to 2-Daime! (Bandai Namco) {2009-11-19} - 28,282 / 394,776
[WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Ketteiban (Bandai Namco) {2011-11-23} - 32,098 / 343,876
[3DS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies (Capcom) {2013-07-25} - 250,216 / 339,000
[3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix) {2012-03-29} - 213,579 / 338,812
[3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate [Best Price!] (Capcom) {2012-11-15} - 13,236 / 331,366
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According to (whomever answers e-mail at) the Capcom IR contacts, the 2 million shipment for MH4 did not include download copies and their "Platinum Titles" page also does not include downloads.
Predictions
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.980.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 320.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) -158.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 89.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 145.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) -692.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 61.000
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.980.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 320.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) -158.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 89.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 145.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) -692.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 61.000
Hadn't considered multiplatform. Has there ever been a point in the where there were two popular platforms that could support similarly-powered games? Perhaps the SNES and TG-16? I don't think it could be called true recently (DQ9 would look terrible on the PSP).
What I'm wondering is how valuable the localization deal for VI and IX has been for Square Enix. If XI goes 3DS/mobile they may not be able to get such a deal, but I don't think most of the games sell over here anyhow.
metalslimer
Member
I feel like I may be lowballing VIta a bit. Is there anything big actually releasing besides the new model? Especially since it seems that when 3DS does insanely well it hurts Vita and Pokemon will suck a good bit of life out of the rest of the industry next month. Actually now that I think about it, the 3DS decline this year could probably be attributed to Vita doing better.
DQ11 being multiplat on phones could make sense, but I doubt highly that it would be announced for mobile first where it certainly wouldn't make the majority of the money, I feel like a 3DS release-make tons of cash-phone announcement/releases makes more sense.
DQ11 being multiplat on phones could make sense, but I doubt highly that it would be announced for mobile first where it certainly wouldn't make the majority of the money, I feel like a 3DS release-make tons of cash-phone announcement/releases makes more sense.
[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2.800.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 280.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 160.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 70.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 90.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 600.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 60.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 280.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 160.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 70.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 90.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 600.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 60.000
Sammy Samusu
Member
So we probably won't have a 3M press release tomorrow, I was hoping for one including digital copies.
Well, while the 360 wasn't popular in Japan, it did get tons of PS3 multiplats due to the West.
Square Enix was noting one of the reasons they keep doing iOS FF games is due to worldwide performance as well, but that is probably a much smaller concern for DQ.
I think we might see a hint of this if iOS Theatrhythm 2 mysteriously shows up at the same time Theatrhythm goes West, given it didn't do so hot in the West on 3DS last time.
metalslimer
Member
There's no way it's near 3 million even with digital with the stock issues unless there was a large new shipment recently.
http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/product/stock/100000001001772491/index.html
MH4 sold out at every Yodobashi store.
Oh, fuck. He's back.
Welcome back Sammy
Capcom...why you so weird?
GregLombardi
Member
Maybe this isn't the best place to ask this -- but I was under the impression that Monster Hunter 4 was fully online and not just local online. Is that not the case? I have a friend buying a 3DS soon that is on the other side of the U.S. and we were hoping to play in the future. Would be nice to know if we can't.
It is local and online. So yes, you can play with each other.