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Media Create Sales: Week 38, 2013 (Sep 16 - Sep 22)

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jakncoke

Banned
Kid Ying said:
It was never stated for 2013. In fact. their lineup got better just cause they finally gave a release date for Mario and Sonic. Before that it was really only Mario and Taiko.

And Streets, i actually think Rayman is not in a bad position. Lego showed that there is a place for western games published by Nintendo. I don't think the title will even cross 20k ltd, by i think at least Top 20 on it's release it's manageable.
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Well if it doesnt that means it would have sold less than about 3 to 3.5 k and well yeah.
 
P

Psycho_Mantis

Banned
So the WiiU lineup this holiday in Japan is:

- Wii Sports Club (eShop)
- Wii Fit U
- Wii Party U
- Drum game
- Super Mario 3D world

Looks bad since there are three titles that are serving an audience that may not even be there on the WiiU.

I have faith the drum game will sell well seeing as it always does.
 
S

Spiegel

Member
schuelma said:
I think the key are the bundles. Will be interesting.
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Nintendo is basically banking everything on 6 party games. I think the system is too expensive/uninteresting for that.

And I see WiiFit/Party/Sports as something closer to the newer Brain Training game (the audience doesn't exist anymore) and not something like Animal Crossing.
 
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frankie_baby

Member
Pyscho_Mantis said:
So the WiiU lineup this holiday in Japan is:

- Wii Sports Club (eShop)
- Wii Fit U
- Wii Party U
- Drum game
- Super Mario 3D world

Looks bad since there are three titles that are serving an audience that may not even be there on the WiiU.

I have faith the drum game will sell well seeing as it always does.
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I think the whole point isn't to serve that audience its to bring that audience in
 
K

Kid Ying

Member
I completely disagree about wii party not having an audience. Its a party game and those titles always did well. Just because it has miis in the place of Mario it doesnt mean its for an entirely different audience.

I dont believe it will get even a quarter of the sales of the original though, but it will fare well.

Fit is the big question to me.
 
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Magicpaint

Member
Kid Ying said:
I completely disagree about wii party not having an audience. Its a party game and those titles always did well. Just because it has miis in the place of Mario it doesnt mean its for an entirely different audience.

I dont believe it will get even a quarter of the sales of the original though, but it will fare well.

Fit is the big question to me.
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Yeah the Mario Party games still did big numbers on N64/GC so that shouldn't be a problem here. WiiFit will however sell about 1/10th of the Wii games at best.
 
R

Road

Member
Last call...

Prediction League October, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 30 to Oct 27):

[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) -
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) -
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) -
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) -
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) -
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) -
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) -


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Deadline: October, 2nd 09:00 am (EST) (when Famitsu or Media Create first make their weekly sales public)




Protip: predict at least 2 million for Pokémon X/Y if you don't want to be dogpiled on.
 
D

DaBoss

Member
You would think people would want to win and not mention that they forgot a 0. Either people on GAF are really nice, or are offended someone would predict so low. :p
 
Z

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Never tried this before, so here it goes I guess:


Prediction League October, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 30 to Oct 27):

[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,712,354
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 98,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 170,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 85,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 50,000 (no idea what this game is)
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 600,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 45,000
 
D

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Prediction League October, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 30 to Oct 27):

[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,300,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 450,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 150,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 60,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 40,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 800,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 80,000
 
E

extralite

Member
Bruno MB said:
2 eShop titles and Wii Party U won't help to sell new systems. The latter will basically be this year's Nintendoland.
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NintendoLand did sell some Wii Us last year. It being part of the Wii Play line of games (or a new franchise, if you prefer), which never sold as well as Sports, Fit or Party, means the latter three should be considered much stronger system sellers than NL.

And Sports is marketed the same way as Karaoke, as a virtual Karaoke or Sports club at your home. You still buy a ticket at a retailer and use it to play at home for a limited time. You don't have to go on eShop to find it, it is advertised and sold at retailers.

And the bundle basically says free Mario U, free Wii Party U, free Wii Fit U demo and 24 hours of free Wii Sports. The U had no problem to sell at launch, because it was during the holidays. We all know how important the holidays are for Nintendo. The bundle is out earlier than the system launch was last year and it has more of the type of titles that actually sold the U last year already.

Pikmin sold as expected, Wonderful 101 did too actually, Viewtiful Joe wasn't a hit on GC either. Why do we expect former hits like Sports, Fit and Party to behave differently when other returning titles have sold as would be expected?

What is holding the U back is price. You don't buy expensive presents during the year. But you do during the holidays. And the U bundle offers plenty of value.

Wii being dead during the last years of its life cycle is nonsense too. Mario and Sonic and even a 3rd party game like Namco's Resort clone did pretty well in the last years, as did Taiko and Kirby. For the family audience there is a continuity of success of the Wii. The U needs to pick up that audience during the holidays.
 
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$h@d0w

Junior Member
Prediction League October, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 30 to Oct 27):

[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 5,000,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 400,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 100,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 15,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 10,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 1,500,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 5,000
 
T

theprodigy

Member
here goes?

Prediction League October, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 30 to Oct 27):

[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,800,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 300,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 160,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 80,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 70,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 650,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 75,000
 
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pieatorium

Member
extralite said:
Pikmin sold as expected, Wonderful 101 did too actually, Viewtiful Joe wasn't a hit on GC either. Why do we expect former hits like Sports, Fit and Party to behave differently when other returning titles have sold as would be expected?
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Pikmin sold ok but will be a decent dropoff for the series when all issaid and done
Viewtiful Joe sold 100k on gc, w101 will be lucky to sell even a third of that
nsmbu is likely to be the lowest selling mario since sunshine
game and wario was a bomba aswell
Mario Party was already a big decline at the end of the wii and I'd be highly surprised if party u comes remotely close to mp9
 
Z

Zornica

Banned
Road said:
Last call...

Prediction League October, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 30 to Oct 27):

[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) 3.250.000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) 450.000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) 200.000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) 35.000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) 80.000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) 1.450.000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) 70.000
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Hope I am not too late
 
M

Mario007

Member
Let's try this...


[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2 856 350
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 250 000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 105 000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 140 000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 95 000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 650 000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 65 000
 
X

XDDX

Member
Almost forgot to do predictions..

[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,615,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 345,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 135,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 70,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 50,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 570,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 65,000
 
D

Deleted member 125677

Unconfirmed Member
ok, why not.


[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2 800 000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 250 000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 90 000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 150 000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 80 000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 800 000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 80 000
 
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Frodo

Member
Atram said:
Why are all making such low predictions for PSVita?
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Some people are obviously trolling, But its sales have been declining since a few weeks before MoHun launched and the trend is that it will continue to sell this bad until they release the new model on the 10th (with the budget release of a few titles as well). That should help a little, but keep in mind that Pokemon is coming out on the 12th, and most of us don't think that Vita can actually compete with that.
 
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shinra-bansho

Member
extralite said:
Why do we expect former hits like Sports, Fit and Party to behave differently when other returning titles have sold as would be expected?
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Past precedent does not necessarily predict future success.
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Expecting Wii Sports, Fit and Party U to have the same effect as their predecessors, ignores changes in the market.
 
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Atram

Member
Frodo said:
Some people are obviously trolling, But its sales have been declining since a few weeks before MoHun launched and the trend is that it will continue to sell this bad until they release the new model on the 10th (with the budget release of a few titles as well). That should help a little, but keep in mind that Pokemon is coming out on the 12th, and most of us don't think that Vita can actually compete with that.
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Yes but with the redesign, everything below 100k for 28 days would be an fail.

On the other side, it was not realy smart from Sony, to bring a redesign in the same week (or period) with the biggest release in Japan since 2 Years.
 
M

michaelius

Banned
Atram said:
Yes but with the redesign, everything below 100k for 28 days would be an fail.

On the other side, it was not realy smart from Sony, to bring a redesign in the same week (or period) with the biggest release in Japan since 2 Years.
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Well MH4-Pokemon combo at the moment is sucking sales our of everything else.
 
C

Cuddler

Member
Prediction League October, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 30 to Oct 27):

[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,500,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 400,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 150,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 150,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 70,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 800,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 90,000
 
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$h@d0w

Junior Member
Atram said:
Why are all making such low predictions for PSVita?
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I'm playing along with the media narrative that the platform has nothing of value to offer. By utterly denouncing it and trampling on it's chances, we create a veritable death cloud surrounding everything Vita related.

That way, when the sales actually pick up, we can fully capitalise on generated stories, interest and comment on the fall from grace to the eventual return to glory.

Sort of like the Wii U, but without the reversal of fortune.
 
E

extralite

Member
pieatorium said:
Pikmin sold ok but will be a decent dropoff for the series when all issaid and done
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We all expect the Wii U and consoles in general to do worse than before. I'm just arguing that it won't have to be as terrible as some are predicting, especially for franchises that had no real test yet. Pikmin is close enough to the earlier games to indicate the drop off doesn't have to be huge.
Viewtiful Joe sold 100k on gc, w101 will be lucky to sell even a third of that
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Clover and Platinum have mostly declined though anyway. If you compare 101 to later games by Platinum its sales were not unexpected at all.

And 101 is a very complicated game appealing to core gamers, which had started to abandon the Wii very early. The family audience has not, or at least we don't know if it has. The holidays will be the real test.
nsmbu is likely to be the lowest selling mario since sunshine
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Maybe it's cheating but I think the bundle will change that outlook. I also think it would easily have outperformed Sunshine over time even without a bundle but we'll never know.
game and wario was a bomba aswell
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That was an experiment. Like NL they took a minigame collection and tried to flesh the games out more, approaching what appeals about a core game. But the Wii audience seems to prefer the simple games that are simulations of stuff they would also do for real like Sports and Fit.

It's definitely not a WarioWare game either. It (and the whole first year of the Wii U) just showed that the Wii concept of unimpressive graphics and impressive controls doesn't sell a console to core gamers. And we knew that from the Wii already. Going the low tech route basically only left the family audience for the U's success.
Mario Party was already a big decline at the end of the wii and I'd be highly surprised if party u comes remotely close to mp9
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Wii Party U should be compared to Wii Party, even though that is based on Mario Party gameplay wise.

I think it's an important game for the Wii U as it has the kind of gameplay people liked about Sports and uses the GamePad and the Wiimotes together to do games that weren't possible on the Wii.

It should sell for the same reason Wii Party sold, appealing to both the MP and the Sports audience.

I'll repeat it: Wii U had a good start because they pushed it out the door for the late holidays. The U launch actually contributed to get them out of the red after 3 quarters of 3DS losses.

But that start wasn't good enough to have a self feeding momentum. Which could be blamed on the lack of games like Wii Sports. Instead they relied on core gamers to which the Wii just didn't appeal. And they tried to turn casual Wii gamers into core gamers but without giving them a reason first to even buy the U. And that strategy also was failing already on the Wii.
 
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Atram

Member
my predictions

[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 2,700,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 350,000
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 180,000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 130,000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 100,000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 740,000
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 115,000
 
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Yeshua

Member
Atram said:
Yes but with the redesign, everything below 100k for 28 days would be an fail.

On the other side, it was not realy smart from Sony, to bring a redesign in the same week (or period) with the biggest release in Japan since 2 Years.
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Isn't the redesign just a Vita with a cheaper screen sold for the same price as the old model ? I have a hard time thinking a lot of people are waiting for it.
 
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Mr Swine

Banned
Yeshua said:
Isn't the redesign just a Vita with a cheaper screen sold for the same price as the old model ? I have a hard time thinking a lot of people are waiting for it.
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It has 1GB storage also, but yeah. If it was $40 cheaper in Japan than the original then I could see people eating for it. But right now it's just a better way for Sony to make more money with a cheaper made console.
 
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hongcha

Member
Yeshua said:
Isn't the redesign just a Vita with a cheaper screen sold for the same price as the old model ?
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Nope, it's a redesign with 4 new color combinations (along with white and black), 20% thinner, 15% lighter, 1GB on-board storage, 1 hour longer battery, MicroUSB, etc.
 
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Newline

Member
Here we go!

[3DS] Pokémon X/Y (16 days) - 4,000,000
[PS3+360] Grand Theft Auto V (18 days) - 600k
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (18 days) - 105 000
[PSV] Danganronpa 1 & 2 Reload (18 days) - 140 000
[3DS] Battle for Money: Sentouchuu (11 days) - 95 000
[3DS] Hardware (28 days) - 800k
[PSV] Hardware (28 days) - 60k
 
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Atram

Member
Yeshua said:
Isn't the redesign just a Vita with a cheaper screen sold for the same price as the old model ? I have a hard time thinking a lot of people are waiting for it.
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Believe in the power of an redesign an new colours (but believe in Vita Dimensions)
 
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