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Media Create Sales: Week 42, 2014 (Oct 13 - Oct 19)

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L~A

Member
hiska-kun said:
This week's releases:

New 3DS XL still sold out 品切れ中
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Still sold out? How frequent are the shipments?

About Tales of the World, expecting something around 30k. Probably only the hardcorest of Tales of fans will buy those, just like the 2 Vita games.
 
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Log4Girlz

Member
Kikujiro said:
The problem with the WiiU is that every big Nintendo franchise is already on the 3DS and then you have tons of popular third parties games, there's not incentive for the average consumers to buy a WiiU when they already have a 3DS.
Smash for 3DS was a smart idea for Nintendo because they need to sell softwares to make money, but it won't do the WiiU version any favor. Yes, the WiiU is fucked in Japan.
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That's part of the problem yes. People can get their absolute fill of Nintendo product by buying a handheld. Why buy a console?
 
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Log4Girlz

Member
Zero²;135549100 said:
Because I like playing on my tv? And stare at beautiful games?
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You and hundreds of thousands of others! But seriously, a unified OS platform, where you can play games on either handheld or console (with that version being scaled up) is the best option for Nintendo going forward. They certainly seem to be hinting at it.
 
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duckroll

Member
Zero²;135549100 said:
Because I like playing on my tv? And stare at beautiful games?
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I guess the question is - are there enough people who feel strongly about that in relation to Nintendo games to keep a dedicated console hardware viable in the market?
 
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Spieler Eins

Member
Kikujiro said:
The problem with the WiiU is that every big Nintendo franchise is already on the 3DS and then you have tons of popular third parties games, there's not incentive for the average consumers to buy a WiiU when they already have a 3DS.
Smash for 3DS was a smart idea for Nintendo because they need to sell softwares to make money, but it won't do the WiiU version any favor. Yes, the WiiU is fucked in Japan.
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Absolutely. It doesn't help that Wii U sequels aren't exactly doing things much differently than their recently released 3DS/Wii predecessors either.

Log4Girlz said:
You and hundreds of thousands of others! But seriously, a unified OS platform, where you can play games on either handheld or console (with that version being scaled up) is the best option for Nintendo going forward. They certainly seem to be hinting at it.
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Hopefully. Although with Nintendo, I wouldn't be surprised if these hints turn out to be nothing but another conservative batch of separated handheld and home console, that just happen to get a few more ports (without crossbuy). Because they've also been saying, the combined architecture would primarely help them to get ports out quicker... (like DK Returns 3D? Or things like Smash U/3DS, only with closer release dates...)
 
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Log4Girlz

Member
Spieler Eins said:
Hopefully. Although with Nintendo, I wouldn't be surprised if these hints turn out to be nothing but another conservative batch of separated handheld and home console, that just happen to get a few more ports (without crossbuy). Because they've also been saying, the combined architecture would primarely help them to get ports out quicker... (like DK Returns 3D? Or things like Smash U/3DS, only with closer release dates...)
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That would be a worst case scenario.
 
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Pennywise83

Banned
Kresnik258 said:
Fair list. A lot of mid-tier software in there, which is what hasn't been massively prominent on 3DS. Are the games all scheduled for the first quarter?

(And is Mirai Deluxe expected to do well? I thought it was just a repackaging of the version of Mirai 2 that the west is getting).
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Some of them are; Devil Survivor 2 is January, Bravely Second is Winter, etc.

I don't know much about Mirai Deluxe; I thought it was more of an expansion; it should crack 80-90k units.
 
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Mauricio_Magus

Banned
Log4Girlz said:
That would be a worst case scenario.
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We're probably getting a handheld and a console that can get ports easily between them, so get ready for the worst case scenario. Basically a ton of games like Smash 3DS/WiiU stuff, hopefully with both versions being more similar. They would both still have some exclusives but if they want they would be able to release them for both systems.
 
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Zero²

Member
Log4Girlz said:
You and hundreds of thousands of others! But seriously, a unified OS platform, where you can play games on either handheld or console (with that version being scaled up) is the best option for Nintendo going forward. They certainly seem to be hinting at it.
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One this I'm worried about that Fusion rumor is if both handheld part of the console or the home part of the console would be able to be sold separately. I mean if someone only is only interested in the handheld part of it they would have to pay for the home console part as well, surely bringing the overall price way up.

But yeah, I agree that the unified OS is really the way to go.
 
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Sammy Samusu

Member
38./47. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom) {2013.09.14} - 1.065 / 3.438.315 (+5%)

LOL!


46./53. [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters - Tokimeki Up! (Nintendo) {2014.04.17} - 933 / 71.066

Awesome! Famitsu has the original at 320k and Tokimeki (free DLC included) at 65k. It's getting really close to 400k LTD!
 
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bigmit3737

Member
Foshy said:
For the rest of the year:

10/23
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 2014
Super Hero Generation
The Unfinished Swan

10/29
Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition

10/30
DRAMAtical Murder re:code
Grisaia no Meikyuu: Le Labyrinthe de la Grisaia
Kono Oozora ni, Tsubasa o Hirogete: Cruise Sign

11/13
Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax
Hanayamata: Yosakoi Live!
Marginal #4: Idol of Supernova

11/19
Monster Hunter Frontier G6 (Premium Package)

11/20
M3: Sono Kuroki Hagane /// Mission Memento Mori
Senjou no Waltz

11/27
Code:Realize - Sousei no Himegimi (Limited Edition)
Dekamori Senran Kagura
Fate/hollow ataraxia
Ginsei Igo: Next Generation
Nisekoi: Yomeiri!?
Ooedo Blacksmith
Phantasy Star Nova
Rail Wars! Karuizawa Yori Satsui o Jousete
Senran Kagura: Dekamori Shinovi Pack
White Album 2: Shiawase no Mukougawa (AquaPrice 2800)

12/04
Borderlands 2
Diabolik Lovers: Vandead Carnival
Sengoku Musou Chronicle 3

12/11
Chikyuu Boueigun 2 Portable V2
Grisaia no Rakuen: Le Eden de la Grisaia
Kadenz fermata//Akkord:fortissimo
Norn9: Var Commons
Sengoku Hime 5: Senkatatsu Haoh no Keifu

12/18
Gundam Breaker 2
Kaeru Batake de Tsukamaete
Kami Jijigen Game Neptune Re;Birth 3: V Century
Root Infinity Rexx

12/25
Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei: Out of Order

There's a steady flow of titles, most of them are niche though. The biggest ones will be Phantasy Star Nova and Gundam Breaker 2. Minecraft could be big if it wasn't digital only.
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Thanks for this.
It seems those two big games are not going to create enough of a momentum to change the weekly base sales .

It had such a good start this year as well.
I'm afraid next year is going to be even worse.
 
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Spiegel

Member
The bundle is for the Sony store. i.e. It will be very limited and won't bump the hardware sales.

Vita is such a boring console now in term of sales-age. For a few months late last year and until a few weeks after Freedom Wars it seemed like it might start getting more and bigger releases but the TGS made it clear that Sony is all in PS4 mode and Vita will fade away painfully and slowly.

Oh well.
 
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hiska-kun

Member
L~A said:
Still sold out? How frequent are the shipments?

About Tales of the World, expecting something around 30k. Probably only the hardcorest of Tales of fans will buy those, just like the 2 Vita games.
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I couldn't check everyday. But I think the XL hasn't been restocked since sunday, when it was sold out.
I think the same picture is showed in the other stores. Gonna check the following days.
 
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Sammy Samusu

Member
Spiegel said:
The bundle is for the Sony store. i.e. It will be very limited and won't bump the hardware sales.

Vita is such a boring console now in term of sales-age. For a few months late last year and until a few weeks after Freedom Wars it seemed like it might start getting more and bigger releases but the TGS made it clear that Sony is all in PS4 mode and Vita will fade away painfully and slowly.

Oh well.
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Are you sure? Welp.

They have been doing lots of Sony store exclusives, are retailers not willing to stock their bundles?
 
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AcademicSaucer

Member
Log4Girlz said:
That's part of the problem yes. People can get their absolute fill of Nintendo product by buying a handheld. Why buy a console?
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If you look at the gameboy vs the SNES, the gamecube vs GBA, ds vs wii, etc you will see that the nintendo handheld crowd has always been bigger tan the homeconsole one, and now with the Wii U, we can see that too , Nintendo should decide if that small group of people that buy their home consoles are worth losing so much money for.
 
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Celine

Member
AcademicSaucer said:
If you look at the gameboy vs the SNES, the gamecube vs Gamecube, ds vs wii, etc you will see that the nintendo handheld crowd has always been bigger tan the homeconsole one, and now with the Wii U, we can see that too , Nintendo should decide if that small group of people that buy their home consoles are worth losing so much money for.
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WiiU is selling badly but it must not be taken as a sign that Nintendo should give up to the revenue stream generated by a home system.
The problem lies more in how Nintendo shaped the WiiU (and 3DS).
 
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SmokyDave

Member
Spiegel said:
The bundle is for the Sony store. i.e. It will be very limited and won't bump the hardware sales.

Vita is such a boring console now in term of sales-age. For a few months late last year and until a few weeks after Freedom Wars it seemed like it might start getting more and bigger releases but the TGS made it clear that Sony is all in PS4 mode and Vita will fade away painfully and slowly.

Oh well.
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I don't think it's going to fade slowly. Next year's gonna be rough, barring some freak announcement out of the blue.
 
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
SmokyDave said:
I don't think it's going to fade slowly. Next year's gonna be rough, barring some freak announcement out of the blue.
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It's somehow funny how Nintendo has a great (in Japan) success, that is good in overall terms (WW), while has a struggling product (Wii U), worldwide.
On the other hand, Sony has a great (in the West) success, that will be (now it is not) good in Japan (probably), while has a struggling product (Vita), worldwide.
Cross-similarity LOL
 
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Kresnik258

Member
AcademicSaucer said:
Im sure the new digimon game is going to sell well
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I still think God Eater 2 Burst is going to be the biggest selling game for Vita next year, unless there's something unannounced in the pipelines. Which is pretty depressing for hardware since it already did the heavy lifting in 2013.

Persona; Sword Art Online; Senran Kagura and the inevitable Freedom Wars Delta should do alright too. But again, not much for hardware in there since they're all already on the system.

Digimon is the only really announced game that has a chance of drawing a new crowd in. Kantai Collection too, but we don't even know if that's a physical release.
 
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theprodigy

Member
I figured this would be the best place to ask since it's currently the most active sales thread, when does the Microsoft Q1 report go up?

inb4 someone just posted a thread for it

edit: rofl didn't get a response before it went up
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Kresnik258 said:
I know Legend of Legacy is scheduled for early next year and I assume Xenoblade is coming too, but is the assumption that the console will keep selling regardless of new releases due to Monster Hunter/Smash/Pokemon/Youkai Watch legs?
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Single titles alone, not combo of titles, have carried systems after holidays at empty periods for months.

If the hype is there it will be the same again.
 
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sörine

Banned
3DS will get other new releases in Q1 too. I feel like we go through this every season, people remark on the lack of 3DS releases 3+ months out but inevitably the schedule fills up anyway. It happened this holiday too.

My shot in the dark guess for a big title would be DQMJ3, though maybe Heroes pushes that into later in the year.
 
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hiska-kun

Member
Media Create

Pre-orders for Youkai Watch 2 Shin Uchi reached 231k units on Sunday 19th.
Compared to the last entry, YW2 Ganso and Honke had 450k pre-orders together 8 weeks before its release.
So this entry have more or less the same amount of pre-orders of a single version.

But MC notes that pre-orders for Shin Uchi started later, so the overall start is better.
 
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Road

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE NOVEMBER 2014

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Oct 27 to Nov 30):

[ALL] Call of Duty Advanced Warfare (18 days) -
[ALL] Winning Eleven 2015 (18 days) -
[PS3+PSV] Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax (18 days) -
[WIU] Captain Toad Treasure Tracker (18 days) -
[3DS] Pokemon OmegaRuby / AlphaSapphire (10 days) -
[PSV] Phantasy Star Nova (4 days) -
[3DS] Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold (4 days) -
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Deadline: October 1st 09:00 am (EST) (when Famitsu or Media Create first make their weekly sales public)
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Attention:
  • Remember for some games it's not only the 1st week.
  • Multiplatform games are the combined available sales of each platform
  • [ALL] = all platforms available.
  • Call of Duty Advanced Warfare is the subtitled edition only.

Rules:
  • Do not edit your post after the deadline. If you do, you'll be disqualified.
  • The official monthly hardware sales will be the sum of weekly numbers for all versions of the system available from Famitsu.
  • The official monthly software sales will be the latest total or the sum of the weekly numbers if the title is release before the period available from the Famitsu Top 30.
  • The official monthly sales for multi-platform releases will be the combined available sales of each platform shown in the title entry.
  • The official monthly sales for games with multiple versions will be the combined available sales of each version shown in the title entry.
  • Any game missing in the Famitsu top 30 will be taken out of the predictions.

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Other November bombas:

Assassin's Creed Unity
Taiko no Tatsujin Tokumori
Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires
Xbox One everything
One Piece Super Grand Battle X
Resident Evil HD Remaster
 
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hiska-kun

Member
I went to Shibuya today. And I checked Tsutaya's store.

As I expected New 3DS XL is sold out there too. I guess the new shipment will come tomorrow (Saturday), but I think XL hasn't been restocked yet this week.

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It begins! Price drops. For the moment it's just 20% discount, but it's a matter of time it goes lower and lower.
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1st Course

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE NOVEMBER 2014

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Oct 27 to Nov 30):

[ALL] Call of Duty Advanced Warfare (18 days) - 200k
[ALL] Winning Eleven 2015 (18 days) - 220k
[PS3+PSV] Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax (18 days) - 50k
[WIU] Captain Toad Treasure Tracker (18 days) - 65k
[3DS] Pokemon OmegaRuby / AlphaSapphire (10 days) - 1700k
[PSV] Phantasy Star Nova (4 days) - 180k
[3DS] Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold (4 days) - 70k
 
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Pennywise83

Banned
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Oct 27 to Nov 30):

[ALL] Call of Duty Advanced Warfare (18 days) - 230.000
[ALL] Winning Eleven 2015 (18 days) - 280.000
[PS3+PSV] Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax (18 days) - 28.000
[WIU] Captain Toad Treasure Tracker (18 days) - 60.000
[3DS] Pokemon OmegaRuby / AlphaSapphire (10 days) - 1.800.000
[PSV] Phantasy Star Nova (4 days) - 120.000
[3DS] Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold (4 days) - 65.000
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hiska-kun said:
Media Create

Pre-orders for Youkai Watch 2 Shin Uchi reached 231k units on Sunday 19th.
Compared to the last entry, YW2 Ganso and Honke had 450k pre-orders together 8 weeks before its release.
So this entry have more or less the same amount of pre-orders of a single version.

But MC notes that pre-orders for Shin Uchi started later, so the overall start is better.
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It's crazy, and it will also sell a lot thanks to holidays and the movie, so preorders might not paint the full picture.
 
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ugoo18

Member
Log4Girlz said:
You and hundreds of thousands of others! But seriously, a unified OS platform, where you can play games on either handheld or console (with that version being scaled up) is the best option for Nintendo going forward. They certainly seem to be hinting at it.
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Unifying that usebase at this point seems like the only way to even get 3rd parties to look at them through sheer weight of numbers in Japan at least. A unified OS would probably at least cause the return of the bigger yearly 3rd party games (FIFA, Madden and stuff like that) because of that unified userbase.
 
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Micerider

Member
Really depressing, Japan is dropping home consoles so hard it hurts. And handleds wouldn't look that good without the few "usual" steamrollers on 3DS.

With that Pace, Belgium will soon be a bigger market for Xbox One than Japan...
 
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wmlk

Member
I feel like Nintendo is more forward thinking with their hardware than people are giving them credit for. The cross-platform idea that they'll likely go with should be really important.

Micerider said:
Really depressing, Japan is dropping home consoles so hard it hurts. And handleds wouldn't look that good without the few "usual" steamrollers on 3DS.

With that Pace, Belgium will soon be a bigger market for Xbox One than Japan...
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Japan is just going with the trends. PS4 and XBOX One are just faster horses.
 
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Micerider

Member
wmlk said:
Japan is just going with the trends. PS4 and XBOX One are just faster horses.
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Yes, but their trends are not going in the same directions as other markets, and just "faster horses" is over-simplifying. Those horses would fare much better with exclusives DQ, FF or Monster Hunter games for instance.
 
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wmlk

Member
Micerider said:
Yes, but their trends are not going in the same directions as other markets, and just "faster horses" is over-simplifying. Those horses would fare much better with exclusives DQ, FF or Monster Hunter games for instance.
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Faster horses is exactly what it is, especially in Japan where they seemingly don't care about the PS4.

People can say it's because publishers aren't putting exclusives on PS4, but the other side of the coin is that they see the trend of people not adapting to newer consoles and focusing on mobile.

I dunno, I just find the idea of a cross-platform that still has the usability of a handheld really appealing and forward-thinking. I just hope whatever comes of it is executed well.
 
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Principate

Saint Titanfall
Micerider said:
Yes, but their trends are not going in the same directions as other markets, and just "faster horses" is over-simplifying. Those horses would fare much better with exclusives DQ, FF or Monster Hunter games for instance.
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Publishers have no obligations to save failing consoles, especially at the cost of profitability. Your argument would work with every failing software ecosystem in existence, but there's little purpose outside of western focused products.
 
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