IIRC, Yakuza, MGS, RE and DQ are all in the first half.
And they also won't affect the PS4's baseline in a meaningful way.
IIRC, Yakuza, MGS, RE and DQ are all in the first half.
Chaos Rings III did about as well as I expected, though I too am surprised SE made such a large shipment (seems like it was around 30-40k). It launched simultaneously on iOS and Android in Japan (I think it is the first game to ever do this?), both of which were at 2800 yen instead of ~5000 yen for the Vita version. The Vita version includes the previous three games as well, but most people probably don't care too much about that as they've been on mobile for years. I've read a lot of comments from Japanese who complained about the price difference between the Vita version and the mobile versions, and I think if they sold just CRIII (without the previous three games) for 2800 yen, it would have done a lot better. Anyway, it will be interesting to see its digital sales on Vita, I'm curious whether or not it will sell well there.
CRIII is a rare game in this day and age: a masterfully crafted and enjoyable JRPG similar to those made in the mid-late 90s, without fan service/panty shots. I'd like to see such games supported in Japan, but so far it is not looking very promising. I'm hoping it will do better on iOS/Android, at least.
And they also won't affect the PS4's baseline in a meaningful way.
I believe they will
Citation needed. And don't say previous generations. They don't apply any longer
Just wondering, what were you expecting and what was the reason that you expected much(?) more?I didn´t expect much from Chaos Rings 3 but I´m really surprised that it ended up selling this bad.
What is the PS4 baseline? ~5k?And they also won't affect the PS4's baseline in a meaningful way.
I think the important thing is that other games are being released around the same time. Those game alone probably wont keep the PS4 sales up for a very long time unless there are other games being released in a more steady flow.I believe they will
Honestly there aren't even that many outside of Japan.
It's not a genre in the best of health.
we can look at the vita and see what happened when games started hitting for a sony platform. i think the ps4 will make it to at least 6m in japan. the wii u will probably come to a halt at 3m if not a little more.
right now i think the ps4 is dormant. or maybe essentially supported by a lot of the old super hardcore japanese xbox 360 market for the time being.
Vita isn't getting to 6m either though.we can look at the vita and see what happened when games started hitting for a sony platform. i think the ps4 will make it to at least 6m in japan. the wii u will probably come to a halt at 3m if not a little more.
right now i think the ps4 is dormant. or maybe essentially supported by a lot of the old super hardcore japanese xbox 360 market for the time being.
C'mon, don't say that. People can only depend on the YoY vacuum for Vita sales.this is very likely the vita's peak year in japan (for the us that was 2012), like how it was for the 3ds last year. from now on you are going to see lower hardware sales and smaller software sales. developers are going from ps3/psv to psv/ps4 right now too. eventually it will just be ps4 or ps4/mobile.
These YOY comparisons are interesting for statistic reasons but completely miss the full picture. Maybe Vita will have a YOY rise. So what? It will also have terrible hw sales fot the last 3 months of the year and wiil enter 2015 with zero hype.
Same for 3DS. It had great September and October last year but at the important last 2 months it run out of fuel. First half of 2014 was disappointing as expected.
We have a similar scenario for 3DS from some lately. "Maybe it will have a good year end but it will be way down YOY". It should be obvious what's more important for future analysis.
You consider "soon" over 3 years for the revision? The system will be lucky to last the more or less standard 5 year cycle.I caved and ordered a new 3ds LL. I was mad at Nintendo for releasing a revision so soon. But when I checked the order date of my past LL purchase on Nippon yasan it said 2012(damn time flies).
Every other platform but 3ds is basically dead in Japan, such a shame Sony dropped the ball with vita.
Dragon quest:Heros
Metal Gear Solid V
Persona 5
Yakuza 0
Resident Evil: Revelations
I know they don't have a release date but i think they will come in the second half of the year
WiiUs problem is the same problem that every home console after the Snes had - they need to get their 3rd party support in order, Nintendo alone isnt and wont be enough - no matter how cool the next gimmick is.
All 1st half, maybe MGSV will be fall 2015.
We don't know much of PS4's late 2015 schedule. Expect Hot Shots and Tekken 7 for now. FFXV......maybe.
Wonder what happened to all those devs that kept putting out niche VNs and shmups on the 360.I'm still shocked they even attempted.
I think it might be due to trying to keep JP devs on board, as why should they try if MS wouldn't even put out the console in Japan. That sort of thing.
For the rest of the year:Those numbers for Vita are so depressing .
What's the lineup looking for the next few months ?
I'm bearish on the PS4 overall if for no other reason than I'm not convinced Japanese devs really have it in them to push the system even if they wanted to.I don't see the PS4 being anything like the Vita and even if the baseline does increase in a meaningful way at some point I don't see it being because of those five titles.
Vita is disappointing. I wonder where it's final LTD will sit
Wii U sales are poor. Wonder what Smash will do for it considering Smash 3DS's success. PS4 will likely be joining Wii U in the lower slums soon I think?
XB1 is somehow even more irrelevant than the 360 or the OG Xbox. Wonder if it will get to 100k LTD
3DS seems decent this week although I'm not familiar with past sales curves for new revisions of Nintendo handhelds.
Driveclub is a complete bomba in Japan while PS4 Destiny will probably end up with double the LTD of Bayonetta 2, strange times.
Chaos Rings III sold what I expected but clearly not what SE expected.
However, it looks like it outsold its mobile counterparts quite handily...
SE going full Vita development now is an inevitability. Mobile had a good run.
Minecraft could be big if it wasn't digital only.
Like hopeful Wii U owners now and in the past, PS4 owners are probably of the attitude that a single game or selection of games will be enough to turn the tide and save the PS4.It's there now. The PS4 is comatose yet people are going on like it's perfectly fine.
It's there now. The PS4 is comatose yet people are going on like it's perfectly fine.
I am curious how Japan would receive a Nintendo handheld/console hybrid.
I don't think Animal Crossing actually has buyers, I think it just assimilates random people who walk to close to it on the shelf. It is like the Borg only cuter.
sörine;135477196 said:Vita isn't getting to 6m either though.
I was thinking sub-5k when I said that but I really don't think people in Media Creates threads are thinking the PS4 is selling "perfectly fine" and I'm not sure where you got the notion from?
I definitely expect a price cut next year. That could have a lasting effect (though not a big one unless more games come out--price changes are force multipliers, they can't carry an unwanted system).).I don't see the PS4 being anything like the Vita and even if the baseline does increase in a meaningful way at some point I don't see it being because of those five titles.
It's mind boggling how Sony's continued to drop the ball with Minecraft in Japan. Especially after how well the Japanese retail release of Terrania did on PS3/Vita.
I wonder if they are planning a price cut too. Meh, I'll just wait for the Slim redesign. Type-0 should be on PC dammit.PS4 release schedule update!
PS4 release schedule update!
Earth Defence Force 4.1 releasing on PS4 in February!
01/22  Lego Marvel Super Heroes
01/22  Far Cry4
01/29  Bladestorm
02/05  Bloodborne
02/05  Dragon Ball XenoVerse
02/19  Dead or Alive 5 LR
02/20  The Order1886
02/26  The Witcher 3
02/??  Earth Defence Force 4.1
02/??  God Eater 2 Rage Burst (not confirmed; releasing in Winter + 5 year anni) 
03/19  Final Fantasy Type-0 HD (+FF15 demo)
03/26  Disgaea5
03/26  Senran Kagura Estival Versus
03/??  Dragon Quest Heroes (not confirmed; releasing in Spring and before next fiscal year)
Like hopeful Wii U owners now and in the past, PS4 owners are probably of the attitude that a single game or selection of games will be enough to turn the tide and save the PS4.
To be honest, I think we're beyond that. Japan needs saving, not the console.
Tekken 7 might not even be 2015.
PS4 release schedule update!
Earth Defence Force 4.1 releasing on PS4 in February!
01/22  Lego Marvel Super Heroes
01/22  Far Cry4
01/29  Bladestorm
02/05  Bloodborne
02/05  Dragon Ball XenoVerse
02/19  Dead or Alive 5 LR
02/20  The Order1886
02/26  The Witcher 3
02/??  Earth Defence Force 4.1
02/??  God Eater 2 Rage Burst (not confirmed; releasing in Winter + 5 year anni) 
03/19  Final Fantasy Type-0 HD (+FF15 demo)
03/26  Disgaea5
03/26  Senran Kagura Estival Versus
03/??  Dragon Quest Heroes (not confirmed; releasing in Spring and before next fiscal year)
I didn't put RE Rev 2 in since we don't have a month yet... do we?+ RE Revelations 2 and hopefully Persona 5.
Cool. I didn't know Nintendo had the charts on their site. Thanks.
All-time ranking from Nintendo with Famitsu download estimates:
1. Animal Crossing New Leaf
2. Pokémon AR Searcher
3. Monster Hunter 4 - 290k (missing nov-13)
4. Pokemon Battle Trozei - 166k (missing aug-14, sep-14. oct-14).
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8. Super Smash Bros. for 3DS
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15. Monster Hunter 4G
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18. Tomodachi Collection
19. Kirby Fighters Z - 44k (missing sep-14, oct-14)
Do we know if Nintendo counts download cards in these rankings? Even including download cards, Kirby Fighters Z is at 55k. It seems low, but maybe it has sold a lot in september and october.
Out of genuine interest, what is releasing on 3DS in Q1/Q2 that is expected to keep momentum going? Last year, though not particularly strong by general standards, Vita at least had a March with a fair few releases and SRW & SAO in April to carry on momentum (which, though boosted by a hardware revision, wasn't exactly based in any long-term software sales).
I know Legend of Legacy is scheduled for early next year and I assume Xenoblade is coming too, but is the assumption that the console will keep selling regardless of new releases due to Monster Hunter/Smash/Pokemon/Youkai Watch legs?
I am curious how Japan would receive a Nintendo handheld/console hybrid.
I don't think Animal Crossing actually has buyers, I think it just assimilates random people who walk to close to it on the shelf. It is like the Borg only cuter.
There are some important games coming. Bravely Second, Devil Survivor 2: Break Record, Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai Deluxe, The Great Ace Attorney, PoPoLoCrois Monogatari, Kenka Bancho 6. I would assume the first months of 2015 will be calmer as in 2014, though.
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| Model | This Week | Week (%) | FY 2014 | FY (%) |
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| 3DS | 463.955 | 76.50% | 10.700.512 | 55.60% |
| Vita | 54.663 | 9.00% | 2.787.932 | 14.50% |
| PS3 | 51.949 | 8.60% | 2.946.823 | 15.30% |
| Wii U | 14.314 | 2.40% | 1.508.268 | 7.80% |
| PS4 | 13.688 | 2.30% | 733.351 | 3.80% |
| PSP | 6.037 | 1.00% | 501.159 | 2.60% |
| XB1 | 1.612 | 0.30% | 74.924 | 0.40% |
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| Total | 606.218 | 100.00% | 19.252.969 | 100.00% |
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| Model | This Week | Week (%) | FY 2014 | FY (%) |
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| 3DS | 118.214 | 82.00% | 1.266.619 | 51.10% |
| Vita | 8.297 | 5.80% | 447.863 | 18.10% |
| PS4 | 7.043 | 4.90% | 246.851 | 10.00% |
| Wii U | 4.976 | 3.50% | 262.951 | 10.60% |
| PS3 | 4.675 | 3.20% | 179.591 | 7.20% |
| XB1 | 829 | 0.60% | 32.693 | 1.30% |
| PSP | 164 | 0.10% | 43.495 | 1.80% |
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| Total | 144.198 | 100.00% | 2.480.063 | 100.00% |
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