thestopsign
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Does that mean it's approaching 500k in its first week? I was expecting Mario Kart to do at least 400k.
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Media Create Sales: Week 47, 2011 (Nov 21 - Nov 27)
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Does that mean it's approaching 500k in its first week? I was expecting Mario Kart to do at least 400k.
azalyn keeps saying for weeks now that preorders at his store were comparable to Xillia
Are you including BEST releases with the total or do you think MH3G won't pass up MHP2's total alone?
thestopsign
Member
Any specific reason for the sudden spike in popularity for the series? Is there a new popular anime/manga out or something?
distantmantra
Member
It's a really good game, glad to see it selling well.
It's been the top game at the arcades for about a year now. It's also on a console now and about 99.5% identical to the arcade version.
Well it doesn't hurt that the next Unicorn just shipped which is really popular as well as a new Anime is running and it has the ever popular UC and CE stuff in it. Add OO and the small Wing fanbase which has been given plenty of love this year.
It's really a perfect storm for GEX.
Two games in the 400-500k range next week? What a week!
About Monster Hunter, remember that it's a franchise that can have legs.
And when I talk about legs, I mean...
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (Capcom) - 2.146.467 / 4.501.975 / 47,68% 01/12/10
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (Capcom) - 823.265 / 2.453.132 / 33,56% 27/03/08
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 2 (Capcom) - 746.313 / 1.723.187 / 43,31% 22/02/07
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite [PSP the Best] (Capcom) - 19.829 / 1.111.876 / 1,78% 30/10/08
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom (Capcom) - 118.317 / 668.964 / 17,69% 01/12/05
HORI SHITTO worthy legs. Yes, even the 3rd, considering that, despite a 2 million debut, it has a first week / LTD ratio inferior to 50%, outstanding for a game with such a big opening.
And legs are much bigger when a brand comes out early in the life span of a console. Especially in the case of the 3DS, a console which will rise to high levels in the next weeks. And more hardware means more software, especially on a Nintendo console.
I hope however they obtain to increase the shipment, or to reship quickly, because 420k will not be enough for the first week. Really.
Just before the Comgnet charts come out, Amazon watch:
3DS skus
White - 7th
Blue - 12th
Pink - 15th
Red - 17th
Black - 18th
Pokepark 2 has risen a lot, from the lowe 30-40th to just out of the top 10...Kirby is 9th.
Mario & Sonic was outside the top100 during last week: now that the release is approaching, it's 26th
Mario Kart Wii is 27th (?!?!?), Wii Wheel is 55th.
Taiko 3 is 34th.
Go Vacation is in top40.
SD Gundam GG 3D is in top50 after being in the 80th position for a long time.
Family Fishing rising again
New Super Mario Bros. Wii is again in the top100, 67th
Zelda is 70th
Pokemon Rumble is just outside the top100, such as NSMB (?!?!?!?!?!?)
About Monster Hunter, remember that it's a franchise that can have legs.
And when I talk about legs, I mean...
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (Capcom) - 2.146.467 / 4.501.975 / 47,68% 01/12/10
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (Capcom) - 823.265 / 2.453.132 / 33,56% 27/03/08
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 2 (Capcom) - 746.313 / 1.723.187 / 43,31% 22/02/07
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite [PSP the Best] (Capcom) - 19.829 / 1.111.876 / 1,78% 30/10/08
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom (Capcom) - 118.317 / 668.964 / 17,69% 01/12/05
HORI SHITTO worthy legs. Yes, even the 3rd, considering that, despite a 2 million debut, it has a first week / LTD ratio inferior to 50%, outstanding for a game with such a big opening.
And legs are much bigger when a brand comes out early in the life span of a console. Especially in the case of the 3DS, a console which will rise to high levels in the next weeks. And more hardware means more software, especially on a Nintendo console.
I hope however they obtain to increase the shipment, or to reship quickly, because 420k will not be enough for the first week. Really.
Just before the Comgnet charts come out, Amazon watch:
3DS skus
White - 7th
Blue - 12th
Pink - 15th
Red - 17th
Black - 18th
Pokepark 2 has risen a lot, from the lowe 30-40th to just out of the top 10...Kirby is 9th.
Mario & Sonic was outside the top100 during last week: now that the release is approaching, it's 26th
Mario Kart Wii is 27th (?!?!?), Wii Wheel is 55th.
Taiko 3 is 34th.
Go Vacation is in top40.
SD Gundam GG 3D is in top50 after being in the 80th position for a long time.
Family Fishing rising again
New Super Mario Bros. Wii is again in the top100, 67th
Zelda is 70th
Pokemon Rumble is just outside the top100, such as NSMB (?!?!?!?!?!?)
And here we go
Comgnet Daily Preorder Ranking
Last update: 05 December 2011 (Mon) 08:00
Ranking is closed at December 04, 2011
[3DS] Monster 3G (Limited Edition) - 878pt
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 - 563pt
[3DS] Monster 3G (slide pad Bundle) - 276pt
[PS3] Armored Core 5 - 136Pt
[PS3] OG Super Robot Taisen 2 - 105pt
[PSP] Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's PORTABLE-THE GEARS OF DESTINY-GOD BOX Limited Edition - 98pt
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIIIヴェルサス - 96Pt
[PS3] OROCHI 2 Warriors (Limited Edition) - 92pt
[PS3] BLAZBLUE CONTINUUM SHIFT EXTEND - 80pt
[NDS] peaked witch hat and stylish - 76pt
[PSP] To Aru Kagaku no Railgun (Limited Edition) - 63Pt
[PS3] The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - 60pt
[PSV] GOLF6 everyone - 53pt
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven GO Shine - 52pt
[PS3] Ultimate Blast Dragon Ball - 50pt
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven GO Dark - 47pt
[PSP] I & II Machine God tier Super Robot Taisen OG Saga - 41pt
[PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (dub version) - 41pt
[PSP] BOX ☆ limitation agreement portable Madoka Magika Maho Shojo (Full, Limited Edition) - 39pt
[PSP] To Aru Kagaku no Railgun (Limited Edition) - 39Pt
MH3G - 1154pt
Final Fantasy XIII-2 - 563pt
Final Fantasy XIII - 1804pt
Inazuma Eleven Go [Shine/Dark] - 99pt
Inazuma Eleven 3 [Bomber/Sparks] - 254pt
Inazuma Eleven 2 [Fire/Blizzard] - 122pt
Comgnet Weekly Sales Ranking
Last update: 05 December 2011 (Mon) 08:00
Index aggregation period: Tuesday, December 04, 2011 ~ November 28, 2011
[PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam VS Extreme - 968pt
[3DS] Mario Kart 7 - 621pt
[PSP] Kamen Rider Climax Heroes for zero - 109pt
[PS3] Assassin's Creed configuration Liberate - 106pt
[3DS] 3D Super Mario Land - 63pt
[PSP] Seventh Dragon 2020 (Limited Edition) - 59pt
[PS3] THE KING OF FIGHTERS XIII - 57pt
[Wii] Wii Dragon Quest and Super Mario Thank Street - 51pt
[NDS] Power Pro Kun Pocket 14 - 51pt
[Wii] Kamen Rider Climax Heroes for zero - 45pt
[NDS] One Piece Gigant Battle the New World 2 (Limited Edition) - 45pt
[Wii] Kirby of the Stars Wii - 43pt
[PS3] Tekken Hybrid - 38pt
[PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (Subtitled) - 31pt
[PS3] Saint Seiya Wing (Limited Edition) - 31pt
[Wii] JUST DANCE Wii (Just Dance Wii) - 29pt
[Wii] The World Beyond PokePark 2 - 27pt
[Wii] The Legend of Zelda Sword Ward Sky (with a special CD) - 26pt
[PS3] The Queen of Country White Ash Nino - 26pt
[Wii] Rhythm Heaven for Everyone - 25pt
Holy hell at Gundam being at almost 1000pts... it could have really done 500k in the first week.
Unfortunately, we don't have what MKWii did in Comgnet points...
Edit: Could we receive early datas from Famitsu, for Gundam, MK and 3DS?
Comgnet Daily Preorder Ranking
Last update: 05 December 2011 (Mon) 08:00
Ranking is closed at December 04, 2011
[3DS] Monster 3G (Limited Edition) - 878pt
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 - 563pt
[3DS] Monster 3G (slide pad Bundle) - 276pt
[PS3] Armored Core 5 - 136Pt
[PS3] OG Super Robot Taisen 2 - 105pt
[PSP] Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's PORTABLE-THE GEARS OF DESTINY-GOD BOX Limited Edition - 98pt
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIIIヴェルサス - 96Pt
[PS3] OROCHI 2 Warriors (Limited Edition) - 92pt
[PS3] BLAZBLUE CONTINUUM SHIFT EXTEND - 80pt
[NDS] peaked witch hat and stylish - 76pt
[PSP] To Aru Kagaku no Railgun (Limited Edition) - 63Pt
[PS3] The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - 60pt
[PSV] GOLF6 everyone - 53pt
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven GO Shine - 52pt
[PS3] Ultimate Blast Dragon Ball - 50pt
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven GO Dark - 47pt
[PSP] I & II Machine God tier Super Robot Taisen OG Saga - 41pt
[PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (dub version) - 41pt
[PSP] BOX ☆ limitation agreement portable Madoka Magika Maho Shojo (Full, Limited Edition) - 39pt
[PSP] To Aru Kagaku no Railgun (Limited Edition) - 39Pt
MH3G - 1154pt
Final Fantasy XIII-2 - 563pt
Final Fantasy XIII - 1804pt
Inazuma Eleven Go [Shine/Dark] - 99pt
Inazuma Eleven 3 [Bomber/Sparks] - 254pt
Inazuma Eleven 2 [Fire/Blizzard] - 122pt
Comgnet Weekly Sales Ranking
Last update: 05 December 2011 (Mon) 08:00
Index aggregation period: Tuesday, December 04, 2011 ~ November 28, 2011
[PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam VS Extreme - 968pt
[3DS] Mario Kart 7 - 621pt
[PSP] Kamen Rider Climax Heroes for zero - 109pt
[PS3] Assassin's Creed configuration Liberate - 106pt
[3DS] 3D Super Mario Land - 63pt
[PSP] Seventh Dragon 2020 (Limited Edition) - 59pt
[PS3] THE KING OF FIGHTERS XIII - 57pt
[Wii] Wii Dragon Quest and Super Mario Thank Street - 51pt
[NDS] Power Pro Kun Pocket 14 - 51pt
[Wii] Kamen Rider Climax Heroes for zero - 45pt
[NDS] One Piece Gigant Battle the New World 2 (Limited Edition) - 45pt
[Wii] Kirby of the Stars Wii - 43pt
[PS3] Tekken Hybrid - 38pt
[PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (Subtitled) - 31pt
[PS3] Saint Seiya Wing (Limited Edition) - 31pt
[Wii] JUST DANCE Wii (Just Dance Wii) - 29pt
[Wii] The World Beyond PokePark 2 - 27pt
[Wii] The Legend of Zelda Sword Ward Sky (with a special CD) - 26pt
[PS3] The Queen of Country White Ash Nino - 26pt
[Wii] Rhythm Heaven for Everyone - 25pt
Holy hell at Gundam being at almost 1000pts... it could have really done 500k in the first week.
Unfortunately, we don't have what MKWii did in Comgnet points...
Edit: Could we receive early datas from Famitsu, for Gundam, MK and 3DS?
frankie_baby
Member
What did Mario 3d land do on comgnet the week it was released?
It could, but I don't think it's guaranteed...
Gundam VS. Extreme = this generation's Rogue Galaxy :lol
distantmantra
Member
Gundam is awesome.
Awesome is Gundam.
Awesome is Gundam.
Are you saying GVG is a mostly generic and forgettable RPG?
No, this
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76953
1 PS2 Rogue Galaxy ：238,000
2 DS Mario Kart DS ：219,000
3 PS2 Ryu Ga Gotoku : 135,000
4 DS Animal Crossing ：121,000 (577,000)
5 PS2 Momotaro ：65,000
6 DS Pokemon Dungeon ：64,000 (273,000)
7 PS2 Biohazard 4 ：64,000 (307,000)
8 PSP Monster Hunter PSP ：63,000 (177,000)
9 GBA Pokemon Dungeon ：62,000 (271,000)
10 DS Tamagotchi ：48,000 (473,000)
Hardware Number From Media Create
DS 299,328
PSP 86,403
PS2 45,893
Xbox360 43,970
GC 12,212
GBASP 10,456
GBM 8,326
GBA 396
Xbox 164
This time, with numbers doubled for the first two?
thestopsign
Member
Would be sorta ridiculous if Zelda actually fell behind Kirby and others this week.
Looks like it did, though. /: Now I see what the big deal was. Japan doesn't like Zelda anymore.
TheNatural
My Member!
Looks like it did, though. /: Now I see what the big deal was. Japan doesn't like consoles anymore.
Fixed.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Confirmation that Capcom is shipping just 420,000 copies of MH3G (300,000 for the game on its own, 100,000 for the Slide Pad bundle, and 20,000 for the 3DS system bundle)
http://andriasang.com/comz6o/mh3g_shipment/
That is not enough, plain and simple. I predict mass shortages.
http://andriasang.com/comz6o/mh3g_shipment/
That is not enough, plain and simple. I predict mass shortages.
AceBandage
Banned
I just don't understand why they're doing it.
It can't be because Nintendo isn't giving them enough.
They both know how much the game can and should sell...
Bizarre...
It can't be because Nintendo isn't giving them enough.
They both know how much the game can and should sell...
Bizarre...
Exterminieren
Banned
Whipping up hype through artificial shortages, maybe?
A new big batch of stock on shelves when Vita arrives would be evil.
A new big batch of stock on shelves when Vita arrives would be evil.
Maybe it doesn't have enough pre-orders to warrant a larger shipment?
Chris already posted this earlier in the thread, the original source is Sinobi.
frankie_baby
Member
Could it just be misinformation capcom is putting out to try and make people think there'll be shortages so they're more likely to pre order or go hunting for it?
Their own forecasts calls for 1m sold through by March/April of 2012 right? Shipping near half a milli in the first shipment sounds exactly like they are shipping not expecting anything but 1m by March/April.
AceBandage
Banned
Which is crazy.
I mean, we've seen hardware sales being boosted simply because of this game as it is.
And with the Holiday season out, we're going to see software hitting big.
Sinobi is a reliable source, so I'd say it's an accurate shipment figure. Doesn't preclude the notion that they're ready to ship more copies when needed, though.
As others have suggested they probably just want to avoid a MHTri Wii situation. Also not unusual for Capcom to do weird stuff with MH shipments.
Sadly, they seem to think that MH3 underperformed because it was on a Nintendo platform. :/ That seems like a strong hint that this was only done for the moneyhat, and that Capcom intends for the Nintendo exclusivity of the franchise to be temporary. They probably would have shipped twice as mich if this were a Vita launch title.
Cosmonaut X
Member
It's really quite interesting.
Is it some kind of manufacturing issue? A deliberate ploy to whip up excitement? Retailers playing it cool after Tri's overstocking and being unsure of the series on 3DS? Lack of preorders?
It's going to be a really fascinating one to watch, and I'm sure that the performance of the game - either way - will be a GAF football for a while to come.
Is it some kind of manufacturing issue? A deliberate ploy to whip up excitement? Retailers playing it cool after Tri's overstocking and being unsure of the series on 3DS? Lack of preorders?
It's going to be a really fascinating one to watch, and I'm sure that the performance of the game - either way - will be a GAF football for a while to come.
airmangataosenai
Member
Capcom just doesn't have a clue when it comes to shipping their own games. MH3 was them being overconfident, MHP3 was them being overly cautious, and then there's shit like Lost Planet 2 where they flooded retail with a game no one wanted and it almost instantly was thrown into the bargain bin.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Production runs for big carts, particular those with large amounts of r/w memory, don't come cheap - things I'd expect to be true for any MH title. Overestimating demand could be a costly mistake for Capcom, so I'm not entirely surprised they are seemingly erring on the side of caution.
This way -> full shelves with MHtriG on 17.Dec. to advertice 3DS during Vita launch.
I think it has more to do with both Capcom and Nintendo beeing a bit more cautious in the beginning, since they don`t know if the current userbase is that much into MH and also because of possible hardware shortages that could slow down MHTriG sales-potential and its potential as a long-term seller if the game is way overshipped.
I think it has more to do with both Capcom and Nintendo beeing a bit more cautious in the beginning, since they don`t know if the current userbase is that much into MH and also because of possible hardware shortages that could slow down MHTriG sales-potential and its potential as a long-term seller if the game is way overshipped.
airmangataosenai
Member
Nearly 2 million people have bought 3DSs since the announcement and they've sold.... probably significantly under 2 million pieces of software since then (The best-selling game isn't even at 1/3 of that total yet). I'd wager at least 1 million of those sales came from people who bought the system with nothing in mind but playing this game.
This. Maybe the demand just isn't there.
thestopsign
Member
I don't think they have quite sold 2 mil since September. This is from the week 36, the week of the announcement.
HARDWARE
Code:
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| PS3 | 64.786 | 33.831 | 19.907 | 917.300 | 1.017.094 | 7.004.790 |
| 3DS | 49.076 | 54.744 | | [B]1.776.605[/B] | | 1.776.605 |
| PSP # | 25.404 | 30.199 | 31.570 | 1.451.576 | 1.452.949 | 18.101.788 |
| WII | 10.743 | 11.606 | 15.031 | 478.925 | 1.015.473 | 11.758.560 |
| NDS # | 4.890 | 5.710 | 39.749 | 575.635 | 1.637.347 | 32.726.335 |
| PS2 | 1.386 | 1.394 | 1.363 | 55.954 | 60.012 | 21.752.046 |
| 360 | 1.219 | 1.228 | 2.915 | 79.564 | 153.564 | 1.500.061 |
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| ALL | 157.504 | 138.712 | 110.535 | 5.335.559 | 5.336.439 | 94.620.185 |
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| DSiLL | 2.882 | 3.177 | 19.076 | 297.409 | 857.360 | 2.244.992 |
| DSi | 1.957 | 2.453 | 16.345 | 258.178 | 618.777 | 5.801.902 |
| DSL | 51 | 80 | 4.328 | 20.048 | 161.210 | 18.093.970 |
| PSPgo | 13 | 7 | 809 | 15.504 | 46.090 | 175.928 |
| PSP | 25.391 | 30.192 | 30.761 | 1.436.072 | 1.406.859 | 17.925.860 |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------We already have had reports about the shipment being too small to meet demand at some stores, especially smaller retailers.
The MH fanbase only took off with the PSP, and maybe a quarter of them "flocked" to Wii.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
sorry - what evidence is of that?!
MH has moved once and the sales went DOWN. If the MH fans are going to flock to 3DS, why are you agreeing with 1.7m sales? Surely we're going to see 4m+ "flock" right?
Even Capcom are revising down, i've no idea why fans are holding onto these crazy numbers.
P.S. I wouldn't take it as guaranteed that MH4 -is- going to 3DS. If the 3G numbers do come in under 1m then it's going to get "Monster Hunter 3"'ed (PS3-->Wii)
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
MH3 wasn't ever actually announced for the PS3, I don't think. I just think it was an assumption people made.
Also, it's still early gen for the 3DS. People expecting MHP2 numbers are dreaming. MH had to build up to those numbers.
I'm sure it'll be popular enough...
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
was done in a smilar-ish way to MH4 , sans trailer.
TGS (year escapes me) - nothing really shown outside the logo and the PS3 logo.
I don't recall anything being shown for MH4 other than the logo at the end of the trailer - and i'd suspect as a common practice that there's a "get out" clause based on how the 3DS/MH3 does.
Again, I still refuse to believe Capcom would walk away from the active PSP market given they could throw out a MH4th or MH3 FINAL and sell 4-5 million copies, money hats or not, there's no real incentive for them to do that and damage the whole "MH-industry". I suspect we'll get a PSP based announcement right after MH3G drops.
that's based on the assumption that X million invested PSP fans are going to buy a new piece of hardware and the -G- variant of a game they've dropped XXXX hours into. I know the argument goes that the fans are MAD CRAZY and will do it all for the new subspecies but the crux of the game is the social aspect - you need a GROUP BUY IN to get the same experience and i don't think it's going to happen.
AGain - i'm predicting 800k sales in Japan. TOTAL. Might go up when it bargain bins, but i think fans and capcom have read this one completely wrong. Victory lap for me in January!
It was actually. Nintendo is clearly the one aggressively going after the series though, I'm sure MH4 will be RE4'd at best.
was done in a smilar-ish way to MH4 , sans trailer.
TGS (year escapes me) - nothing really shown outside the logo and the PS3 logo.
I don't recall anything being shown for MH4 other than the logo - and i'd suspect as a common practice that there's a "get out" clause based on how the 3DS/MH3 does.
Again, I still refuse to believe Capcom would walk away from the active PSP market given they could throw out a MH4th or MH3 FINAL and sell 4-5 million copies, money hats or not, there's no real incentive for them to do that and damage the whole "MH-industry". I suspect we'll get a PSP based announcement right after MH3G drops.
that's based on the assumption that X million invested PSP fans are going to buy a new piece of hardware and the -G- variant of a game they've dropped XXXX hours into. I know the argument goes that the fans are MAD CRAZY and will do it all for the new subspecies but the crux of the game is the social aspect - you need a GROUP BUY IN to get the same experience and i don't think it's going to happen.
AGain - i'm predicting 800k sales in Japan. TOTAL. Might go up when it bargain bins, but i think fans and capcom have read this one completely wrong. Victory lap for me in January!
I'm going to enjoy watching you eat crow.
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
Heh. I stand corrected. Explains a few of the meltdowns in that thread a lot better. I'd not heard of MH outside of MC threads, so it meant as much to me as an announcement that (say) the next Love and Berry was switching platforms.
So yeah, they probably do have an out if MH3D's sales are tepid.
that's based on the assumption that X million invested PSP fans are going to buy a new piece of hardware and the -G- variant of a game they've dropped XXXX hours into. I know the argument goes that the fans are MAD CRAZY and will do it all for the new subspecies but the crux of the game is the social aspect - you need a GROUP BUY IN to get the same experience and i don't think it's going to happen.
AGain - i'm predicting 800k sales in Japan. TOTAL. Might go up when it bargain bins, but i think fans and capcom have read this one completely wrong. Victory lap for me in January!
That's true. Will be an interesting one to watch anyway. XD