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Media Create Sales: Week 48, 2011 (Nov 28 - Dec 04)

Since it was requested last time.. here it is again

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Microsoft is the toothpick Pacman uses to clean Sony from its teeth
 

Takao

Banned
You did say 500K cause I thought you were crazy and 200K would be an achievement.

I'm calling you crazy on this one. ;)

I was originally joking on both predictions, but as time goes on Just Dance Wii might just prove me right, haha.
 

manueldelalas

Time Traveler
I still have no clue what it is that makes everyone think that Retro should make a Zelda game. Is there a real reason, is it that Shiek game rumor, or is it just that you guys thank that everything Retro touches is gold? And for the love of god please tell me it's not about graphics.

For me it's because retro has managed to successfully capture the essential of Metroid and Donkey Kong and made them some of the best games in their respective series.

But seeing the Prime series, I would only want one Zelda game from them, not that the other prime games were bad, but very different ...
 

Dash Kappei

Not actually that important
Ninokuni bye bye
Terrible drop for Zelda. I guess the fact they completely fucked up the shipping ratio between Regular Ed./Remote Plus bundles also played a fairly big role like it had in EU/UK? Are the LE bundles sold out in Japan?
Itadaki uber bomba!

DAT 3DS
 

braves01

Banned
What fantasy world is this where Retro can magically step into a foreign universe and create the end all. What is the last Retro game that won game of the year? That was revolutionary? They are a good developer but there are tons of good developers and several with much more ambitious track records in the last 10 years. Some of the questionable aspects of Zelda, do not necessarily change if Retro is the developer. You think Retro could take the Zelda ip and do as they please? Voice acting? Steam punk?Blood? Boobs? Nope. They would deal with the same bottlenecks the Zelda development team deals with in Japan from the old executive guard (Miyamoto).

You would get a smaller development team with less experience developing a Zelda game. You would probably get something that plays like Darksiders without the M rating and without the voice acting. There is your Retro Zelda.

For the record, I don't want a more "mature" Zelda or god forbid anything that could be construed as steam punk. I only want to see Retro work on Zelda because they have successfully reinterpreted two beloved Nintendo series. The Prime games show they can shake up series convention while remaining true to its spirit. DKCR shows that they can make charming games that don't rely on blood and boobs.

A Team Ninja Zelda would be an amusing abomination though.
 

Fantastical

Death Prophet
Why is it so offensive to want Zelda to be handled by another team? Retro is extremely closely monitored by Miyamoto anyways. I think Retro could do great things with the franchise, as they have shown by their work on Metroid and Donkey Kong.

They are great developers and I typically like great developers working on my favorite franchises, especially when they could possibly add some great new ideas to it.

You would probably get something that plays like Darksiders without the M rating and without the voice acting. There is your Retro Zelda.
Oh okay, well never mind. You seem to be able to traverse between different universes and find different realities. We dodged that bullet.
 

guek

Banned
if a drastic change does need to be made in the zelda development team, give it to EAD Tokyo under the direction of Koizumi. Have Aonuma and his team make a new IP...maybe have them make a new mario game.
 
I think a good Zelda title will sell in Japan even if it's developed by a western dev. Metroid has never sold that well in Japan, and first-person games generally aren't as popular either.
This simply isn't the case.

Shipment data
[FDS] Metroid (Nintendo) 1,040,000
[GB] Metroid II: Return of Samus (Nintendo) 560,000
[SFC] Super Metroid (Nintendo) 710,000

Famitsu sales
[GBA] Metroid Fusion (Nintendo) 155,528
[GC] Metroid Prime (Nintendo) 78,384
[GBA] Metroid: Zero Mission (Nintendo) 85,045
[GBA] Famicom Mini: Metroid (Nintendo) 50,353
[GC] Metroid Prime 2: Dark Echoes (Nintendo) 40,355
[DS] Metroid Prime: Hunters (Nintendo) 90,028
[Wii] Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Nintendo) 74,647
[Wii] Wii de Asobu! Metroid Prime (Nintendo) 20,607
[Wii] Wii de Asobu! Metroid Prime 2: Dark Echoes (Nintendo) 12,427
[Wii] Metroid: Other M (Nintendo) 70,870
 

Jonnyram

Member
PSP sales continue at a good pace. I wonder if people are even ready for Vita or are they just going to stick with PSP. The sales seem kind of high considering a replacement piece of hardware is due in a fortnight. DS was not this high before 3DS, right?
 

Takao

Banned
Imagine how the PSP would be doing if it didn't cost more than a 3DS in Japan...

I'm guessing PSP is still being used as collateral, but instead of PS3, it's for Vita this time.
 

watershed

Banned
PSP sales continue at a good pace. I wonder if people are even ready for Vita or are they just going to stick with PSP. The sales seem kind of high considering a replacement piece of hardware is due in a fortnight. DS was not this high before 3DS, right?

No ds numbers were quite low which might have been one reason why the 3ds was rushed to the market.
 
Seriously?

Nintendo's approach to Zelda is every single thing that's wrong with their company distilled down into one increasingly stale and poorly-executed series. I'd rather they give it a generation-long break as they did with Metroid (and, for that matter, 2D Mario) and maybe try to come back and give it a fresh effort rather than... whatever the hell they're doing now.

I irritate duckroll with this routine all the time, but frankly I think the world would be better off if the Wii U went completely Zelda-free.
 
Nintendo's approach to Zelda is every single thing that's wrong with their company distilled down into one increasingly stale and poorly-executed series. I'd rather they give it a generation-long break as they did with Metroid (and, for that matter, 2D Mario) and maybe try to come back and give it a fresh effort rather than... whatever the hell they're doing now.

I irritate duckroll with this routine all the time, but frankly I think the world would be better off if the Wii U went completely Zelda-free.

After having just waited 5 years between the last major zelda titles and waiting so long to see zelda move onto a HD console i can honestly i hate this idea.
 

Duderz

Banned
Nintendo's approach to Zelda is every single thing that's wrong with their company distilled down into one increasingly stale and poorly-executed series. I'd rather they give it a generation-long break as they did with Metroid (and, for that matter, 2D Mario) and maybe try to come back and give it a fresh effort rather than... whatever the hell they're doing now.

I irritate duckroll with this routine all the time, but frankly I think the world would be better off if the Wii U went completely Zelda-free.

I'd love to hear you elaborate on this some. Is it the presentation, the increase in scenario since OoT, handholding...?
 
Nintendo's approach to Zelda is every single thing that's wrong with their company distilled down into one increasingly stale and poorly-executed series. I'd rather they give it a generation-long break as they did with Metroid (and, for that matter, 2D Mario) and maybe try to come back and give it a fresh effort rather than... whatever the hell they're doing now.

I irritate duckroll with this routine all the time, but frankly I think the world would be better off if the Wii U went completely Zelda-free.

I am so glad your opinion on this is in the tiniest minority. And because it makes no business sense, it will never have to be reality!
 

Anth0ny

Member
Nintendo's approach to Zelda is every single thing that's wrong with their company distilled down into one increasingly stale and poorly-executed series. I'd rather they give it a generation-long break as they did with Metroid (and, for that matter, 2D Mario) and maybe try to come back and give it a fresh effort rather than... whatever the hell they're doing now.

I irritate duckroll with this routine all the time, but frankly I think the world would be better off if the Wii U went completely Zelda-free.

They pretty much exactly did that with Skyward Sword...
 

Emitan

Member
It's pretty sad for gaming when Mario Kart, a Nintendo game that shows what's wrong with their company distilled down into one increasingly stale and poorly-executed series that manages to keep on selling.

the face of gaming: ;_;
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r u srs?
 

Emitan

Member
i hope chet will make me an avatar without so many colors (talking about the Top and Raichu one)

i don't want people thinking i'm a kid
 
mario kart is too much fun, imo. could have toned it down a bit.

The single player has such little content. I hate other people, so it doesn't hold much value for me. Oh boy, I unlocked the dead turtle and a robot.

They should take a page from (I can't believe I'm saying this) Diddy Kong Racing and have a single player quest. Or give it to Sakurai, let him snort a bunch of cocaine and put in shitloads of extra content.

To tie this back into the actual topic of the thread, going by sales Mario Kart can clearly just stay the same forever. There's no imperative to change. Zelda, on the other hand, kind of needs to change in some way to recapture the Japanese audience. Maybe it just needs a platform shift, or maybe Nintendo just needs to focus on the West with Zelda. The latter doesn't seem like something Nintendo would do, though. They're far too domestically focused.
 

udivision

Member
I wasn't being serious, but that is "the complaint."
I liked the wording of charlequin's post, even though I don't agree with it so I stole it.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Mario Kart isn't for me, and I'm not that fond of Zelda, but I don't really understand why someone would want the series to halt.

I mean, both series are in half dead sub-genres, and if they go away, their genres will become as comically underserved as half the genres I enjoy.

Ultimately I don't feel it is productive to promote the homogenization of video games and the elimination of specialist products simply because they don't fulfill my specialist interests.

I don't think every product needs to appeal to me, and if that means a series that fills a niche is rather statically adhering to a design I don't like, I don't feel it is necessarily a bad thing.
 

Jonnyram

Member
Or as my pappy use to say:
"It aint broke, don't fix it!"
That's not the same as "it ain't broke, keep rereleasing it for every new piece of hardware you release!"
For some reason, I've always enjoyed the MK games in multiplayer but got bored in single player.
 
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