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Media Create Sales: Week 6, 2012 (Feb 06 - Feb 12)

Nah, I think Hino's going to stick it through. I think Level-5 isn't too pleased they missed the PSP in its prime.

I think it's Capcom. The only thing they have on the publicly known slate is a fighting game port we haven't heard of in months other than the odd mention in the exclusive character reveal trailers.
Level-5 banked so much on DS, I doubt they mind. PSP, PS3 and Wii were afterthoughts, but they really didn't miss much.

It could be Capcom, Ono's teased SFXT 3DS before.
 

kiri

Member
Surprised by Gravity Daze - both by the numbers it sold and by how it failed to shift hardware.

I'm heading up to my local store shortly to pick up Theatrhythm. I will try and get some information on how New Love Plus etc. did.
 

test_account

XP-39C²
Capcom has never announced when the Vita version will be released.
Ah ok, i see. Although, Capcom did release a video a few weeks back where it says that the exclusive characters (Mega Man 1 and Pacman) are both coming to PS3 and Vita. The Nikkei article talks like the cancelation has already happened.
 
haha lol - okay, you go ahead and put it back up and go with -you guys- take on what it is and what it's saying and how important it is . Run with it!

hell, one suggestion was that Nintendos stock price was rising because of the article

oh, and remember - this is effectively a source reporting a source who had a Big Publisher source. No one named. <sprks> INDUSTRY SOURCES </sprks>

lol - ironically, i'm giving training today ... in Japanese. I'm going to get boo'ed and pelted with fruit from start to finish aren't I? The ultimate irony would be if the subject matter was related to Nikkei, but alas - not this time.
I asked some fluent mods to take a look and they'll decide what to do with the article, but really if you weren't sure about your translation you shouldn't have posted with such certainty.

Ah ok, i see. Although, Capcom did release a video a few weeks back where it says that the exclusive characters (Mega Man 1 and Pacman) are both coming to PS3 and Vita. The Nikkei article talks like the cancelation has already happened.

What if anything does Namco have planned for Vita? Lukewarm reception to Innocence may have been a catalyst.
 

Takao

Banned
Level-5 banked so much on DS, I doubt they mind. PSP, PS3 and Wii were afterthoughts, but they really didn't miss much.

It could be Capcom, Ono's teased SFXT 3DS before.

I really don't think it's Level-5. There's no reason for them to cancel Time Travelers for example since it's a port of a game that could use the help of every platform available. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if LBX (which IIRC you thought would continue on Vita) wound up on 3DS.

What if anything does Namco have planned for Vita? Lukewarm reception to Innocence may have been a catalyst.

They have a Gundam game that would be stupid to cancel given it was supposedly close to completion. They also announced token "Series blah blah blah" at TGS.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
What if anything does Namco have planned for Vita? Lukewarm reception to Innocence may have been a catalyst.

Come on, now.

ToI R was a remake of a not so big selling Tales of, so it's obvious it wouldn't ever done big numbers.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
asked some fluent mods to take a look and they'll decide what to do with the article, but really if you weren't sure about your translation you shouldn't have posted with such certainty.

let me clarify this - i was and am confident in my translation, however - i'm not going to claim to be fluent/native because that's not the case.

DCharlie you dun goofed.

lol, at this point "you guys" want it to be important - it isn't, but go ahead . I mean - if a VP at a company says something , then it has to be spot on 100% right !

DCharlie isn't exactly the most objective commentator,

lol what? Look - this is getting stupid now.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Are people expecting a hardware bump next week for 3DS due to love+?

I'd say more Love Plus and Theatrhythm combined. And Love Plus bundles. Next week, 3DS will be over 5 millions in a good way, probably.
 

Erethian

Member
I'd say more Love Plus and Theatrhythm combined. And Love Plus bundles. Next week, 3DS will be over 5 millions in a good way, probably.

Love Plus bundles were sold through Konami Style, so wouldn't show up in Famitsu/Media Create tracking, I don't think.
 

test_account

XP-39C²
What if anything does Namco have planned for Vita? Lukewarm reception to Innocence may have been a catalyst.
I dont think that the sales expectations for that game was very high.

Personally i dont think that is any of the big publishers that we think of (Bandai Namco, Sega, Konami etc. etc.). And afterall, there is no confirmation on it, so it is kinda just a rumor so far.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Hi, I just wanted to briefly comment on why I locked that other thread. The first reason was because it was a non-English article posted with a machine translation and pretty inflammatory contents. We've always discouraged people from doing this. duckroll has been pretty active in the past in smacking people who post, for example, incorrect 2ch rumours that they've auto-translated. In the future I'd recommend definitely avoiding posting auto-translated stuff out of context. Instead, if you think it's a big deal, PM a GAF member who you expect is a) fluent in the language and b) culturally aware enough to pick up on any context clues about the source (for example last time around there was some debate about the relative importance or reputation of Nikkei vs Nikkei Trendy and Nirolak ended up changing the thread title like half a dozen times to strike the right balance).

The second reason was because it was brought to my attention by another regular GAF member who is fluent in Japanese and pointed out that it was an opinion piece, not a news story. DCharlie's post had nothing to do with it.

If someone provided an accurate translation and the thread was posted with the correct tone, noting that it's an opinion piece and noting who the opinion piece is by or what the source's credibility is, there's nothing theoretically wrong with a rumour thread and it would be okay to repost.

Personally it's not to my taste and I feel like GAF is in general quite a bit swamped with minor Vita news that largely devolves into a bunch of unproductive "Typical GAF Vita FUD Vita rules you can't Uncharted on your Apple Shit Fon!!!!" versus "Wow Vita really is doomed sell your Sony stock can't wait to buy one for $24 next week" level stuff. It's getting really shrill to hear a bunch of the same people flippantly dismiss one another and go aggro. That's not to suggest that that thread was that, simply that the risk of any Vita thread becoming that is so high right now that it's important to get it right from the OP.

Normally we leave notes when we lock threads unless the existing replies in the thread do a good job of representing the reason (for example if someone posts a dupe thread and the first replier replies with "dupe thread" and a link, we don't need to explain that it's locked because it's a dupe thread). I thought that the initial replies adequately contextualized the situation. Sorry if that was an incorrect assessment.

Meta-talk about another thread being locked doesn't really have anything to do with M-C so posts after this one on the subject will be deleted. If you have any feedback please PM a mod including me. Thanks.
 

Erethian

Member
I dont think that the sales expectations for that game was very high.

Personally i dont think that is any of the big publishers that we think of (Bandai Namco, Sega, Konami etc. etc.). And afterall, there is no confirmation on it, so it is kinda just a rumor so far.

Plus it's hard to cancel and move a game when you don't have much of note announced to begin with.
 
What if anything does Namco have planned for Vita? Lukewarm reception to Innocence may have been a catalyst.

Future lineups for the big Japanese publishers:

Capcom
-Street Fighter X Tekken

Konami
-Kojima Productions title
-Metal Gear Solid HD Edition
-New Little King's Story
-Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2012
-Silent Hill: Book of Memories
-Zone of the Enders HD Edition

Level 5
-RPG
-Time Travelers

Namco Bandai
-Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny
-Super Robot Taisen

Sega
-Samurai & Dragons
-Super Monkey Ball: Banana Splitz

Square Enix
-Final Fantasy X HD

Tecmo Koei
-Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus
 
Solid opening numbers for Gravity Daze. Like Toyama said on twitter, he wants this to be a long selling kind of game.

In my 20 hours with it, I'd say this is the type of quality that people would buy long past the launch window because it's just a damn great game, regardless of when it was released.

Hopefully the DLC gives it some legs as well.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
Someone suggested the canceled game could be SFvT for Vita? That would be pretty shady after the footage and features they've been showing.

assuming that the game is built on MT-f, surely it would just make more sense to announce a 3DS version -as well- ?

Or for any of the games? it's one of the big differences this time around - DS v PSP was difficult because the DS wasn't really up to doing 3D gaming to the same level and whilst the Vita is a more powerful machine, capcom have shown that you can get perfectly gorgeous 3D games running on the 3DS. So Vita->3DS games could certainly happen.

Anyways, glad the thread lock was clarified as well. Thanks
 

Kazerei

Banned
Surprised by Gravity Daze - both by the numbers it sold and by how it failed to shift hardware.

I'm heading up to my local store shortly to pick up Theatrhythm. I will try and get some information on how New Love Plus etc. did.

Please do! It'll also be interesting to see how well Tekken 3D Prime does...
 
Pretty sure the 3DS would cope fine with Morrowind.

Hmmm. On which note, this needs to happen.

It's as if open world games didn't exist until this generation or something.

Speaking of which, a 3DS Assassin's Creed needs to happen. The Animus loading area would be nutty in 3D.

gravity daze did really well. it's weird that it didn't keep vita's sales at least steady.

Easy answer is that everyone who was interested in the game already owned a Vita in anticipation, but who knows if that's accurate or not?
 
What makes you say that? And on what subject(s) do you mean that he isnt objective?

I think that's referring to his notorious predictions about MH3G being a huge flop on a Nintendo handheld, but it's a moot issue anyway since apparently that was not the impetus for the lock.

Future lineups for the big Japanese publishers:

Capcom
-Street Fighter X Tekken

Konami
-Kojima Productions title
-Metal Gear Solid HD Edition
-New Little King's Story
-Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2012
-Silent Hill: Book of Memories
-Zone of the Enders HD Edition

Level 5
-RPG
-Time Travelers

Namco Bandai
-Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny
-Super Robot Taisen

Sega
-Samurai & Dragons
-Super Monkey Ball: Banana Splitz

Square Enix
-Final Fantasy X HD

Tecmo Koei
-Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus

Based on this I'd guess it's Sega, Level 5, or possibly Namco. I don't see Tecmo pulling that lonely port of a port, ditto for Square. Konami has no reason to pull the HD remakes and they seem pretty invested in the platform already.
 

guek

Banned
Why oh why did Sony launch late? Imagine the difference in sales had the Vita launched alongside the 3DS. Again, I wish I could look into the multi-verse and see what would have happened.
 

AniHawk

Member
Why oh why did Sony launch late? Imagine the difference in sales had the Vita launched alongside the 3DS. Again, I wish I could look into the multi-verse and see what would have happened.
well who wouldn't be excited to see two high-priced, ill-prepared handhelds launching against each other?
 

Kazerei

Banned
Is Vita losing developer support already? Sony responds

In a story that went up on Nikkei's website today, written by Kiyoshi Shin, the head of Japan's IGDA branch, an unnamed source from the Japanese game industry says that "Major Japanese companies are canceling all projects intended for the Vita and are changing development to the 3DS."

"I did not see that quote, but you see extremist quotes like that all the time," says Rohde, who spoke to Gamasutra about the incipient launch of the Vita in North America.

"I mean, obviously, there is no way anyone could stand in front of a camera and say that all developers are changing focus from one platform to another, no matter what it is."

Rohde went on to say that his guess is that it's "largely exaggerated. I know many, many, many third party developers and publishers are feverishly working on Vita titles, not just for now, but for the foreseeable future."

It might not be literally true, but does it hint at a real trend? "No, I absolutely haven't heard," says Rohde.

EDIT: There's more in the full article by the way
 

guek

Banned
lol, I don't think any other response would be possible at this point.

E3 is going to be fun times. Sony better come out guns blazing. I also hope nintendo doesn't grow complacent, even if they do have Pokemon, the best selling portable video game franchise of all time.
 
lol, I don't think any other response would be possible at this point.

E3 is going to be fun times. Sony better come out guns blazing. I also hope nintendo doesn't grow complacent, even if they do have Pokemon, the best selling portable video game franchise of all time.

Sony isn't Nintendo's biggest competition in the handheld gaming arena(at least on a worldwide basis) so I don't think you have to worry about them getting complacent.
 

Dalthien

Member
gravity daze did really well. it's weird that it didn't keep vita's sales at least steady.

It's not really that weird. It only sold 40k (plus PSN), not 150k or 200k. There are all kinds of games that sell 40k that don't push hardware. Especially a new IP with unusual mechanics and low brand awareness.
 
I'll say this: If it was just an opinion piece, or a mistranslation, Sony wouldn't have a reason to comment. At all. They did, though. And in a way that doesn't even really refute the original article. That's kinda worrisome.

While responding to the piece like that does raise an eyebrow, there are a couple of things worth considering:

-- This isn't Sony coming out independently with a release refuting the article. They are - I assume - being pressed by Gamasutra on this and are responding.

-- We're on the eve of the Western launch and the last thing Sony will want is any hint - even if this story is absolute bunk - that there is any hesitation or reversal from third parties.

That said, I don't think that this story is quite as straightforward as "extremist quotes" would suggest. Iwata was very clear about a similar issue when it came to the crunch point for the 3DS last year - developers were wavering on 3DS development and they had to do something to reassure them, and to make the system more appealing. If that was happening with the 3DS, with all of Nintendo's big guns unreleased and coming off the back of the DS, then I would not be at all surprised if there was something similar brewing for the Vita.

The question is: if Sony are being faced with nervous publishers - as Nintendo were - what can they do to keep them on board?
 
You say this, but how many major Western PS360 releases for late 2012 can you name that have a Vita SKU confirmed?
Handhelds are basically irrelevant and the Vita isn't even launched yet (again, worldwide here). Sure the Wii might not receive every third party multiplatform title, but are you really doubting that it won't get the majority? Add to the fact that Nintendo is aggressively courting third parties, they need it for the Wii-U, while Sony seems fine to let their new consoles dangle in the wind.
 

Kazerei

Banned
I'll say this: If it was just an opinion piece, or a mistranslation, Sony wouldn't have a reason to comment. At all. They did, though. And in a way that doesn't even really refute the original article. That's kinda worrisome.

Well, the Nikkei article seems to be an opinion piece or column or analysis. But it was written by the head of Japan's IGDA branch. Soooo, yeah.
 
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