StreetsAhead
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The link was posted to their FB page last Thursday, too.
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Media Create Sales: Week 8, 2013 (Feb 18 - Feb 24)
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The link was posted to their FB page last Thursday, too.
Why do so many people here say 'sells' instead of 'sales'. Is there a joke I missed?
It's not a matter of not buying studios, they just have a very simple criteria now: keep the talent on-board and ensure the talent is happy being under Nintendo's umbrella.
Monolith met this criteria and thus were bought in full. Nothing saying that it can't happen again, but in the West, something like that is near impossible.
The circumstances weren't that unique, and your conjecture is (from what I recall) the opposite of what was happening.
As the story goes, Tetsuya Takahashi and Iwata are actually REALLY good friends, Takahashi ASKED Iwata about the possibility of working under Nintendo's banner and Bandai Namco released controlling shares of Monolith to Nintendo for an undisclosed price.
At that time, Bandai Namco still held stake in Monolith Soft (hence them making games published by Bandai Namco, likely part of the share sale agreement), all the way up until 2011, when Bandai Namco sold the remainder to Nintendo. After 2011, Monolith Soft has made no games for another publisher.
Iwata has a LOT of close friends in Japan. This is likely not the last we have seen of a developer buyout.
As others have said, every previous NSMB release had been mid-generation. It doesn't sell systems, it's an easy sell to an existing userbase.
StreetsAhead
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metalslimer
Member
Nintendo put out their projections for the year and these sales were certainly not expected based on those projections. They looked at the November and December sales and thought they would be able to sustain themselves for a few months before the reality set in.
Good to see next level might have a sustained relationship with Nintendo. Nintendo should many many more of these types of western relationships though. And they should not all be focused on making Nintendo IPs that Nintendo doesn't have the staff to make.
They seem extremely reticent to hire much outside Japan but they need to. Become more international, build teams with Western tastes but guide them with Nintendo flair. I guarantee if Nintendo did a core FPS type of game it'd be something fresh in some way.
Keep doing the casual and flagship titles but broaden. There's a lot of genres/styles left untapped by Nintendo.
ambientmystic
Member
The day Nintendo sells out to the COD gamer is the day they die in a lot of gamers' hearts lol. I'm glad they're staying the fuck away from that genre. We have enough Western FPSs to last us a lifetime.
shinra-bansho
Member
I'm not sure why everyone is saying this now as if it was plainly obvious and they've been saying it all along.
I was lambasted for suggesting as such just 4 weeks ago.
The question now becomes:-
1) are there any singular titles that will significantly move systems; rather than being a title that people who buy the system consolidate towards
or in lieu of that...
2) will the collective titles be enough to move systems.
StreetsAhead
Member
I suggested that before launch and got a similar reaction.
If Nintendo ever does an FPS, it will be an amazing game yet still have that Nintendo charm with it, I'm sure of that. But I think they're going to tap into the RPG/action-adventure game genre moreso than an FPS for the foreseeable future.
Doesn't Metroid Prime count? That worked out pretty well.
When a pair of games sell upwards of 55 million copies globally, it's generally illogical to bet against them being popular enough to sell people the systems they're on. I think the folks who expected it to not be a system-seller were betting more with their hearts than their heads; it just happened they were right this time.
The NSMB phenomenon was a strange one.
shinra-bansho
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Prior to the release of the Wii U my bets were hedged - I thought it could potentially move systems. But at the same time thought it was unclear how much it had simply sold to the userbase of the system (Wii) vs. how much it had sold the system to the potential userbase.
After the launch though it became more clear.
But some people were still adamant it was a "system seller" rather than just a title that people were gravitating towards as they bought the system. Despite that systems really weren't selling that well.
That is not to say it isn't a potential reason for people to buy the system, nor that the system sales wouldn't be even worse without it. But in my mind a "system seller" should be able to spur significant sales, otherwise every game is essentially a system seller.
perfectchaos007
Member
Do we still not have a chalkboard for the WiiU?
Goldeneye was extremely innovative and fresh when it came out. In retrospect, it's mind boggling that such an influential first person shooter came out of one of Nintendo's western studios. In fact, the N64 completely dominated its generation against the Saturn and PSX when it came to FPS games both in terms of Rare's Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, but even third party games like Turok. Nintendo has had one of it's studios make a popular FPS before, but it's hard to imagine the modern day Nintendo ever making a game like that.
I hear ya, but I include most first person games released this gen as FPS as they all have tonnes of shooting.
Didn't they already have the third party direct?
Oh. You mean WiiU. Oh.
LOL.
Yes Wii U, I actually can't think of any third party games outside of old ports that they could announce.
ambientmystic
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StreetsAhead
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PSV Senran Kagura limited edition. Sold out.
It's almost at the point where the availability of any third party game becomes something that is worth an "announcement."
It's still very early, and I don't mind sitting back and waiting to see what they'll do. But they have, as of now, done next to nothing to explain how the system will be supported with a wide library of software over the next two years.
They're hyped to see how Layton ends.
electroplankton
Banned
Funny to see how, some weeks before its launch, no one thought Animal Crossing would have sold so much, let alone move hardware. All peopoe were saying "look at NSMB2! look at BT! No way AC will replicate DS craziness!"; neither Nintendo was expecting so much, reports of the first shipment were 200k units. Result? It's one of the fastest selling games ever in Japan, and it's moving hardware FOUR months after the launch. Just saying.
No one buys a console for one game only.
Ahhh, yes, forgot that freak of nature for a second. Y'know, what with the 3 different publishers and countless IPs involved and all.
timetokill
Banned
Wii Sports.
I have zero faith in Nintendo to deliver anything of significance anymore.
I used to for Zelda. But after the shafting I got on Wii overall and this atrocious Wii U launch and zero third party support of any real calibre I'm not going to be suckered in again.
electroplankton
Banned
Someone said that? lol
NSMB helped DS in being so popular in the West, and NSMB Wii revived Wii in late 2009. I mean, titles that sell above 25mln units are system sellers.
BishopLamont
Banned
Animal Crossing, Monster Hunter, Wii Sports, Wii Fit, NSMB, Brain Age.
Yes even NSMBU. Games that are still selling units months after releases at launch are system sellers.
I bought a Wii U just for MH3U.
electroplankton
Banned
Fifa? Call of Duty? I had classmates that had a 360 only for the annual release of Those two games.
AdventureRacing
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I don't remember anyone really saying that about AC. You keep bringing this up but i'd like to see the threads where people were saying that cause i sure don't remember it.
Lololololol.. you've made SmokyDave really happy with those pictures
I won't lie, I got a little giddy when I read the sign.
Bruno MB
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perfectchaos007
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The fastest selling system to cross 10 million mark in Japan was NDS (89 weeks).
Given the drastic industry shift in favor of mobile gaming that occurred between the DS cycle and the 3DS cycle, it's impressive how close the 3DS is tracking to DS. The strategy isn't working quite as well in the Americas but the system is still selling adequately.
Opus Angelorum
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I paid £175 for a Gamecube just to play Resident Evil 4. I bought no other games for it.
BishopLamont
Banned
That reminds me, I bought a Gamecube just to play WW, even though the Gamecube and the game was like $120. I played solely on the PS2.
electroplankton
Banned
Just look at the predictions about AC sales by Gaf posters, that were made after we had some signs of a possible bigger success. Now I don't have the graph here, but the guy who usually organizes the bets does, and he posted last week I think.
No one, I repeat, no one was expecting AC to have such a big success.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
How? Gamecube had already reached its bomba bin £79.99 price in 2003, and RE4 was released in 2005. Did you buy a console 3-4 years in advance and then not buy any games at all for it until RE4? If so I hope WE LEARNED A LESSON, YOUNG MAN.
DR2K
Banned
You must have been thrilled when they announced the PS2 version they said wasn't going to happen.
Opus Angelorum
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Yeah I think I had bought it a year or so before the release. I had lots of money back then.
And I didn't learn the lesson, I bought a PS3 for £425
I still wanted the Gamecube version, much better controller.
perfectchaos007
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I got 3 people to buy the gamecube for just one game. Two of them bought the system just for Super Monkey Ball 2, and another friend bought one just for Animal Crossing. I was the ultimate Nintendo proselytizer back in teh day