Mellon Collie, the Infinite Sadness, and the state of rock and roll 30 years later.

Please use this thread to recommend quality modern rock and roll made in the last 10 years or so.

You can also discuss the 30th anniversary of Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, The Smashing Pumpkins' epic double album released 30 years ago as of last month. A special anniversary edition was released today, which also includes live performances from their 1996 supporting tour.





So what is this album to you? What was it then, and what is it now? Did you like it then? Do you like it now? For those who have children, have you introduced this album or other music from the time to your kids? How did that go?
 
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I think American rock is in a sad state. Rap and country swept a lot of it away. The heavy metal scene got infested with emo punks, damn near every song is about personal trauma and sorrow. Almost every band sounds the same with whiney soft singers or cookie monster incomphrehensibility.

Europe fared much better, preserving the full range of singing and music. They still sing about dragons, space battles, or getting laid, rather than depression, drug use, and contemplating suicide.

But the tide may be turning. The 80s guys are now almost all gone but still crush it with massive arena shows. Asia has their new wave of baby metal, we got bands like Parkland Drive, and I see new garage bands on Instagram, so there is a way to get paid again without being trapped by the stranglehold of clear channel.

We just need jay-z to lose the superbowl half time music rights so we can get some variety back.
 
A hell of an album that released when I was in 8th grade, 13 years old.

I went to this ritzy titzy upper middle class school. If you hadn't listened to, or weren't familiar with Siamese Dream and fell in love with "Zero" or "Bullet With Butterfly Wings", you were immediately considered a poser and "not a true fan."

It took awhile for me to get my own copy because my mom was ignorantly strict on some of the music I listened to. It finally took a few rounds of "Tonight, Tonight" to convince her they were a "safe" rock n roll band. Believe me, it was tough to convince this woman when Billy is singing -

"Emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness
And cleanliness is godliness, and God is empty
Just like me"

...on the way to school in the morning :messenger_grinning_smiling:
 
I thought it was good, although not as special to me as Siamese Dream, Gish, and Pisces Iscariot. I usually end up skipping through a lot of the album to get to the stuff I like.

I'm way more into their heavier up-tempo stuff. Jellybelly is my favorite song on the album (maybe my top Pumpkins song). Ode to No One, X.Y.U., and Muzzle are the other real stand-outs for me.

All the singles (Bullet with Butterfly Wings, 1979, Tonight Tonight, Zero) are great but they were sooooo overplayed. I can do with hearing those songs once per year and I'm good.




Also whenever Bullet with Butterfly Wings plays on satellite radio, it shows up on the display as "Bullet with Butt" and my kids get a big kick out of it.
 
That's one of many albums that my older brother had. He's 5 years older than me and had an amazing catalog of alt rock CDs in the mid-90s that shaped my taste in music. I was too young to buy any of them myself--didn't have money at that age--but I was able to listen to them at my leisure until he started driving, at which point they stayed in his car in a huge CD binder (remember those?).

As for new rock made in the last decade: my wife is a big fan of Badflower. I don't love their vibe/lyrics, but they do put out some decent stuff that sounds like it's straight from 2002. It's refreshing to hear new stuff that sounds like that these days.

I've also recently gotten into Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds, his post-Oasis band. I like some of their songs more than anything in the Oasis catalog, and I'm a big Oasis fan.

The Dying of the Light:



Riverman:

 
I'm a Pumpkins fan to this day. MCaTIS blew up when it came out and was played everywhere from school dances, to radio, to movies. Looking back, it seems like the industry pushed it heavily more than it organically catching on. No other Pumpkins album caught on like it, either. They sort of got lost in the push of Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson, but have hung on all these years, or at least Billy Corgan has. 😅
 
I was 10 years late to The Smashing Pumpkins. I found them through that Simpsons Lollapalooza episode and the local alt rock radio station in the mid-2000s.

I collected a bunch of SP CDs and got Mellon Collie as a Christmas gift. I remember listening to it on a portable CD player while at the extended family Xmas get-together.

There are some great tracks on MCATIS. My favorites are:
Jellybelly (probably my top favorite)
Zero
Cupid de Locke
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans (the Zwan analogue of this Mary Star of the Sea is great, too)
Bodies
Tales of a Scorched Earth
XYU

The rest are okay/good but I felt like they covered similar ground as each other (from what I remember).
 
Please use this thread to recommend quality modern rock and roll made in the last 10 years or so.

You can also discuss the 30th anniversary of Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, The Smashing Pumpkins' epic double album released 30 years ago as of last month. A special anniversary edition was released today, which also includes live performances from their 1996 supporting tour.





So what is this album to you? What was it then, and what is it now? Did you like it then? Do you like it now? For those who have children, have you introduced this album or other music from the time to your kids? How did that go?


The Smashing Pumpkins are still in My Top Five
 
For newer stuff, I glommed on to Dynasty from James Gunn on Peacemaker.

I challenge anyone to listen to this and NOT wanna go hit the gym or go build a bridge or something.



Another one off Peacemaker is Diemonds. I dig a chick singer that isnt trying to out croak the guys.

 
Smashing Pumpkins is here nor there for me. The songs of theirs I like are few and far between. My brother bought me Siamese Dream. I do kind of dislike that double album because 1979 (terrible song) was our senior class song, even though we graduated in 96 which means most were born in '78 which irritates me to no end. To a much lesser extent, it reminds me of Pearl Jam and Jeremy which couldn't be escaped in my middle school days. I think that's the singular reason why I never really got into Pearl Jam (and, to be clear, they are infinitely more talented than Smashing Pumpkins). I haven't listened to Ava Adore in a while, but I do remember appreciating how much of a departure it was for me.

I'm not sure I could tell a band of the last ten years. I don't listen to the radio or streaming services, so my exposure to new music is mostly via what is played in stores which is easy to tune out.
 
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