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Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of The Patriots 2.0 |OT| Kept you waiting, huh?
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whalleywhat
Member
This was a dick move.
Ein Bear
Member
Haha ahh right, got ya! Good luck
The thing I love/hate about Metal Gear's storyline is that they always do something that sort of makes sense, and is a kinda cool way of tying stuff in the series together... but then they add an extra twist that sends it back into batshit. Off the top of my head (there's probably loads more):
- In MGS3, you have to rescue Sokolov, the designer of the Shagohod, an early prototype for what would become Metal Gear! ...Except the Shagohod doesn't actually have anything to do with Metal Gears, which are a whole seperate project, helmed by a different guy.
- The events of MGS2 are similar to MGS1 on purpose! The whole thing was a set-up to see if a soldier could be molded into a guy like Solid Snake! ...Except it wasn't, that's just what the Patriots wanted Solidus to think.
- After losing his arm in MGS1, Ocelot, son of spirit medium The Sorrow, slowly becomes consumed by the spirit of Liquid Snake! ...Except he wasn't really, he was faking it with nanomachines to trick everyone. Also he replaced Liquid's arm with a robot one, because why the hell not.
- The events of MGS2 are similar to MGS1 on purpose! The whole thing was a set-up to see if a soldier could be molded into a guy like Solid Snake! ...Except it wasn't, that's just what the Patriots wanted Solidus to think.
- After losing his arm in MGS1, Ocelot, son of spirit medium The Sorrow, slowly becomes consumed by the spirit of Liquid Snake! ...Except he wasn't really, he was faking it with nanomachines to trick everyone. Also he replaced Liquid's arm with a robot one, because why the hell not.
In my head, my own private canon is always the twist before the final, second twist. The series makes more sense that way.
xKilltheMx
Member
Haha ahh right, got ya! Good luck
The thing I love/hate about Metal Gear's storyline is that they always do something that sort of makes sense, and is a kinda cool way of tying stuff in the series together... but then they add an extra twist that sends it back into batshit. Off the top of my head (there's probably loads more):
- In MGS3, you have to rescue Sokolov, the designer of the Shagohod, an early prototype for what would become Metal Gear! ...Except the Shagohod doesn't actually have anything to do with Metal Gears, which are a whole seperate project, helmed by a different guy.
- The events of MGS2 are similar to MGS1 on purpose! The whole thing was a set-up to see if a soldier could be molded into a guy like Solid Snake! ...Except it wasn't, that's just what the Patriots wanted Solidus to think.
- After losing his arm in MGS1, Ocelot, son of spirit medium The Sorrow, slowly becomes consumed by the spirit of Liquid Snake! ...Except he wasn't really, he was faking it with nanomachines to trick everyone. Also he replaced Liquid's arm with a robot one, because why the hell not.
In my head, my own private canon is always the twist before the final, second twist. The series makes more sense that way.
I have to agree. But I think the reason Kojima does it is -
because he hates us. =p
giancarlo123x
Banned
Is it just me or is it taking forever to download the ipod songs?
Lumpy Onion
Member
Mine went by at an average of 30 seconds per song. I am wired BTW.
And I can't believe I just bought a PS3 headset just to hear Otacon in my ears.
Nope, pretty fast tbh. Wireless here.
That's one of my favorite arcs for some reason, I think it's because it really feels like he is a detective
plus the fact that you have young snake mask at that moment, such a tease
giancarlo123x
Banned
Damn then I guess its just me. I downloaded the patch in like 20 mins but some songs are up to 5 mins. This is getting annoying.
Deadly Monk
Banned
Why is this not on the PS Store as a digital download? Is there a reason after all these years? Has it ever been brought up in an interview?
Net_Wrecker
Member
I can't believe I just installed a FULL INSTALL for MGS4 in 2012. I never thought this day would be here. Can't start my replay right now, but I'm hype.
Yeah the movement and gameplay options in this are impressive and VERY underrated. I hope MGS5 expands it even more and gives us more time with the mechanics. More than any other in the series, I thought MGS4 was in desperate need of VR missions.
Yeah the movement and gameplay options in this are impressive and VERY underrated. I hope MGS5 expands it even more and gives us more time with the mechanics. More than any other in the series, I thought MGS4 was in desperate need of VR missions.
Napalm_Frank
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Ok this is one part that everyone seems to say it went like this but this is how I understood it: Ocelot indeed was posessed by Liquid in MGS2 by the hand and maybe because of The Sorrow stuff. At some point before MGS4 he cut off the hand and replaced it with a robotic arm so he wouldn't be posessed by Liquid anymore. Then he used whatever the fuck it was to make it seem like he still was Liquid to fool Patriots and Snake or something. Why else would he remove the hand.
JumpingTheGun
Banned
Man you guys weren't kidding with the 7 minute full install.
Gat damn.
Gat damn.
giancarlo123x
Banned
I hope MGS5 makes the codec more like 2 and 3 and less like 4. I miss just listening to funny stories and characters just talking for hours it seems anytime you wanted. MGS4 did away with secret codec calls and all that.
JumpingTheGun
Banned
That's one thing I'm actually really glad they took out. We already have been blessed with 20 minute cutscenes. I don't need 20 minute in depth secret Codec calls from Otacon just so he can talk to me about the type of toilet paper he uses to wipe his ass with.
Itchy//Tasty
Member
This is correct. Part of it happens between games which confuses people a bit I think.
A lot of it was optional (especially in MGS3) so you wouldn't hear it unless you called various ppl of your own accord.
I hope he brings this aspect back as well.
All those tapes in Peace Walker were glorious.
Dick Justice
Banned
Sigint's codec calls were pure gold. Also that James Bond convo with Paramedic. Bring that stuff back for MGS5.
Canis lupus
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PuppetMaster
Member
Do weapons carry over to new game? I guess not. I have that stun knife, very cool.
They do. But you don't get them till after you meet up with the MK2.
whalleywhat
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Call Para Medic before and after you eat the glowing mushroom. The best.
Lumpy Onion
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Man, playing with the headset for the short codec calls is awesome! It feels like I am more in the game. I remember hearing that there were unique ones that only appeared if you were using a headset. Was that just BS or true?
I posted in the other thread by mistake, but was writing about how insane Konami is for not taking our money, MGS 4 is a DLC goldmine for single player.
New 5-6 hours campaign mission with either post-MGS 2 Snake or Raiden, new gameplay segments added to the main game, VR Missions. There's a bunch of possibilities.
New 5-6 hours campaign mission with either post-MGS 2 Snake or Raiden, new gameplay segments added to the main game, VR Missions. There's a bunch of possibilities.
Femmeworth
Banned
The patch came out four years after I played the game, how fitting.
Edit: Got my years mixed up, it's actually been three years. :x
Edit: Got my years mixed up, it's actually been three years. :x
Live Free or Die
Banned
That is such an awesome feature. I love it!
Yea I recommend those podcasts, it was worth it doing another playthrough to hear, lots of cool information. There are also videos on youtube with the podcasts running.
For me it's not the trophies that matter. I can now play the game without having the installs between arcs, which kinda bothered me tbh. Also, I have the Sony 7.1 headset and the dualshock 3 now, so it'll be nice listening to the amazing soundtrack and have rumble. Small and silly things, I know, but they make it so it isn't exactly the same experience as it was when I first played it in 2008.
giancarlo123x
Banned
GOTY 2008, and 2012.
Bill Squabber
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Its a 30 gig+ game
Ein Bear
Member
My favourite was when you're wearing your Raiden disguise.
"You're starting to irritate me already."
"Really? I thought this look would make me more popular."
"I doubt it."
Raonak
Banned
Agreed. Mechanically, the game is awesome. So many different weapons, so many different ways to tackle situations, VR missions would have been amazing.
LiquidSolid
Member
That's not going to help. On higher difficulty settings, it'll just remove any ammo over the limit.
Raonak
Banned
Hey, I loved doing that too! It was an awesome addition to the gameplay!
No fucking way... this was possible?
Yep. The game is so awesomely filled with little minute details that would otherwise be left unoticed.
like the CQC knee kick, which i only found out existed by visiting this thread.
BWAHAHAHA.. Goddam this is why i love kojima.
the lack of codec calls was one of my biggest complaints about the game.
giancarlo123x
Banned
This is exactly why I love the codec, years later and I'm still hearing new conversations even though I've beaten the game countless times since release.
Ein Bear
Member
Yeah same here, I literally discover something new every time I play the game, it's insane how much stuff they put in there!
<3 MGS.
Dick Justice
Banned
I love how they pretty much call Snake a dumbass even though he can hear them.
The best is probably Sigint's convo where he recalls dreaming about killer shit. Or the naked camo. Or the cardboard box one.
Dick Justice
Banned
Yeah, it's a lot more awesome than that lame sweep kick he normally does. Almost makes up for the loss of that awesome MGS2 roundhouse ;_;
giancarlo123x
Banned
"Aw, hell no!"
StunandStab
Member
I started a new game and while I love this game I'm not sure if I have the heart to do it. Chicken emblem seems more frustrating and daunting the BBE. I've done BBE, it's simple because you KNOW if you're not getting it...
I wish you could track your stats in this game =/
I wish you could track your stats in this game =/
Kinda lame trophies IMO, my brother got the highest rank (hardest difficulty, under 5 hours, zero alerts, zero kills, buncha other crap, needless to say its freaking hard) in the game before, and was looking forward to doing it again with a trophy to prove it.
But nope, you don't even get a trophy for playing it on the hardest difficulty.
But nope, you don't even get a trophy for playing it on the hardest difficulty.
StunandStab
Member
You still need the BBE to get all the trophies...
Anyone who gets this Plat has proof that not only are they skilled gamers, they fucking love MGS4 and were willing to play it many, many times
Yeah I suppose. No use complaining anyway.
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