That was moi.
I'll try to get people to do the thing where at the top of every page in huge red letters it says it's the spoiler thread to try to minimize mistakes.
But yeah photos of the guide are out so stay away ~
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That was moi.
I'll try to get people to do the thing where at the top of every page in huge red letters it says it's the spoiler thread to try to minimize mistakes.
But yeah photos of the guide are out so stay away ~
No one is forcing you to play it. As far as seeing all the content, most "casual" gamers don't beat games period. Look up some game completion statistics. Also how arrogant to say they fucked up the balance just because it doesn't fit your preferred notions of what makes a game good. Some of us prefer 40 hours of playing the game to MGS4 style.
You keep calling everyone fanboys and seem pretty decided on the game. Maybe you should take a break from this thread for a bit and cool off?
Very true. Sitting on a hill reconning a whole base with your directional mic as well as visually will be a legit strategy.
Also dig the new avatar, bub
You guys are borderline assholes ... just saying...
I'm trying to give you the point of view of a gamer who struggles to find the time to play everything he likes, but you guys just belittle me.
And well I'm glad I was able to fully enjoy TW3 over MGSV, I'm pretty sure I made the right choice.
I'm not buying MGSV anyway because I know I won't have enough time to play it, because the story isn't what I wanted it to be ( I don't need to play the game to know that, all 3 reviews that came out said the exact same thing) and I really don't like grinding and repeting missions to unlock content.
TW3 NEVER required you to repeat content.
BossDarkseid
Member
Dude, you can't call people assholes because they disagree with you. People who actually have a go at you, sure...and more reviews have come out that speak positively...Anyhoo...spoilers ahoy
Big_Boss_Snake_
Member
You are being respectful, the others are being judgmental and I don't like this.
And that spanish review (97/100 BTW) said the same thing about the plot.
matrix-cat
Member
Well, it's all over, then. The guide sent us to hell, but we're digging even deeper into our spoilerproof bunkers because fuck this.
Appreciated.
If possible could you also suggest the use of spoiler tags when posting even in the spoiler thread. It's not uncommon for people to enter or post in the wrong thread accidentally, so tagging heavy spoilers even in a spoiler thread helps people who accidentally enter for a second, and those who accidentally post in the wrong thread also.
Just while the game isn't released.
I already said there is balance to be found. A game can be like 30 hours long for its main content and 100+ hours if it has interesting side content. Like TW3 ...
But to hide major point plots behind grinding missions repetitively , that's wrong ...
BossDarkseid
Member
Woo!
And I read it as more positive but...to each their own. I'll have way more limited time soon enough but...it's not so much that MGSV will hold my attention 100% for 2-3 months (or however long it takes me to beat it) but I tend to play games more in "bursts" nowadays anyway, so the prospect doesn't bother me and I'll probably be naturally replaying missions for challenges etc.
Ever since I got into WoW years ago I've never been the same
I'm not sure I understand what you think you're achieving by continuing to post in this thread. You've made your position very clear (Even if you have totally jumped to a lot of conclusions based on some vague information from an early review) and made it clear several times that you don't intend to buy the game and are no longer interested in it.
I don't see anyone being an arsehole in here - I see people correcting you for making false assertions and people calling you out for silly and self centred arguments but that's about it.
Woo!
And I read it as more positive but...to each their own. I'll have way more limited time soon enough but...it's not so much that MGSV will hold my attention 100% for 2-3 months (or however long it takes me to beat it) but I tend to play games more in "bursts" nowadays anyway, so the prospect doesn't bother me and I'll probably be naturally replaying missions for challenges etc.
Ever since I got into WoW years ago I've never been the same
The spanish review said the story wasn't emotional like every other major entry in the series (not counting PW) and it wasn't a good conclusion to the whole franchise. So I don't care ...
Then why are you complaining about a game you're not going to get? All you've been doing the past two days is going into different MGS threads and whining about how this game isn't for you and that your hype is dead and that you always knew you were never going to like the game. If the game isn't for you and your lifestyle you should move the fuck on and find a game that is fit for your lifestyle. Complaining about how TPP is fucked up by making you grind and repeat is basically saying that you want the game exactly the way you want it and fuck anyone who wants any different. So what did you expect coming into a thread full of MGS fans and start whining about a game that these people have waited years for?
Because I am a MGS fan too, and hoped for this game to be different from what I feared it would be ... Because the trailers were amazing... And that I've been able to enjoy MGS1 to 4 extensively but the shift that came with PW and now TPP alienated me and I'm not happy with it... It's really sad when you've been a fan for like 15 years and you're not able to enjoy the final entry in the saga.
I really feel like if kojima felt its important enough to not miss it would be in the main quest.
there's nothing wrong with adding additional plot and good fan service for the diehards to the series.
it's win/win really. otherwise ppl would complain most likely about too much filler or the plot dragging with unnecessary plot points coming up that you have to play through to get to the end.
you don't want to play the game, you don't need to defend or justify your reasons why.
edit:lol nvm man.
Srey Plaughtered
Member
That's on the gamer and not on anyone else. And TW3 =/= MGSV, you can't put 'em together just because both are open world lol.
You've just summarised what you've been saying for the past two days and completely ignored the point of why you're still complaining about a game you clearly have no interest in.
BossDarkseid
Member
Eh, I can understand that but technically this is the middle chapter (more or less) of the franchise....I mean I've seen plenty of people say there is no cliffhanger ending or tease for DLC or a sequel we will never get...so I suppose I view it more as a chapter in the larger story. Ah, well.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Once again you act as if you know all about what the optional content entails, are you really this ignorant? It's all side content, optional missions and optional tapes. Did you read every single note in the witcher 3? Every sidequest? God damn it why would they gate so much story into optional content! You missed so many important things! What horrible game design!!
Noone is forcing you to complete everything, it's there for the people who care enough to sink their time into it, if thats not okay with you then fine, but don't act like the game is commiting a cardinal sin for having a motherlode of content for fans to sift through at their leisure.
If you no longer have an interest in the game, why are you here?
Who said anything about major plot points? It's very likely just additional info. No offense dude, but I really think you're overreacting.
I'm complaining because I actually have a lot of interest in the game since I am a fan of the franchise lol. I'm still really biased but this game is like everything I don't want it to be...
I was just comparing them because they're both really long games...
Srey Plaughtered
Member
Just to suffer.
So is Persona 4.
You make your own time mate. Whether it is for a 2 hour long game or a 200 hour one. If you can't make time, then it's still on you not the developers.
Literally all he's done in this thread is jump to conclusions, make false assertions and overreact.
Death Metalist
Member
It's alright man, you can post your opinions. I'm a massive MGS fan and I come from the same boat as you, except I already have the CE pre-ordered and everything. I can't really lie to myself and say some of the info didn't disappoint me abit but eh, I'll reserve my judgement for when I play the game myself without expectations. I loved the gameplay in PW but I hated the grind, repetitive bosses and the way it told it's story. I felt much of the focus/emphasis on the story has been lost so I preferred the previous games because it had the gameplay and focus on story except this time around the gameplay is 1000x times more focused than the story. I really cannot remember one thing from PW's story that made me go "Holy shit this is insane!".
Anyways, the game has not been released yet and I'm just going by what the reviews wrote so it's all a tale from my ass anyways.
Still ignoring the point I'm trying to make. You still haven't said why you're still here talking about a game you have no interest in playing. I've got stuff to do so I'm going to have leave this paticular topic but you enjoy talking about the same stale shit you've been saying for the last two days now.
I sometimes forget that there are other people other than forum members reading posts here.
Srey Plaughtered
Member
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Firstly, I don't think any game has an obligation to "respect the player's time". Some games are designed for short bursts of activity, some are not, so you should probably start moving towards the former sorts of games if you can't make or invest the time into the longer ones (I'm not telling you what to do, just saying
). Not all games should have to cater for everyone. For me, that kind of thinking is a creative dead end. It's like making music or art specifically so everyone likes it, invariably it leads to diluted, unoriginal experiences. We wouldn't have Dark Souls or Arma3, for instance, if all games were designed with everyone in mind.
Secondly: I totally understand that you don't have the time to sink into this. I have a wife, kid, job, band(s), friends etc. I'm very busy a lot of the time. It is hard to find the time to sit down and play any more. I don't have the money to be buying shit loads of games either.
I don't expect the game to respect my time, it doesn't have to. The onus is on me whether I think it is worth it to sink the time into it. If you can't tell, I've already decided that TPP will keep my interest for a very long time, so I'm willing to invest whatever time I can find into it. If the mission-based design is anything like PW, it will lend itself pretty well to dip in and play. If I can find an hour or half-hour, I'll be able to pop into a mission and maybe even complete it. That's good enough for me and my mindset. Maybe I might even get a day indoors to myself where I can chuck a few more hours and dig deeper. That's good enough too. They've also implemented microtransactions so that people like yourself can get through the game quicker rather than waste time waiting for struts to build (I can't afford that personally but I welcome the addition).
If that don't work for you, then it's probably not worth getting the game. It's as simple as that.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
He's been ignoring his own contradictions for two days now, instead resorting to apparent denial by calling us assholes for pointing them out.
I think it's safe to say he's long past the point of understanding the sheer hypocrisy of what he's already posted.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Why do you keep repeating this? It's just simply not true. It's like you are trying to convince yourself the game has to be bad.
I think I read the most spoiling post of that thread because of this :'(
GwyndolinCinder
Member
You do know even members sometime just read threads to laugh at the dumb shit being posted...
artsi
Member
Based on GZ, you have to complete some special objectives to get cassette tapes that include some background information and trivia you can listen to. Nothing major really.
Death Metalist
Member
If it's anything like Peace Walker which it seems to be, then you'll have to grind for better recruits so that you can develop badass weapons to either make later missions or bosses easier for you. Grinding for better recruits meaning you'll have to play the same mission of your choice over and over again, Fulton-ing POW's so you could have loads of high ranked people that can build you some kickass stuff.
Other things to grind will maybe be currency(Diamonds) for you to build whatever you want, whenever you want.
Eh, Jim Sterling's hurt my feelings better.
That doesn't mean you didn't hurt my feelings too, Steve 
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
You could just play through the game and pick up people on the way, I imagine.
Death Metalist
Member
Not if you want S rank POW's which as you progress through the game and unlock high leveled stuff, it's all you'd ever want. (Strictly speaking about PW of course.)
Okay