METROID PINBALL DS

alien crush and devil's crush are indeed the shit. and since i suspect more of you own geneses than turbos, keep an eye out for a cart called "dragon's fury," which is actually a port of devil's crush.

and jarrod: pokemon. i'm digressing, but the trouble with nintendo isn't so much that they milk the hell out of their established franchises as that they do so little else of note. can't say that about capcom or konami.
 
No, but we have seen Mario Parties, Mario racing, Mario golfing, Mario Pinball, Mario RPGs, Mario Paint, Mario Typing, Mario puzzle games, Mario's Brewery, Mario's early years, Mario Slug X, Mario Andretti Racing, Mario TV shows, Mario underwear, Mario head gear, Mario condoms, Mario dentures, Mario's Time Machine, Mario movies, Mario curly poop, Mario is Missing, Mario Baseball, Mario paper edition, Mario pencils, Mario pens, Mario folders, Mario backpacks, Mario furniture, Mario carpet, Mario wallpaper, Mario soy product, Mario cereal, Mario fast food, Mario toys, Mario keitai, Mario shoes, Mario fanboys, and other assorted Mario products...

Errr...wait...
 
drohne said:
and jarrod: pokemon.
Fair enough, though Pokemon seems to be the exception and the differing versions more of a design decision to encourage it's social aspects more than offering a slightly tweked "new" release for repeat buying.


drohne said:
i'm digressing, but the trouble with nintendo isn't so much that they milk the hell out of their established franchises as that they do so little else of note. can't say that about capcom or konami.
I dunno, all Konami's notable games this generation (Winning Eleven, Metal Gear, Silent Hill, Contra, Gradius, Castlevania, Yu-Gi-OH!, Suikoden, Goemon, DDR, ISS, ESPN, Disney Sports, Shaman King, TMNT, Rave, Getbackers, Bloody Roar, etc) seem to be rooted in established franchises and licenses. Sure they might have a diversion like Boktai or ZOE here and there, but so do Nintendo (Pikmin, Giftpia, Kururin, Napoleon, etc). I'd say by in large all Konami does is milk, hell over half their total output is based on a license of some sort.

Capcom a case could be made for though. In fact, I'd say Capcom's launched more original IPs this generation proportionately than any other major Japanese publisher.


dark10x said:
No, but we have seen Mario Parties, Mario racing, Mario golfing, Mario Pinball, Mario RPGs, Mario Paint, Mario Typing, Mario puzzle games, Mario's Brewery, Mario's early years, Mario Slug X, Mario Andretti Racing, Mario TV shows, Mario underwear, Mario head gear, Mario condoms, Mario dentures, Mario's Time Machine, Mario movies, Mario curly poop, Mario is Missing, Mario Baseball, Mario paper edition, Mario pencils, Mario pens, Mario folders, Mario backpacks, Mario furniture, Mario carpet, Mario wallpaper, Mario soy product, Mario cereal, Mario fast food, Mario toys, Mario keitai, Mario shoes, Mario fanboys, and other assorted Mario products...

Errr...wait...
And yet, they're all unique individual games. Not essentially the same game released 3-4 times in one year. ;)
 
The unique thing about Capcom is that I have bought 4 of their most recent games in 2005 already. All have been pretty much quality regardless of what billing each is attached to. (Megaman X8, RE4, Minish Cap, Shadow of Rome)
 
If this is official, i will laugh a bit more, then start to cry. how could Nintendo do this to such a great title. Retro worked so hard to make metroid Prime great. If Nintendo made Metroid Pinball, it will be like Nintendo is saying to retro "screw you retro, you made Metroid popular and too mature for us. Nintendo rule 1, Kiddy = profit!!!!"
 
Exploration, Puzzel solving, Bomb planting, Map expanding, Equipment getting, New suit equiping PinBall???

...herrmmm where do I sign up?
 
SomeDude said:
NST is probably making the game since they are also working on Hunters.


I bet the game sucks ass.

NST is in charge of killing franchise (at least from a sales point of view). They've done a good job so far with Wave Race and 1080. I expect a lot from Hunters too.
 
This is defintaly milking but I would buy it. Metroid pinball would be cool. Since when is Pinball kiddy? Most kids wouldn't know a Pinball table from a record player.
 
Uh if THQ makes this game who cares, it wont take away any important resources from Nintendo.

I have been missing a great pinball game since Revenge of the Gator!
 
I don't know whether to be appalled or intrugued, much like Monolithsoft and Namco x Capcom, this is obviously more of a "quick buck" type of game, but the franchises they're using and the potentials in which they could be used makes it an interesting idea.

Of course, had this been a real pinball game years ago, nobody would have had a problem with it. But hey, its Nintendo and its cool to whine about them. but if Sony made Jak Pinball on PSP, it'd be the greatest thing ever :lol
 
Haha, Revenge of the Gator was also awesome! Talk about classic portable pinball.

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I think pinball on the DS would be great, not because of the touch screen, but because the dual screens are vertically oriented and thus you could have non-scrolling, non-zooming tables.

Even better would be if they included a tilt cartridge so you could literally "tilt" the board.
 
As a huge Metroid fan, I don't mind this in the least. It isn't quite the same thing as a hackneyed, half-assed side-scroller every 12 months (a la Mega Man).
 
If Nintendo made Metroid Pinball, it will be like Nintendo is saying to retro "screw you retro, you made Metroid popular and too mature for us. Nintendo rule 1, Kiddy = profit!!!!"

Shit I know right. A few weeks ago I played the South Park Pinball machine and now I can never enjoy watching the show EVER AGAIN! In fact when I see ad's for South Park on TV BLOOD comes shooting out of my ASS!

For god sake people, it's not like they're dumping the entire Metroid franchise just so they can soley make Pinball games now.

Whats going to sell better? A Generic Pinball game, or a Pinball game with a strong liscense attached to it? Is the game going to affect the main franchise in any way? No.

If Sony or MS had even a GLIMMER of IP the same strength as Mario / Metroid / Pokemon, they'd be all over this shit in a second.
 
tedtropy said:
I've actually always wanted to play Typing of the Dead. Seems interesting, as well as a way to show off my mad typing skillz to all the ladies.

Ever check out the bargain bins at EB/Gamestop? Every so often I see a copy of the PC version for like five bucks lying around. Pretty fun game, too.
 
Revenge of the Gator was one of my favorite Gameboy games.

I can close my eyes and still see the animations on the table.

I would rather play a new sequel to RotG then Metroid Pinball :lol
 
Why is everyone talking about Revenge of the Gator as if it's the only thing to compare Metroid Pinball to? You are aware there have been portable pinball games in the last 15 years, right? Some of them from HAL, even.

I just feel betrayed. Mario is one thing, but Samus? I thought we had an understanding.
 
I think they should just do Nintendo Pinball, and have one of the tables be Metroid-themed, one Kirby-themed, one Mario-themed, etc. That would be much more palatable.
 
I'm not even finding this funny, but Nintendo can do whatever they like with Metroid, it's not like I buy many of those titles. :P But I'm not sure where the hell the market for this would be, seems most Metroid fans would be offended.
 
Oh no! Nintendo is going to combine two things we all love -- Metroid and Pinball!

Next thing you know, they'll be mixing ice cream and chocolate syrup.
 
In the past 20 years the world of the video games has seen a linear progression/expansion all the time. In other words the more beefed up technologies and functionalities have enabled the game publishers to realize more beautiful graphics and more gorgeous game contents.

Because that kind of expansion was simply going on until quite recently, those who are doing business in this industry somehow believed that this kind of formula would always bring us the bright future.

But Nintendo, for one, has a different idea. Nintendo believes that that kind of successful formula has reached a saturation point. So that is why Nintendo is going to take a different approach – and for Nintendo, taking such a different approach is something taken for granted. But probably for those who have seen the past succesful formula as valid, maybe they see how Nintendo approaches the issue as something alienating.
Hey, I agree.

Contradicting yourself is rather alienating.
 
DavidDayton said:
Oh no! Nintendo is going to combine two things we all love -- Metroid and Pinball!

Next thing you know, they'll be mixing ice cream and chocolate syrup.

I love sex.

And I love kittens.

Dare I combine the two for delicious results!?
 
jarrod said:
And yet, they're all unique individual games. Not essentially the same game released 3-4 times in one year. ;)
Exactly. My greatest concern is that the gameplay is unique. This is why I don't buy Mario Party games, but may try Mario Baseball. Yeah, it'd be better if there was a distinct set of characters and environments with each Nintendo game, and their approach may only be hurting them in the long run, but I don't get tired, so long as the game formula isn't.
 
Socreges said:
Yeah, it'd be better if there was a distinct set of characters and environments with each Nintendo game.

Exactly. This is the point for me: I literally cannot stand Mario or the Mario universe anymore. Nintendo has effectively killed any and all charm they once had for me. I can accept it in platformers and perhaps the occasional RPG (and even Double Dash disappointed me), but I'm through supporting this other franchise milks.

I just hope they don't start doing it to Metroid.
 
JackFrost2012 said:
Why is everyone talking about Revenge of the Gator as if it's the only thing to compare Metroid Pinball to? You are aware there have been portable pinball games in the last 15 years, right? Some of them from HAL, even.

I just feel betrayed. Mario is one thing, but Samus? I thought we had an understanding.

Revenge of the Gator is still my favorite pinball game after all these years. Can't believe how many hours it saved me from boredom on the school bus.

I can still hear the weirdass music in my head :lol
 
Amir0x said:
Exactly. This is the point for me: I literally cannot stand Mario or the Mario universe anymore. Nintendo has effectively killed any and all charm they once had for me. I can accept it in platformers and perhaps the occasional RPG (and even Double Dash disappointed me), but I'm through supporting this other franchise milks.
The latter, I definitely understand. But the former... yeah, that's strange.

If they did this frequently to Metroid, THAT would upset me. The universe is much more serious and unilateral, and even one spin-off is a stretch.
 
When will Nintendo learn that Metroid is a C-list franchise at best in terms of selling power o.o? It's not a top tier series and never was. Please just put it back to sleep for another 10 years instead of stuffing it down our throats -_-
 
Socreges said:
The latter, I definitely understand. But the former... yeah, that's strange.

You know how certain things have a breaking point before they're not longer "cute" or "appealing"? Well, Mario sort of has reached that point about fifteen spin-offs ago (for me). And now everytime I hear about a new spin-off I plot new and devious ways to argue about it on the internet.

And I don't support it with my money. Doesn't change the fact that every other Nintendo fan supports it with their money, but they won't get it from me! Bargain bin in a backalley store at very best for a completist library!
 
DavidDayton said:
Oh no! Nintendo is going to combine two things we all love -- Metroid and Pinball!

Next thing you know, they'll be mixing ice cream and chocolate syrup.

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"Sherman, set the Wayback Machine for the year 1982."

"Shouldn't that be the Wayforward machine, Mr. Peabody?"

"Just do as I say, Sherman. We have a very important lesson to observe!"

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"Gosh, Mr. Peabody, what's chasing those two men?"

"That is the creature known as 'Pac-Man', Sherman. It's really quite harmless. It has simply mistaken a pair of destitute musicians for ghosts, it's natural prey."

"It ate them right up! Do you think anyone will mind?"

"Not at all. Why, the entire world loves Pac-Man! He's the star of one of their favorite pastimes, a game that resembles pinball somewhat."

"Boy, do I ever love pinball! I'm the neighborhood champion at Miss Annabelle."

"I'll just bet you are, Sherman. And there's a lot of people just like you who love pinball in the year 1982! They reasoned that, if they love Pac-Man and they love pinball, what could be better than..."

"Pac-Man and pinball!"

"You took the words right out of my mouth, Sherman. Let's see how successful their plan was!"

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"Golly!"

"I see you're rendered speachless. For this experiment, you shall operate the equipment. Shall we begin?"

Narrator: Moments later...

"Well, Sherman?"

"This isn't a good idea, Mr. Peabody...it's a complete boner!"

"Sadly, it's true, Sherman. There are some things we love that just shouldn't go together. Which brings us to the moral of our story."

"You mean?"

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"Well, you know what they say: Pin onto others if you would have them Pac up for you."

"And if you give someone the Met they'll be taken by the 'roids!"

"Exactly right. Well, I believe we're done with this sorrid phase of history. Let's go back home and pay a visit to your friend Miss Annabelle. I'll show you the skills that made men call me the Pinball Wizard of 1921!"

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And yet, they're all unique individual games. Not essentially the same game released 3-4 times in one year. ;)

Ah, but that's not including the fact that Mario parties like once a year (Mario Party 1-6 + Advance) and does all kinds of other stuff constantly.
 
jarrod said:
BTW, Namco Hometek's releasing Pac-Man Pinball on GBA next month.
You see, that's fine. It's Pac-Man so it's very loose and happy. It lends itself to something such as pinball. Even House of the Fucking Dead is fine as a pinball game because of its arcadey roots, but not Metroid.
 
Amir0x said:
You know how certain things have a breaking point before they're not longer "cute" or "appealing"? Well, Mario sort of has reached that point about fifteen spin-offs ago (for me). And now everytime I hear about a new spin-off I plot new and devious ways to argue about it on the internet.

And I don't support it with my money. Doesn't change the fact that every other Nintendo fan supports it with their money, but they won't get it from me! Bargain bin in a backalley store at very best for a completist library!
That's fine. I just think "literally cannot stand" is strangely strong language considering.
 
I'm excited about this news. I like the Metroid world, and I like (good) pinball games.
 
drohne said:
well, it's no more of a travesty than prime or prime hunters. and as a big fan of alien crush, i think this could be cool. as long as they're not letting the mario pinball people develop.

Amazingly enough, I echo his sentiments.
 
dark10x said:
Ah, but that's not including the fact that Mario parties like once a year (Mario Party 1-6 + Advance) and does all kinds of other stuff constantly.
Sure, but Nintendo doesn't release 2-4 different tweaked versions of that same Mario Party within that same year. That's what sets Konami or Koei apart. Also, Mario Party skipped a year (2001).

Proportionately, Konami and Koei both release far fewer "new" IPs than Nintendo actually as well. Should we start up a list?
 
evilromero said:
You see, that's fine. It's Pac-Man so it's very loose and happy. It lends itself to something such as pinball. Even House of the Fucking Dead is fine as a pinball game because of its arcadey roots, but not Metroid.

You know, there have been Pinball games that have serious themes as well. I don't see how Metroid would be any different except that this is Nintendo, so by default they need to be given a lashing for the kind of milking that damn near everyone in this industry is participating in. Few developers operate similar to a group like Treasure for instance--this industry is supporting by branding--get over it or find a new hobby because next gen will likely be worse.
 
Socreges said:
That's fine. I just think "literally cannot stand" is strangely strong language considering.

I state everything with stronger language than is appropriate. Just my personality. I don't like it at all anyway, though.
 
jarrod said:
Sure, but Nintendo doesn't release 2-4 different tweaked versions of that same Mario Party within that same year. That's what sets Konami or Koei apart. Also, Mario Party skipped a year (2001).

Proportionately, Konami and Koei both release far fewer "new" IPs than Nintendo actually as well. Should we start up a list?

Sure, throw up a list of titles that were released in the US. :)
 
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