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Michael Moore wants to head an Occupy-like movement against Donald Trump

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ishibear

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After trying to warn us of the possibility of a Trump victory with his film "Michael Moore in Trumpland", Moore is just as pissed off as the rest of us.

I love this.

Moore had largely been quiet for much of the campaign, in part because he was writing the movie. He said that period was coming to an end now as he saw the activism of the past few days--protests have sprung up around the country, most notably and at times violently in Portland, Ore., on Thursday night--as the start of a larger movement.

"I'm going to be one of the people leading the opposition to him, that's going to stop him. It will be a mass movement of millions that will dwarf Occupy Wall Street," Moore said.

He added, "I don't believe anyone in the media who says we're going to have four years of Trump. This is a man who doesn't have any ideology; the only thing he believes in is Donald Trump. And that's usually a one-way ticket out of office.”
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"We're not going to fix the Democratic Party--we're going to take it over," he said.

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"The Democratic Party doesn't seem to get it. Working people that are both African American and white--don't make it a racial thing--have suffered at the hands of both Republicans and Democrats," Moore said. He grew more fiery. "The DNC has to resign. They all have to resign."
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http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...iew-donald-trump-election-20161111-story.html
 
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ryseing

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I'm in.

I feel like there's a real opportunity here to harness all of the anger people are feeling and put it into something transformative.

MM has been on point the past few weeks.
 
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Steel

Banned
Occupy's problem was that it didn't have any leaders, so yeah this'll be more effective.

I don't like Moore at all, though. Better than Trump in either case.
 
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Kimawolf

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The last Occupy movement only made everyone not under 25 think young people have no real focus. So hopefully he can lead a real movement. I'm down. Let's get the racists and sexist asses out of here.
 
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acheron_xl

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Push the Democrats to the left. Create space in the middle for a new, true center-right party. Then the Trump Republican party can just become the European-style far-right party Trump is modeling it on.
 
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Slime

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I'm not Moore's biggest fan, but there absolutely needs to be an active and vocal movement prepared to take to the streets at the drop of a hat, watching every one of Trump's moves every second of every day.
 
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excelsiorlef

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Vermillion said:
Out of genuine curiosity - what did the last Occupy movement accomplish, exactly?
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Trump....

I mean more or less the only message left is fuck the rich fuck the establishment which he somehow rode despite being rich and established...


That said a better OWS is an interesting proposition... depending on the message.
 
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ishibear

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I personally appreciate this because we need someone who is relatively famous and outspoken to stand up. Moore is unafraid to put himself out there. He's stating that he will do this and he's going to get others to join.

I'm behind him 100%. I hope we get more people too. I hope he gets a Democrat involved as well.
 
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Chumley

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Occupy had no clear definable goal but it created a culture, the fact that it's still talked about means it basically did what it needed to do. Paved the way for bigger movements like BLM and a lot of social justice stuff. If Michael Moore is serious about this, this could be absolutely huge. This would have a target and a massively famous leader who got everything right about Trump.
 
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trh

Nifty AND saffron-colored!
I've rolled my eyes so many times at Michael Moore during the election, but he was spot on with most of it. Not gonna doubt him on this one.
 
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smurfx

get some go again
well any new movement that can be born needs people with ideas of what to do besides just protesting. hopefully we can keep liberals from splintering off into separate groups because they aren't getting everything they want. there really needs to be one united voice in order for them to get any attention.
 
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samn

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Crayon said:
It popularized the 99% concept that emphasized the trajectory of inequality. I don't think Bernie could have got so far without Occupy.
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This is definitely something. I don't remember hearing 'the 99%' as a slogan before Occupy, and I feel it's effective and has staying power.
 
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onadesertedisland

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Balance comes from equal power, not taking the high road. If progressives want to repel the far right they need to have an equally powerful obstructionist wing as the tea party. This is a good start, I hope Moore can bring on some other celebrities to give this idea credence. Perhaps DiCaprio or Damon.
 
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Kite

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"The Democratic Party doesn't seem to get it. Working people that are both African American and white--don't make it a racial thing--have suffered at the hands of both Republicans and Democrats,"
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Damn, so when moderates say this we're coddling racists but when this guys says it ya'll are all in. That is fine, as long as you get the message.
 
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ishibear

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A lot of people on GAF have been saying that the DNC needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

If Moore is successful with this, oh boy! 😂
 
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Atomic Playboy

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BronsonLee said:
They camped out in my favorite park for a while and then left
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Looks like you posted before you finished the sentence "...left a huge fucking mess." They utterly destroyed a park in Portland that had to be completely reseeded with grass and couldn't be walked on for the better part of a year. Destruction of public property is never conducive to getting your message taken seriously.
 
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wildfire

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Vermillion said:
Out of genuine curiosity - what did the last Occupy movement accomplish, exactly?
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The last Occupy movement was squashed actively by Obama and the Democrats.

The Tea party movement was co-opted by the Republican party. What happened to the Republican's is a testament to not allowing these groups to thrive but Occupy did have a better, initially more focused message, hold our financial leaders accountable. Absorbing the Occupy movement instead of shunning it would've been healthier for the country's soul.


Somnid said:
I wouldn't put him in charge, but I like the idea.
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Agree.
 
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Cmagus

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Man I love Moore and if I was in the states I'd gladly join you guys. I mean you guys are stuck with Trump for 4 years so putting constant pressure and backlash on him will make him buckle because he has no spine. The republicans are gonna do some nasty crap but at least protesting can hopefully bring some change or at least have him back down on some of the racist garbage to at least make things a little easier for 4 year.
 
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smurfx

get some go again
obama being a popular president can also help people direct their anger towards the things that matter like voting after he gets out of office. i really hope he goes in that direction after he gets out of office.
 
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