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Michael Moore wants to head an Occupy-like movement against Donald Trump
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Nothing, who said Trump had to accept it if he had lost?
Crayon
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Because the ice caps are going to melt and we're all going to die now.
mugurumakensei
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No leader + no clear target + no clear vision.
With this, we have a leader, a target, and a vision.
dynamitejim
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Good luck. The Police and FBI side with Trump. Crackdowns on protests will make the one's during Bush/Cheney look like child's play.
Bruce Springsteen
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OMG, I just realized that Bill Maher is on tonight, it's going to be lit
Godzilla's Left Toe
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I agree their is some toxic mold in the DNC time to tear is down and build it back up.
CountAntonius
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If this gets started now and maintains momentum we might actually get a good voter turnout in 2018. Hopefully the movement doesn't just burn out after a few months like wall street.
Duane Cunningham
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Yea looking forward to hearing what he has to say. He's been totally silent since the election.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1297261&page=1
Anyway I really dont think this is a smart move, it will only enrage Trump voters and make democrats look worse.
The only person who galvanizes GoPers more than the Clintons is Michael Moore so I don't think he is the best person to lead this kind of thing.
Holy moly that thread lol.
Holy moly that thread lol.
Crayon
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We just had a year of "All Dems are corrupt Wall Street neoliberal establishment shills bought off by George Soros."
So yeah, we're gonna have a lot of those.
Still do. Hate him far less than Trump.
That was pretty much this election, yeah.
That doesn't mean he had to accept it just because he would be made fun of if he didn't. Just like others don't have to accept it now
Galvanize Democrats to go to the polls for local elections and midterms to got some fresh blood in the party. Burn down the DNC and rebuild it.
We need liberals going to the polls and making their voices heard as reliably and consistently as NRA voters.
E-Cat
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That's the fucking point. Hillary's lack of purity lost you the election.
Ziltoidia 9
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Unfortunately it will be the last show before his winter break. Show won't be back on until late January.
I'm probably just stirring up shit at this point, but there's a part of me that thinks we need more Killer Mike-type of liberals who stay armed and who rationalize it with a well-reasoned distrust of law enforcement and government. Conservatives protest with rifles slung over their shoulders. Law enforcement respects their goddamn right to 'peaceful' assembly. We wait until we're pepper sprayed or tased into submission.
I'm not asking for violence... Or maybe I am, I dunno. I just know there'd be a difference in response to these sorts of protest if the retaliatory makeup was shifted. I also know the gun control argument is a losing one. I don't own one, never have and haven't used one in 10+ years. Couldn't give less of a shit if all guns disappear tomorrow but I know that, outside of my liberal fantasy, there's a HUGE contingent of Americans who put guns right up there with Baseball, Apple pie and jesus.
Sorry, gaf. This is a battle we liberals are going to keep losing at the national level.
Malcolm said:
Astaleview
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...It's on!
AHA-Lambda
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Aaaawwwww shit. Shits gonna go down.
mrhyderager
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I don't like Moore. He's a spearhead that's the other side of the Glenn Beck coin. Just because he sits on the left doesn't make him any more or less trustworthy.
I'll wait for Bernie to activate his base for my piece.
I'll wait for Bernie to activate his base for my piece.
Bruce Springsteen
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damn, I hate his extended breaks, only political show I watch
Yup, silver lining here is Obama's only 55. Even assuming that he slows down in his 70s, he could be an active leader of the movement for 20 years, or at least as long as it takes for the country to no longer be actively on fire when he can really retire to elder-statesman status.
Extra Sauce
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"Hillary Clinton was a bad choice, she has too much baggage."
"Michael Moore will lead us to victory!"
"Michael Moore will lead us to victory!"
Corronchilejano
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Sometimes, you don't get to choose your leader, because the one you chose failed you.
Lovely Salsa
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I want to see it happen
Then we can all eat popcorn while watching it unfold. The whole world will be watching
Then we can all eat popcorn while watching it unfold. The whole world will be watching
CassidyIzABeast
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Occupy the polls in 2018.
Bruce Springsteen
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that's the ONLY thing that will change a damn thing
eyeball_kid
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I'll stick with Bernie. He's shown time and time again to have good judgment and I think he's the best leader available to see us through the crisis in this country.
My only fear in all this populist rhetoric from the left is that it may turn into the doppelgänger of the Tea Party. A country so radically divided will only end in more stalemate and tension.
I'm very left leaning when it comes to politics, but in a country with ~300 million people, we need a government that can compromise. I fear that I may never see that again in my lifetime.
I'm very left leaning when it comes to politics, but in a country with ~300 million people, we need a government that can compromise. I fear that I may never see that again in my lifetime.
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j0hnnix
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I stood by Bernie.. It really sucks he was not nominated the man deserved it.
Bruce Springsteen
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that's the problem with this country, extreme on both sides. Dems and Repubs from 20 years ago would be unrecognizable today
Dems haven't moved much. Pubs are completely unrecognizable, yeah. Regan's stance on immigration would get him laughed out of the party nowadays, while Bill would still be right at home. Let's not even talk about George H increasing taxes.
Rear Window
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Like the Tea Party, it can go a few different ways depending on how successful it is.
- It can fizzle out like OWS
- It can cause a civil war in the Democrat Party causing it to split into two
- It can take over the Democrat Party, pushing out the centrists and moving the party left (which is what the Tea Party did to the Republicans in like two years after forming)
A bunch of confusion right now. If both parties move in their respective directions, there is room in the middle for the centrists that got pushed out, thereby having a three party system. Of which I have absolutely no idea how the US would function. The EC system assumes a two party system. It'd be hard for anyone to come up with 270 EC votes if you have a viable third party gobbling up states. So that would have to change somehow. Maybe move to a European style model.
The DNC is burned down and in ashes and we will see what arises out of it.
- It can fizzle out like OWS
- It can cause a civil war in the Democrat Party causing it to split into two
- It can take over the Democrat Party, pushing out the centrists and moving the party left (which is what the Tea Party did to the Republicans in like two years after forming)
A bunch of confusion right now. If both parties move in their respective directions, there is room in the middle for the centrists that got pushed out, thereby having a three party system. Of which I have absolutely no idea how the US would function. The EC system assumes a two party system. It'd be hard for anyone to come up with 270 EC votes if you have a viable third party gobbling up states. So that would have to change somehow. Maybe move to a European style model.
The DNC is burned down and in ashes and we will see what arises out of it.
aspiegamer
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Your hopes are hinging on a core of white, male millennials leading the charge against Trump? The ones with, by far, the least to lose and the least likely to notice any impact to their day-to-day lives? A demographic that actually voted majority Trump? Uh, good luck with that.
More dank memes! Sweet! Maybe if some non-profit offered mobile wifi hotspots and charging stations there'd be higher participation. I'm not even kidding. The revolution will be streamed, so long as it's within 6ft of a wall outlet. 1080p tho.
Screw it, I'm in. Literally the worst possible thing has already happened. Normal disclaimer: I'm white as hell and angry, and yeah I won't pretend to know what any actual discrimination is like or might be like.
PantherLotus
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Anyone who discounts this or casts this as 'occupy-like' needs to think bigger, like 'tea party-like.' The good and the bad.
You want to make change? You primary the first person that steps out of line. No quarter.
You want to make change? You primary the first person that steps out of line. No quarter.
Galactic Specter
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Adam_Vania
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someone running as an unapologetic Socialist very nearly won a major party nomination, in spite of a tremendous effort to bury him. i don't think this would have happened pre-OWS.
Bruce Springsteen
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Dems have changed a lot, I'd say for the better, we forget Obama was initially against things like gar marriage which we now think is a standard right
I think this movement's priority should be figuring out how to end dumb false equivalencies such as this one. The only extremists in the actual parties over the past 30 years have been Republican.
For Christ's sake, the entire point of Bill Clinton's presidency was moving the Democrats to the right, and they just nominated his wife! Unrecognizable! Ha!
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