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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?


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Bernardougf

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Moblie gaming continues to be the worst thing that ever happened to this industry.

The thing is that it is a completely different audience

My son for instance, he wont put the phone down to play ps5 never.. maybe one fifa match here and there.. but in general he and his friends stay the whole fcking day on their phones ... and his ps4 pro collects dust as my ps5 would if i didnt play it ..

And my daughter coudnt give two shits about video games in general
 
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splattered

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The thing is that it is a completely different audience

My son for instance, he wont put the phone down to play ps5 never.. maybe one fifa match here and there.. but in general he and his friends stay the whole fcking day on their phones ... and his ps4 pro collects dust as my ps5 would if i didnt play it ..

And my daughter coudnt give two shits about video games in general

My two older kids are 17 and 11, both play a LOT of console games (as much as they can squeeze in around school and chores though playtime is fairly restricted regardless), and both play a little bit of phone games. The 17 year old admittedly does spend a lot of time on his phone but it's more youtube crap than games.
 

Topher

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Watch MS have a showcase of mostly single player games while Sony had mostly GaaS. Fucking world flips lol. (Probably the game trash GaaS though)


Unfortunately big SP games have big start and gone besides forum chatter. These companies are trying to maximize every $ they can and GaaS seems to be the way 🤢

And that's fine too. Let's say Sony does largely vacate the single player space for the greater riches of Gaas. The demand for single player games isn't going anywhere. The folks who bought millions and millions of copies of God of War, TLOU and Spider-man are still here. That just gives an opportunity for other game companies to come in and fill that space. To be clear, I don't believe Sony will do that completely, but their own investment numbers show more going to Gaas than single player by 2025. Would not be surprised to see even less in subsequent years.

And all of this, is why I'm against all this consolidation. Does anyone really want Jim Ryan running Square Enix or Capcom and do the same shit over there? Not me. Consolidate companies and you consolidate visions. It might take a few years, but eventually it happens. Just look at what happened to Blizzard.
 

Iced Arcade

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Trying to do my part. My 3 year old played street fighter 2 and turtles in time all weekend at our camper while it rained.
 

HeisenbergFX4

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Training the newborn just started 😂
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Trying to do my part. My 3 year old played street fighter 2 and turtles in time all weekend at our camper while it rained.
How it started with my son and I on Nintendo when he was born in 1989 and we still game together to this day and occasional with my 80+ year old father who was taking me to play games on main frame computers back in the early 1970s
 

DeepEnigma

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I'm desensitised to this shit. Looks like your average modern day GAAS or Ubisoft game.
And that's what they wanted from all of us. They knew psychologically they only had to play the long game with the initial angry pushback, that us dinosaurs would be extinct as this is normalized to the youth and beyond.

We seen internal leaks/docs years and years ago from EA to Activision talking about the death by 1,000 cuts approach and it's worth it for them to take the initial bad press in the short term, that over time it would all go away and become the norm for the long term.

And it all started with Horse Armor™. Something we knew would become the norm because even then you had defenders of it, and the most loyal of fans at the time were Bethesda junkies, so it was the perfect game and company to introduce that into the console space with a predisposition defense force. No matter how shit the practice.
 
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Bernoulli

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Watch MS have a showcase of mostly single player games while Sony had mostly GaaS. Fucking world flips lol. (Probably the game trash GaaS though)


Unfortunately big SP games have big start and gone besides forum chatter. These companies are trying to maximize every $ they can and GaaS seems to be the way 🤢
microsoft will push more gaas because they need them for gamepass
sad where the industry is going
 

Topher

Identifies as young
How it started with my son and I on Nintendo when he was born in 1989 and we still game together to this day and occasional with my 80+ year old father who was taking me to play games on main frame computers back in the early 1970s

Ah shit......now you are bringing back some memories. I used to take summer courses at Huntington College when I was a young teen to log on to the mainframes and play Star Trek.

The graphics!

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Astray

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Lmfao Florian continuing to be in 🤡 mode.

At this point his antics and the entertainment he brings me make this deal worth it whether it passes or not.
 

jm89

Member

Cute. Heres a lawyer who posts on era debunking this "concern"

I’m losing the will on this stuff - just when I thought the conspiracy talk was simmering, it bubbles up again.

Raftery isn’t, as you mention, on the enquiry group, nor is he seemingly the Senior Director assigned to this merger - there’s two Senior Directors of Mergers at the CMA, him and Sorcha O’Carroll and O’Carroll is the one overseeing this merger (most likely for the precise reason that, tenuous as it may be, Raftery has been an associate of a law firm that represents an interested third party in this particular merger). Both then report to the ED of the Mergers/Markets Division.
 
Cute. Heres a lawyer who posts on era debunking this "concern"
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Thank you

Seems like the CMA made the right decision here.

there’s two Senior Directors of Mergers at the CMA, him and Sorcha O’Carroll and O’Carroll is the one overseeing this merger (most likely for the precise reason that, tenuous as it may be, Raftery has been an associate of a law firm that represents an interested third party in this particular merger).
 
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sainraja

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Watch MS have a showcase of mostly single player games while Sony had mostly GaaS. Fucking world flips lol. (Probably the game trash GaaS though)


Unfortunately big SP games have big start and gone besides forum chatter. These companies are trying to maximize every $ they can and GaaS seems to be the way 🤢
Yeah, I think they will have that easily covered with Hellblade and Starfield.

As for the Sony showcase, I guess I am an outlier; I am not as upset with it lol.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
The new buzzword and narrative is corruption
Pressure didn't last long
Even though the EU is being the most shady of the bunch. With both their reasoning and lack of explanation as to why they agreed with the CMA, but chose differently with a nothing burger of an explanation saying a whole lot of nothing. When we all know it's because they sacrifice consumers and small companies just to "tax the rich" ones in the long game.
 
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This thread is amazing. It’s pure, concentrated console warfare.

I love it.

I'm just trying to separate the facts from the insanity here.

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Realistically though Microsoft has to have a successful appeal and then the CMA needs to accept their concessions. Of course they still need to extend the current agreement with ABK to go through the process.

No crazy Microsoft eliminating the UK from their business or anything similar.
 
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Sleepwalker

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Dear CMA, I wrote you but you still ain't callin'
I left my cell, my pager and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not've got em
There probably was a problem at the post office or something


Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em
But anyways; fuck it, what's been up? Man, how's your daughter?
My console's pregnant, too, I'm bout to be a father
If I have a daughter, guess what I'mma call her?
I'mma name her Bonnie (Ross)

I read about your Uncle Sony, too, I'm sorry
I had Xbox kill himself over a bad showcase no one wanted
I know you probably hear this every day, but I'm your biggest fan
I even got the underground shit that you did with Nvidia-Arm
I got a room full of your tweets and your docs, man
I like the shit you did with Giphy, too, that shit was phat
Anyways, I hope you get this, man, hit me back
Just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is Foss

Dear CMA, you still ain't called or wrote, I hope you have a chance
I ain't mad - I just think it's fucked up you don't answer fans
If you didn't wanna talk to me outside the Appeal
You didn't have to, but you could've signed some remedies for Phil
That's my little brother man, he's only six years old
We waited in the blistering cold for you
For four hours and you just said, "No"
 
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"a lawyer who posts on era"
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Is it wrong?

I haven't done the research myself which is why I'm asking.

Edit: I did find this about her.

Sorcha O’Carroll is a Senior Director - Mergers at UK Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) since April 2022. Before that, she has worked as a Director of Mergers at the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) for 3 years. Between the years 2011 and 2019, Sorcha was a Senior Associate at Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer. Since 2007 for 4 years, she has occupied the post of an Associate at McMillan. Finally, between the years 2005 and 2006, Sorcha O’Carroll was a Law Clerk at the Federal Court of Canada.

And him.

Colin Raftery is the Senior Director of Mergers at the Competition and Markets Authority, where he leads the work of the CMA’s mergers group. Prior to joining the CMA, Mr Raftery advised on all aspects of EU and UK competition law at law firms Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer in London and Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton in Brussels and Washington DC. Colin Raftery holds an undergraduate degree in law from the University of Edinburgh and postgraduate degrees in law from the College of Europe, Bruges, and the University of Chicago.

More stuff I found.


Sorcha O’Carroll, Senior Director of Mergers at the CMA, said:

Following our Phase 1 investigation, we are concerned that Microsoft could use its control over popular games like Call of Duty and World of Warcraft post-merger to harm rivals, including recent and future rivals in multi-game subscription services and cloud gaming.
If our current concerns are not addressed, we plan to explore this deal in an in-depth Phase 2 investigation to reach a decision that works in the interests of UK gamers and businesses.

Sounds like Florian got the wrong person here.

I'm no lawyer but I found this quite easily. Unless I'm interpreting it wrong that is.
 
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