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[Sanepar]

Do people here actually believe the FTC having a chance at their approach? i know the majority here is console wars and shit posting but there has to be a common sense hidden behind all that. You guys don't really think this will end good for FTC, right?

The deal will be approved. I think ftc will lose and ms will close the deal after that ignoring cat and cma.

But xbox execs are shitheads fanboys and that's what is being exposed.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

I think ftc will lose and ms will close the deal after that ignoring cat and cma.

 

[Bernoulli]

 

[feynoob]

The deal will be approved. I think ftc will lose and ms will close the deal after that ignoring cat and cma.

But xbox execs are shitheads fanboys and that's what is being exposed.

 

[feynoob]

Lina Khan is growing up. .
Kick them where it hurts.

 

[XesqueVara]

The FTC is still trying the Console Angle? Seeing how every other major Regulator dropped it, they should have more chances with the Cloud one.

 

[feynoob]

The FTC is still trying the Console Angle? Seeing how every other major Regulator dropped it, they should have more chances with the Cloud one.

I don't think it's going to work very for them. They have a strong chance with cloud instead.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

how many days these hearings are going to take? and at the end of them, will be a concrete resolution or the circus will keep going?

 

[feynoob]

how many days these hearings are going to take? and at the end of them, will be a concrete resolution or the circus will keep going?

4-5 days.

 

[modiz]

This childish war between Sony and MS is entertaining so far.

There is no pattern, though. Zenimax games are still available on PS and online games are still supported.

 

[feynoob]

There is no pattern, though. Zenimax games are still available on PS and online games are still supported.

Phil Spencer basically confirms The Elder Scrolls VI is an Xbox exclusive

We still don’t know when it’s coming, though.

www.theverge.com

 

[thismeinteil]

Wonder how many new checks MS had to cut to make it worth looking like an idiot to defend the email. Cause companies apparently don't plan things, now. Lol

 

[tmlDan]

There is no pattern, though. Zenimax games are still available on PS and online games are still supported.

huh? those are all pre acquisition, how does that relate to future games.

if they stopped supporting them on PS it would be a PR nightmare for people that own it on PS

 

[DeepEnigma]

There is no pattern, though. Zenimax games are still available on PS and online games are still supported.

 

[modiz]

Phil Spencer basically confirms The Elder Scrolls VI is an Xbox exclusive

We still don’t know when it’s coming, though.

www.theverge.com

Exactly.
"Zenimax games are still available on PS and online games are still supported."
I didn't see any deal they wanted to make with PS for TES VI.

 

[feynoob]

Exactly.
"Zenimax games are still available on PS and online games are still supported."
I didn't see any deal they wanted to make with PS for TES VI.

 

[modiz]

It is what it is. Sony saying we don't trust them when they don't sign the deal is their loss. All others are already on board.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Exactly.
"Zenimax games are still available on PS and online games are still supported."
I didn't see any deal they wanted to make with PS for TES VI.

Now this is what arguing in bad faith looks like.

 

[feynoob]

It is what it is. Sony saying we don't trust them when they don't sign the deal is their loss. All others are already on board.

Es6 is exclusive.
So how can you can trust someone's words, when they do that.

 

[splattered]

FUCK FINALLY. ... Dirty. Fucking. Laundry. This is the stupid shit I've been waiting to see this whole time... Dumb little exchanges and pot shots between MS and Sony behind the scenes. etc etc. Jesus it took long enough. Hopefully it only gets more entertaining from here

 

[modiz]

Now this is what arguing in bad faith looks like.

Well, what did you expect, honestly? Of course they are also trying to get exclusives through acquisitions, it is the most important thing why people choose one console over the other, right?

 

[harry mason 1989]

I really hope when this deal will finally get block
These clown accounts will go away forever

 

[feynoob]

FUCK FINALLY. ... Dirty. Fucking. Laundry. This is the stupid shit I've been waiting to see this whole time... Dumb little exchanges and pot shots between MS and Sony behind the scenes. etc etc. Jesus it took long enough. Hopefully it only gets more entertaining from here

It will. Hope I have enough popcorn to last me this long.

 

[FrankWza]

Now this is what arguing in bad faith looks like.

When you make alts anticipating a need to come here and do such a thing...

 

[DeepEnigma]

Well, what did you expect, honestly? Of course they are also trying to get exclusives through acquisitions, it is the most important thing why people choose one console over the other, right?

You're almost there. Keep going.

 

[feynoob]

You're almost there. Keep going.

 

[adamsapple]

Exactly.
"Zenimax games are still available on PS and online games are still supported."
I didn't see any deal they wanted to make with PS for TES VI.

True, and this is where FTC's case should falter as well. The difference in how Zenimax's games were committed/contracted to release post acquisition is completely different than what MS is proposing for Acti-Bliz.

 

[tmlDan]

FUCK FINALLY. ... Dirty. Fucking. Laundry. This is the stupid shit I've been waiting to see this whole time... Dumb little exchanges and pot shots between MS and Sony behind the scenes. etc etc. Jesus it took long enough. Hopefully it only gets more entertaining from here

expect a netflix docu-series on it next year lol

 

[DeepEnigma]

Ah yes, the classic rock a avatar of one thing, and go hard in the paint of supporting the other. Totes incognito double agent circa 2003 gaming forums. Tee hee!

 

[modiz]

When you make alts anticipating a need to come here and do such a thing...

 

[modiz]

True, and this is where FTC's case should falter as well. The difference in how Zenimax's games were committed/contracted to release post acquisition is completely different than what MS is proposing for Acti-Bliz.

It was an argument already and other regulators didn't care and so won't a judge in US, yes.

 

[adamsapple]

It was an argument already and other regulators didn't care and so won't a judge in US, yes.

Yep. EU and even CMA hand-waived the foreclosing aspect of the acquisition through without any worry.

Not sure why some folks are clinging on to that already.

 

[FrankWza]

We all know whose alt this is now.... Out here earning that second ball.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Ah yes, the classic rock a avatar of one thing, and go hard in the paint of supporting the other. Totes incognito double agent circa 2003 gaming forums. Tee hee!

I've never understood it. Was it ever funny or clever? It's like the people who have chihuahuas named "Killer" or "Thor"

 

[feynoob]

We all know whose alt this is now.... Out here earning that second ball.

We need an entertainer. If we keep losing them like that, we won't have enough.

 

[feynoob]

I've never understood it. Was it ever funny or clever? It's like the people who have chihuahuas named "Killer" or "Thor"

We have a guy with Sony name, MS avatar and Nintendo tag. Yet simps for MS.
Shit is too funny.

 

[splattered]

I wonder how much Microsoft has invested in their X-Cloud technology... You know I wonder if it were me I could just consider axing my excloud business as a concession to passing through the Activision acquisition. I mean the content that would come from acquiring this publisher has to be worth more than cloud streaming in the long run? Maybe? I don't know...

 

[feynoob]

I wonder how much Microsoft has invested in their X-Cloud technology... You know I wonder if it were me I could just consider axing my excloud business as a concession to passing through the Activision acquisition. I mean the content that would come from acquiring this publisher has to be worth more than cloud streaming in the long run? Maybe? I don't know...

They have azure, so it's easy for them to invest on xcloud unlike Sony.

 

[DeepEnigma]

We have a guy with Sony name, MS avatar and Nintendo tag. Yet simps for MS.
Shit is too funny.

Sony

Explain, lol.

 

[GHG]

There is no pattern, though. Zenimax games are still available on PS and online games are still supported.

 

[splattered]

They have azure, so it's easy for them to invest on xcloud unlike Sony.

I know but I'm saying maybe if I'm Microsoft I put on paper that I won't operate xcloud for Xbox customers for the next 5 plus years till my competitors grow and I'll offer them game licensing for up to 10 years etc etc. That way I'm technically not really even the market directly and others have a chance to grow more easily. You could always offer azure as a service and bundle it with Xbox/Acti game licensing. Allow a small but fair cut of mtx in supported games. Etc etc. Instead of trying to lead the charge myself full bore. That way I'm not the biggest threat I'm Just the biggest supporter and can still make some money on the back end that I can use to find further game development for my newly acquired bajillion studios.

 

[feynoob]

I know but I'm saying maybe if I'm Microsoft I put on paper that I won't operate xcloud for Xbox customers for the next 5 plus years till my competitors grow and I'll offer them game licensing for up to 10 years etc etc. That way I'm technically not really even the market directly and others have a chance to grow more easily. You could always offer azure as a service and bundle it with Xbox/Acti game licensing. Allow a small but fair cut of mtx in supported games. Etc etc. Instead of trying to lead the charge myself full bore. That way I'm not the biggest threat I'm Just the biggest supporter and can still make some money on the back end that I can use to find further game development for my newly acquired bajillion studios.

MS didn't become a trillion dollar company by operating like that.
Becoming N1 means more customers and more money.

 

[feynoob]

World is truly unfair.

Microsoft’s market cap hits all time high of $2.6 trillion - OnMSFT.com

Yesterday, Microsoft’s stock price hit an all-time high of $2.59 trillion. The substantial change can be attributed to the company’s investment in ChatGPT parent OpenAI and commitment to generative AI and its deployment across its services and products. The company’s shares closed up 3.2% at...

www.onmsft.com

2.6 trillion dollar is a lot of money.

 

[feynoob]

Off topic, but this is crazy. A bright green light from Jupiter.

 

[splattered]

Off topic, but this is crazy. A bright green light from Jupiter.

Starfield Marketing starting to ramp up i see.... XBOX Starfield Gaming Station on Jupiter - All 2023 Xbox Fan Fest members are automatically entered into a raffle - x50 seats available for a free space flight to Jupiter to get your hands on zero gravity Starfield before release date! You heard it here first folks.

 

[feynoob]

Starfield Marketing starting to ramp up i see.... XBOX Starfield Gaming Station on Jupiter - All 2023 Xbox Fan Fest members are automatically entered into a raffle - x50 seats available for a free space flight to Jupiter to get your hands on zero gravity Starfield before release date! You heard it here first folks.

If I get to play starfield on space, sign me up.

 

[PaintTinJr]

So. if you are FTC and you are trying to fragment a gaming market market to inflate Microsoft's position in said market (high-performance console market) and their position in that market is main reason to block a merger, you are using court case that literally said that X company (Brown) and Y company (Kinney) are part of same market despite the fact that X company is making medium priced shoes and Y company is making low priced shoes?

Please, continue. I'm sure that argument would be successful in front of federal judge.

My answer is already in what you quoted.

 

[mckmas8808]

I dont understand the whole mess. So the FTC, who is supposed to be about competitive markets, is ok with Sony maintaining 70% market share? How exactly does Sony ending up with 80% market share protect consumers?

Plus they expect MS to buy studios in an attempt to compete and have exclusives (the key to selling consoles) but then not make the games exclusive? What a bunch of bs.

Why are you excusing away why MS has done so poorly in the video game's space. Plus...................

It's only 70% if you act like Nintendo doesn't exist. Many of your Xbox fanboys seem to always exclude Nintendo when you talk about market share. I wonder why?.....

 

[Bernardougf]

Yep. EU and even CMA hand-waived the foreclosing aspect of the acquisition through without any worry.

Not sure why some folks are clinging on to that already.

Man.. darkmage just liked this post.. is just bad juju at this point

 

[feynoob]

Man.. darkmage just liked this post.. is just bad juju at this point