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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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ulantan
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That's not the same because Microsoft is good and kind unlike Sony. Those games side with Xbox because it's the righteous path unlike Sony who pay Money to take games away...or something.
DeepEnigma
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StreetsofBeige
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No they dont. Sony even states in their earnings reports the gaming division does around $2 billion profit. And that's after all expenses and costs are involved. And the company does around $9 billion profit total.
There's a difference between high profits and margin, and sinking profits back into the business. Now if Sony said their gaming division had net sales of $2 billion and profit of $0 then that would mean every dime of net sales they make on selling stuff went right back into R&D and overhead.
dibella360
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The Microsoft lawyer is putting me to sleep. This is a direct inverse for the CMA courts.
Shambala
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At least here both sides can argue. Over there you’ll get banned for having a different opinion
Thirty7ven
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As expected this hearing is a bunch of bullshit. The only thing that should be on the table is whether or not MS has an incentive to close before the hearings, and bypass regulatory scrutiny.
MS and ABK have known for many months and they could've settled a new date. This whole merger has been fast tracked.
MS and ABK have known for many months and they could've settled a new date. This whole merger has been fast tracked.
tmlDan
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sounds like he is reassuring his own employees, that's all
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Jimbo acknowledged himself that he expected to see CoD on PS platforms for many years to come.
There goes the foreclosure argument.
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DeepEnigma
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Just a "thought experiment."
ZehDon
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Calverz
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He has lost all credibility on this merger now. Well done Jimbo!
Thirty7ven
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Oh look, MS showing privileged docs of course.
DeepEnigma
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How? That was January 2022, long before the deal offer battles.
Read the date. The deal offers then came in after which the stipulations that MS don't want public but are being leaked about 100% op out clause.
tmlDan
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Can you explain that? if you read the email, it's obvious he emailed employees who were worried. If your CEO came out and said we're done, I give up, would you trust him/her?
Thirty7ven
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Are they going to talk about what happened for Jimbo to change his mind?
Is it because when talk was over and a contract had to be signed the written words didn’t match the bs MS spewed during the meeting?
Is it because when talk was over and a contract had to be signed the written words didn’t match the bs MS spewed during the meeting?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I won't go as far as to say 'lost all credibility' but this is certainly an important update we didn't know about before.
jm89
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I mean we only need to see everything jim and sony lawyers said this year to the CMA that they actually are concerned.
Even going to provide a rebuttal to the CMA updated PF of why the MS contracts are problematic.
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Banjo64
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Thirty7ven
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Convenient to forget it’s pre contract talks.
Convenient to forget MS doesn’t want to talk about what happened during those contract talks.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Based on what I've read in the cliff notes, their entire opening argument was about foreclosure.
LordCBH
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Considering their favorite thing yesterday was “that email was from 2019, it doesn’t count,” they should really keep quiet lol
DeepEnigma
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Precisely. Was going by Phil's public words, until Phil started bullshitting to the public about private meetings after that email, which caused Jim Ryan to go public and reveal the "3 year deal" shit.
Don't go all gamer amnesia now.
Real talk.
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Kilau
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Well convenient that neither Jim nor MS stipulate what version of COD will come to PS. Do the FTC even know Warzone is a thing?
Thirty7ven
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Hypocrites have no shame.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
This email they showed in the hearing is after the acquisition being announced and Jim is talking about talking to MS and Activision. It is not a nebulous email sent years before the acquisition.
Talk about drawing false equivalencies.
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NickFire
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Jim telling employees not to panic because he is pretty sure COD will remain for many years when it first happened does not sink the FTC's case.
On a different topic though, I'm wondering what is up with the CMA process. MS sounds like they intend to close without question if the injunction is denied. Can't help but wonder if they pulled the necessary strings in the UK already. Or if they really would pull out of the UK. These hearings would be a lot of dirty laundry getting aired for no reason if they give a crap about the CMA decision.
DeepEnigma
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It was before the contract talks and based on Spencer's public remarks prior to said talks.
My fuck, do we have to go and bring receipts, again, for the timeline for you intellectually dishonest clowns?
LordCBH
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“This email showing why they want acquisitions doesn’t count cause it’s from 2019, but this email from before the contract talks counts because I said so” basically.
DeepEnigma
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Some of them truly are this pathetic. In less than 24 hours as well.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You can bring the receipts if you want, but the fact is this is communique after the acquisition was announced and Jim specifically talked to both MS and Activision before saying that he expects CoD on PS for many years to come.
This is not something Kaz Hirai sent to Shawn Layden in 2019 talking about destroying the competition lol.
Comparing this with the Booty email is false equivalency.
Feel free to reply with a gif or "ok" as needed
Did the 2019 email talk about specific acquisitions ?
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DeepEnigma
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It won't matter. You have shown to have no dignity the past 24 hours. You tucked you little tail and ran out of that other email thread.You can bring the receipts if you want, but the fact is this is communique after the acquisition was announced and Jim specifically talked to both MS and Activision before saying that he expects CoD on PS for many years to come.
This is not something Kaz Hirai sent to Shawn Layden in 2019 talking about destroying the competition lol.
Comparing this with the Booty email is false equivalency.
Feel free to reply with a gif or "ok" as needed
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Astray
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They didn't plan on having to contend with an injunction request at this timing.
Remember that their original plan was to get approvals from everywhere else 1st, then close over the FTC.
CMA blocking the merger threw a wrench into that.
LordCBH
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Dick Jones
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There is a reason why he had that tag.
As an aside, I'd tone down the last sentence as I'm sure someone will report you and look for a threadban at least
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DeaDPo0L84
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My only opinion on this is I don't see how anyone can be remotely excited at the thought of Microsoft controlling the largest publisher in gaming seeing how they have mismanaged their own studios for years. It's not a "Xbox is lame" mentality, they are just simply terrible at this videogame thing and have proven that money does not indeed buy success. All this money could be spent building up talent for existing studios but that takes time and patience, also leadership which they seem to be lacking.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
First, relax and simmer down.
Second, it is false equivalency because you're drawing a parallel between a non-specific email sent in 2019 with an email very specifically sent after this acquisition that the hearing is about being announced, directly naming all 3 key parties.
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NickFire
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The Jim email is fair game if admitted into evidence (opening arguments not evidence). It will not be dispositive, as the FTC would be allowed to provide more context and evidence why they disagreed with Jim's thoughts (and/or why Jim would change his thoughts). But if would be fair game and something the judge can consider. It may even genuinely hurt the FTC case.You can bring the receipts if you want, but the fact is this is communique after the acquisition was announced and Jim specifically talked to both MS and Activision before saying that he expects CoD on PS for many years to come.
This is not something Kaz Hirai sent to Shawn Layden in 2019 talking about destroying the competition lol.
Comparing this with the Booty email is false equivalency.
Feel free to reply with a gif or "ok" as needed
Did the 2019 email talk about specific acquisitions ?
But damn dude. After MS comes out and non-denies the 2019 email allegation by calling it a thought experiment, you still feel like its an issue you can dunk on people with? That's nuts unless you're getting your free gamepass by posting like you do.
DeepEnigma
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First of all, we are making jokes about the other thread.
Second, this was the email long before the negotiations even happened,
Timelines are key. This is not the "smoking gun" one thinks it is.
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