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[feynoob]

Really showing their ass, eh?

Spoiler: Yes they do

 

[adamsapple]

You think if Microsoft want to call witnesses to testify based on certain evidence that the FTC should ‘get bent’ rather than get to see the evidence themselves first hand?

Interesting.

No, they should get bent because Derek's previous tweet when he was live tweeting said that 'they don't want it because they don't understand specific parts of it'.

Them not understanding is not a basis for them having issues with potential testimony.

 

[Banjo64]

No, they should get bent because Derek's previous tweet when he was live tweeting said that 'they don't want it because they don't understand specific parts of it'.

Them not understanding is not a basis for them having issues with potential testimony.

Ok, makes more sense than what you quoted previously but sounds like typical wrangling to me. The CMA also told the CAT judge that if Microsoft want to start introducing witnesses the procedure will be slowed down, which I presumed would be because they’d need time to analyse what is being said and what the sources of information are behind it.

 

[adamsapple]

Ok, makes more sense than what you quoted previously but sounds like typical wrangling to me. The CMA also told the CAT judge that if Microsoft want to start introducing witnesses the procedure will be slowed down, which I presumed would be because they’d need time to analyse what is being said and what the sources of information are behind it.

I think I quoted the wrong Derek tweet in my first post. That's on me.

 

[Topher]

Them not understanding is not a basis for them having issues with potential testimony.

How do you know?

 

[DeepEnigma]

How do you know?

Not like MS doesn't have a history of being very convoluted.

 

[adamsapple]

Not like MS doesn't have a history of being very convoluted.

The judge didn't make a ruling on that point one way or the other anyway, and it sounds like FTC didn't raise any issue about it a day before today either.

Microsoft's lawyer Beth Wilkinson explained that the FTC did not raise the issue of Microsoft having asserted privilege over some of those documents until yesterday.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

nikolino840

Jacqueline Scott Corley

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

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At the moment both Democrats and Republicans want to get Big Tech. For different reasons sure, but their desired outcomes are the same. So really the political leanings won't matter much here.

However having a son who works for Microsoft, this is the Hunter Biden of video games I guess. How very mysterious that MS offers her son a job at this very coincidental point in time. I'm sure his salary was very generous too. And the more he can influence his mom, the more his salary goes up...

 

[DeepEnigma]

The judge didn't make a ruling on that point one way or the other anyway, and it sounds like FTC didn't raise any issue about it a day before today either.

Were they known about in advance?

 

[ZehDon]

... Them not understanding is not a basis for them having issues with potential testimony.

I think it is absolutely grounds for them having issues with the testimony. If someone wants to talk about "X and Y and Z" being the foundation for reason(s) that the FTC shouldn't block the merger, the FTC needs to understand those points in full to make a proper decision. I don't think anyone wants a legal system making rulings using information it doesn't understand. If the EC was happy with the remedies because it saw documents A and B and contract C, and Microsoft wants to use the EC's decision to convince the FTC, I think it's entirely fair that they should produce documents A and B and contract C and then draw out the EC's reasoning in crayon for the FTC. I don't really see why this is an issue, unless the FTC's lack of understanding is desired to push them toward ruling one way over another?

 

[adamsapple]

Were they known about in advance?

I would imagine there would be some cross-communication between the involved parties about acceptable documents and who will be testifying or doing dispositions beforehand. I can't imagine all of this is sprung up on the day-of.

I think it is absolutely grounds for them having issues with the testimony. If someone wants to talk about "X and Y and Z" being the foundation for reason(s) that the FTC shouldn't block the merger, the FTC needs to understand those points in full to make a proper decision. I don't think anyone wants a legal system making rulings using information it doesn't understand. If the EC was happy with the remedies because it saw documents A and B and contract C, and Microsoft wants to use the EC's decision to convince the FTC, I think it's entirely fair that they should produce documents A and B and contract C and then draw out the EC's reasoning in crayon for the FTC. I don't really see why this is an issue, unless the FTC's lack of understanding is desired to push them toward ruling one way over another?

True, true.

 

[Pelta88]

I called it.

They are prepping Bond if this deal fails.

 

[LordCBH]

Spoiler: Yes they do

Let this man cook.

 

[Varteras]

Spoiler: Yes they do

 

[demigod]

Good twist.

You’ve just been checkmated.

 

[feynoob]

You’ve just been checkmated.

Cant help when people cant read properly.

 

[Thirty7ven]

I called it.

They are prepping Bond if this deal fails.

Better hope Phil got another life left.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I called it.

They are prepping Bond if this deal fails.

if Phill didn't kill xbox, she will

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

algorithm :

 

[feynoob]

Better hope Phil got another life left.

if Phill didn't kill xbox, she will

As much as we hate phil, he is much better than her. She is corporate yes man like don mattrick.
Xbox aint going to move forward with her.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

As much as we hate phil, he is much better than her. She is corporate yes man like don mattrick.
Xbox aint going to move forward with her.

that is what i am saying. Phill at least has experience in videogames....or something.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I called it.

They are prepping Bond if this deal fails.

ESG rating +100 no matter what actual brilliance exists with their strategies

 

[Kilau]

As much as we hate phil, he is much better than her. She is corporate yes man like don mattrick.
Xbox aint going to move forward with her.

We won’t know until we see her shelf.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

You think if Microsoft want to call witnesses to testify based on certain evidence that the FTC should ‘get bent’ rather than get to see the evidence themselves first hand?

Interesting.

Lol.

Yeah, “evidence” apparently has no business in this clown show defense they’re running

 

[Kilau]

Lol.

Yeah, “evidence” apparently has no business in this clown show defense they’re running

 

[MasterCornholio]

After some deliberations with the mod team/admins, we will remove continued posts of Florian in this thread. Please find and utilize other sources of information.

Thank You.

Delete your post.

 

[nikolino840]

Do we have a another source for this? Confirmation that this was actually said?

 

[Sony]

We have a guy with Sony name, MS avatar and Nintendo tag. Yet simps for MS.
Shit is too funny.

It means that I simp for the merits, not for the company All along this merger, I haven't seen any substansive arguments against it other than "MS shouldn't get bigger".

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

It's not the gaming arm tho. Methinks just like with CMA guy links with Sony it's a total nothingburger.

 

[CuNi]

It means that I simp for the merits, not for the company All along this merger, I haven't seen any substansive arguments against it other than "MS shouldn't get bigger".

Nobody forbids you from rooting for it because of benefits to you. Hell, I'd be happy too if those games would get added to my GP PC subscription that I pay.

But you cannot just dismiss the single biggest argument like it's some arbitrary point for the sake of having one.

 

[Thirty7ven]

MS going with the Believe You Me strategy

Probably Indiana Jones? They had a contract with Disney before the acquisition, probably almost surely it stipulates which platforms they were going to develop it for.

 

[dibella360]

What time does the pay-per-view match start today? Does anyone have a link?

 

[FUBARx89]

MS going with the Believe You Me strategy

Probably Indiana Jones? They had a contract with Disney before the acquisition, probably almost surely it stipulates which platforms they were going to develop it for.

MS going for the pity party on about Redfall.

"Plz judge. Look at this steaming turd we pumped out. It barely sold"

 

[Banjo64]

Redfall/Starfield are Xbox/PC-only: "keeping with the need to offer some exclusive content while mitigating the economic costs and damage to its player-focused brand" - Redfall "generated minimal sales" - "many other" future ZeniMax titles will be shipped on PS/Nintendo

Laughable.

 

[ulantan]

Redfall/Starfield are Xbox/PC-only: "keeping with the need to offer some exclusive content while mitigating the economic costs and damage to its player-focused brand" - Redfall "generated minimal sales" - "many other" future ZeniMax titles will be shipped on PS/Nintendo

Laughable.

"May we see these titles?"

"No"

 

[Sony]

But you cannot just dismiss the single biggest argument like it's some arbitrary point for the sake of having one.

Which is?

 

[graywolf323]

Redfall/Starfield are Xbox/PC-only: "keeping with the need to offer some exclusive content while mitigating the economic costs and damage to its player-focused brand" - Redfall "generated minimal sales" - "many other" future ZeniMax titles will be shipped on PS/Nintendo

Laughable.

remember COD is too ‘big’ for Xbox to take exclusive yet somehow Elder Scrolls isn’t but other ‘smaller’ stuff is definitely going to not be exclusive Microsoft’s even willing to pinky promise

 

[jm89]

 

[Calverz]

remember COD is too ‘big’ for Xbox to take exclusive yet somehow Elder Scrolls isn’t but other ‘smaller’ stuff is definitely going to not be exclusive Microsoft’s even willing to pinky promise

Smaller stuff like Quake remastered? Which released on everything after that acquisition went through?

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[graywolf323]

Smaller stuff like Quake remastered? Which released on everything after that acquisition went through?

it released in August just mere months after the acquisition was completed, likely it was too far along for them to cancel unlike everything since then

or else why did smaller stuff like Hi-Fi Rush not get released even on Switch which seems perfect for it? and we know they actually canceled Redfall for PS5 despite it being an online co-op focused game which could have benefitted from a larger install base

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Not sure if tweets from tom warren are allowed or not in this OT, but he tweeted this.

 

[graywolf323]

Not sure if tweets from tom warren are allowed or not in this OT, but he tweeted this.

gotta love how Microsoft’s approach has basically been “we completely failed these past 20+ years so please let us now try to buy up the industry to make up for our inability to compete otherwise”

 

[DeepEnigma]

Not sure if tweets from tom warren are allowed or not in this OT, but he tweeted this.

Which is exactly why a company that fails, should be allowed to buy up the industry by leveraging its OSopoly might.

 

[Dick Jones]

Not sure if tweets from tom warren are allowed or not in this OT, but he tweeted this.

Tom's a shill but not a psychopath like Florian. Tom's tweets are fine, just keep away from FossPatents.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Tom's a shill but not a psychopath like Florian. Tom's tweets are fine, just keep away from FossPatents.

I have that dumbass blocked on twitter so no worries there.

 

[Kilau]

Not sure if tweets from tom warren are allowed or not in this OT, but he tweeted this.

Why is any of this relevant for a (sorry, preliminary) injunction hearing? These things can be argued argued at the already scheduled FTC hearing.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Why is any of this relevant for a temporary injunction hearing? These things can be argued argued at the already scheduled FTC hearing.

Obfuscate obfuscate obfuscate

#CurrentYear
#VictimhoodCurrency

 

[Dick Jones]

Why is any of this relevant for a temporary injunction hearing? These things can be argued argued at the already scheduled FTC hearing.

It's the classic making yourself seem pathetic "Your penis is so big...wow....my penis so small, so small" line

A photo of Aaron Greenberg and a couple of his classic tweets would have the same effect.

 

[tmlDan]

Not sure if tweets from tom warren are allowed or not in this OT, but he tweeted this.

pretty sure they beat out nintendo in revenue so thats a blatant lie unless they're just comparing console sales which means nothing in this day and age and their overall strategy