Shin-Ra
Junior Member
You're either misinformed or trying to misinform others.
Microsoft also shut down departments dedicated to bringing Xbox games to physical retail
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Del_X
Member
I figured that too but realized early that I'd be better off just spending more time on PC if I wanted something different than "game about generational trauma with some gameplay" games.
bitbydeath
Member
Tom has said it's still the plan and these moves back it up.
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Red-Dead-Ocelot
Neo Member
Your misinformed pal. Look at the digital numbers. Are you dumb? Alot of games people buy physical are just a key, and then you have to download the game regardless.
reinking
Gold Member
The most destructive company that has come along in the console space has been Microsoft. It started when they brought us pay-to-play multiplayer online and continues with their current goal to remove ownership/control from the consumers. I am not saying everything they have done is bad but they are not the saviors of the console industry. I have said it before, both Sony and Nintendo have been around before Microsoft and both were innovative and price conscious during that time.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
"Alot of games" so you're just making your own figures up.
Red-Dead-Ocelot
Neo Member
a quick google search will show you. I'm done with you. Such a tool bag. Ughh.
It's been shown here before from people in the know that this is going to involve Sony also.
I work for Walmart. Our stores are saying what that Wario64 account did… By the end of the year, there won't be any physical games in our store except for maybe a shelf with a few of the big releases if that.
Has anyone walked into a Walmart and looked at the gaming sections now? There is hardly anything there anymore and it's a bunch of download cards. If Walmart who is the biggest retailer is doing something like this, it's probably going to happen most everywhere.
Look I have no dog in this fight, I think video games are complete arse nowadays and neither Sony or Microsoft offers much in the way of anything original anymore and I don't like all digital either but how stupid do some of you have to be that you think Sony cares so much about you that literally nothing will be on a disc anymore but they are going to continue to ship discs to stores that about 20% of gamers are out there buying. Discs are dead in every form of media. There are comments in here saying Sony witless make discs for games for at least 2 more gens lol. Discs are dead this is the last gen you will see them.
You can say what you want but this is exactly what they all want. Buy their games from their stores and no second hand sales. Don't worry though it's always the worst thing ever here when Microsoft does it but it will be OK when Sony follows suit. Just like the years of ripping having to pay for Xbox live, then Sony followed suit.. Guess what? You still went and shelled out the money. You can say whatever you want but no matter if they go all digital, you will still be there buying games.
Giallo Corsa
Member
Have all of the Avengers® ensembled yet ? I've only seen a couple so far...
Also : Sony, Nintendo and PC too®, amirite ?
Also : Sony, Nintendo and PC too®, amirite ?
Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
They can learn eventually. Not my job to convince people here. I've been buying everything digitally on deep sales for 3 years for this reason. Their loss.
Mr Moose
Member
Are you using PC and mobile in your digital equation?
Gambit2483
Member
If it's anything like PS5 it saves a resume state for like the last 3-4 games that you exited out but didn't close. It doesn't matter if the game was disc or digital based
rampant piracy led to miserable DRM on disc-based games, and then Gabe Newell gained control of the digital distribution market and happens to be a good game that cares about the medium and wants happy customers
the first is you not understand how the digital numbers are reached, the cesa white paper and Sonys leaks show physical games make up the majority of major new releases, only games like cod and fifa are mostly digital at launch , the hurr durr 90% digital includes pc and mobile which are 100% digital, microtransactions, and subscriptions, , and when sony reports about 70% digital is because it includes the entire catalog, not just new releases. there are only like 200 games at retail at any given time whereas there are thousands of digital titles available and while sony receives 100% of digital sales dollars, they only receive about 80% of the sales dollars
and the second is a straight-up falsehood, https://www.doesitplay.org/
why do you compulsively lie when you can be demonstrated to be wrong?
Mortisfacio
Member
Physical Games Represented Just 4% of Sales for PlayStation Last Quarter
The only category down year-on-year
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Even just Sony alone, the physical market is dwindling. All data shows this. Not sure why this is controversial.
Hawking Radiation
Wants to watch an Event Horizon porno
He doesn't have any equations, he reads headlines and no further reading
ah another one, that's hardware+dlc+accessories+subscriptions+digital games vs just physical gamesPhysical Games Represented Just 4% of Sales for PlayStation Last Quarter
The only category down year-on-year
Even just Sony alone, the physical market is dwindling. All data shows this. Not sure why this is controversial.
Mr Moose
Member
I don't think that's saying what you think it is.Physical Games Represented Just 4% of Sales for PlayStation Last Quarter
The only category down year-on-year
Even just Sony alone, the physical market is dwindling. All data shows this. Not sure why this is controversial.
Mortisfacio
Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You can, works just like on digital games. Use it all the time.
It's essentially keeping a saved state of the game in memory, so as long as it can check that the disc is still in the tray, it'll work as intended. If you take the disc out in the interim, then you get kicked out to the dashboard if you attempt to quick resume that game.
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I can , you can't you see a few points that get your fins slapping together and think your an expert.
RickMasters
Member
Wait… they actually had such a department? 
Banjo64
cumsessed
Whenever there's bad Xbox news you can always rely on accounts showing up to defend Xbox that have 25 posts in 12 months.
It's such a crazy coincidental phenomenon that only applies to the Xbox platform in my experience.
Wild.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
Mr Moose
Member
Luigi Mario
Member
These are the numbers for physical releases on PS4 and PS5:
So, only around 12% of PS4 and PS5 games require a download.
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magnumpy
Member
that's just it, there really is no viable 3rd company. perhaps Meta? a reinvigorated Sega? *shudder* cell phones?
dottme
Member
I loved it. Simple and quick.That sketch was briljant...does it still hurts you.?
It was straight to the point even if it was probably done in one hour.
FunkMiller
Banned
that's just it, there really is no viable 3rd company. perhaps Meta? a reinvigorated Sega? *shudder* cell phones?
The only thing I can see is Valve taking a crack again. The Deck has shown they can produce a console. Maybe it's time for the Steam machine at last.
not only that but physical third-party games are only Sony's royalty, so only a small portion of the game's value, whereas digital includes 100% of the digital game value, Sony then pays out from that (part of the reason sony's net profits seem so small is that all third party digital is part of their gross).
these notes are pulled from sony's fiscal reports
2 Physical Software is revenue from first party game software for PlayStation® consoles sold on discs to retailers, royalties from third partysoftware sold on discs and revenue from first and third party game software sold bundled with PlayStation® consoles and PlayStation®VR.3 From Q2 FY22, Physical Software has been reclassified to include revenue from first and third party game software sold bundled withPlayStation® consoles and PlayStation®VR, part of which was previously included in Hardware. Figures for Hardware and Physical Software forQ1 FY22 have been restated in accordance with this change. Because the impact of this reclassification on the figures disclosed prior to Q1FY22 is immaterial, such figures have not been restated.4 Digital Software is revenue from full game downloads of both first and third party titles sold via the PlayStation™Store
So Sony only counts a fraction of 70-80% of their physical sales as revenue, but all of their digital sales as revenue
//DEVIL//
Member
Right .. because Sony wasn't heading that way it self with the additional PS2 hard drive and modem combo that was released with FF11. that bay on the PS2 was there before Xbox was even announced or even existed.
the Difference is, MS was leading the technology while Sony was riding the wave in silence letting MS getting all the flame on its face like idiots.
Did you forget what the PS2 was called ? Sony computer entertainment system !! They were heading the same direction MS was. they just saw MS eating shit so they stopped.
Even during the PS4 release, Sony was always trying to let MS go first and then ride the wave, IF MS didn't get crushed by the media during the Xbox one reveal, they wouldn't have made that video where they show how used games are going to be shared with friends etc mocking the Xbox.
Hell.. you can tell even back then from that PPP they did show during E3. the slides were made in 2 minutes lol.
Not saying MS is all rainbow and shit. but MS is far from being the most destructive. Because if they were destructive like you have said, they would be the market leader by now and Sony is selling lemon juice stands.
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Kings Field
Banned
shame because I love mostly everything about Xbox besides the games. The UI, party system, etc is superior to PS but games are underwhelming and that's what matters.
reinking
Gold Member
You realize even after MS was charging for multiplayer online play Sony kept that part of PSN free for a long time? It was only after they saw we console players were dumb enough to keep paying for it that they started charging. So yes, PSN was coming even before MS, but there is zero proof the charge to play multiplayer games online was. Bring some proof instead of #SonyToo.
twilo99
Member
I call those the plastic collector core
StereoVsn
Gold Member
I think overall it was near even split. So the move to all digital is basically going to annoy and/or piss off at least a decent portion of their user base.
And also, PS5 is selling over 50% physical for their bigger first party games according to Insomniac leak. So physical is still very important to Sony. Not to mention a lot of regions have even higher preference for physical, ie Japan and rest of Asia.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Awesome week for MS/Xbox. Brigh, bright future indeed.
SpecialAgentZ
Member
Maybe because on Xbox, you can only buy from Xbox Store;
On Playstation you can only buy from Playstation Store;
But on PC, you can buy from Microsoft Store, Steam, GOG, EA, Ubi, G2A, Epic and whatever store comes next. And if the competition isn't enough, they have to outrun the benefits of piracy to keep the pikes from hitting them where the sun doesn't reach.
The stores doesn't OWN your platform on PC like they do on consoles/mobile.
reinking
Gold Member
Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
Even if the optimists win out and Sony somehow offers discs next gen, do you honestly want them? No one thinks they will have physical 2 gens from now. What you're saying is you're going to have to rebuy everything you buy next gen to carry it forward.
twilo99
Member
I still like Physical media. The only time I prefer digital is for VR stuff.
Of course, I think from a console gamer's perspective this makes sense, but I've been a PC gamer my whole life and the last time I had a need for a CD/DVD-ROM inside my tower was… eons ago lol so digital makes perfect sense to me
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Klayzer
Member
Kick rocks with your Sonytoo bullshit.
Klayzer
Member
Like clockwork.
Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
Geez, I must have hit a nerve lol. If I'm so wrong you have nothing to worry about.
reinking
Gold Member
I am a PC gamer too. Funny enough, I thought about pulling out some old discs a few weeks ago and realized I do not have a CD/DVD drive in my current PC.
